What is the Catholic view of Judaism?

[Kaninchen]

Okay now I totally understand that we see the scripture differently. That is not my argument. I mean if we saw them the same we would be the same faith

Now lets go somewhere else for a moment. Do you feel the Torah can be proved through History or can only be proved by faith?

Now we do agree that we share these scriptures which are MY point. Now interpretation is again something completely different. But to say that we do accept certain scripture as the word of God would not be wrong, Correct?

I don’t know where you think you’re going with this rinnie but it sounds like “déjà vu, all over again” to me.

 

[rinnie]

I don’t know where you think you’re going with this rinnie but it sounds like “déjà vu, all over again” to me.

K why is it every time I ask you something you always accuse me of this wheel goes round and round…

All I am asking you is a simple question. If your faith totally based In your Opinion on Faith or do you feel you can prove History also?

I said as you can see that I believe we have History and Reason thats all. And faith has nothing to do with History and Reason. Faith is rather I accept history and reason thats all.

But I swear this really has nothing to do with your faith in general, I am only asking your opinion do you feel you have both. Honest no big deal here. It has nothing to do with what we both believe as far as Interpretation.

 

[rinnie]

I don’t know where you think you’re going with this rinnie but it sounds like “déjà vu, all over again” to me.

Why is it K ever time we talk I get the feeling you think I am always trying to catch you in a trap or something. I am really a nice person K. You would like me if you met me. If you and I were neighbors I WOULD BE YOUR FAVORITE

 

[Kaninchen]

K why is it every time I ask you something you always accuse me of this wheel goes round and round…

All I am asking you is a simple question. If your faith totally based In your Opinion on Faith or do you feel you can prove History also?

I said as you can see that I believe we have History and Reason thats all. And faith has nothing to do with History and Reason. Faith is rather I accept history and reason thats all.

But I swear this really has nothing to do with your faith in general, I am only asking your opinion do you feel you have both. Honest no big deal here. It has nothing to do with what we both believe as far as Interpretation.

Well, you see, you could deduce that somebody who is religious has ‘faith’ quite easily so there’s inevitably a suspicion that we’re on the road to another futile attempt at conversion.

 

[agent_grey]

Thats like asking what a fan of return of the jedi thinks about about a fan of the empire strikes back.

 

[KathleenGee]

Copperblade,

Appreciate your analysis…Yes, the Nazarene or Christian Jews tended to evolve separately from the Gentiles, which the latter began to expand rapidly. In time, the Jewish Christian community became even more overshadowed by the inculturation of Christianity into many cultures.

Now there is a beginning movement to restore our Jewish roots; Jewish Catholics that I encounter not only want us to, but they need us to study our roots, and build a bridge between us. This was also a desire of John Paul II…

 

[copperblade]

Copperblade,

Appreciate your analysis…Yes, the Nazarene or Christian Jews tended to evolve separately from the Gentiles, which the latter began to expand rapidly. In time, the Jewish Christian community became even more overshadowed by the inculturation of Christianity into many cultures.

Now there is a beginning movement to restore our Jewish roots; Jewish Catholics that I encounter not only want us to, but they need us to study our roots, and build a bridge between us. This was also a desire of John Paul II…

Thanks. I don’t really know anything about Jewish Catholics. Do they follow all or most of the old covenant law? I’ve always seen the Church as being composed mostly of gentiles and therefore not subject to Jewish law, but only subject to Christ’s laws in that He made allowance for the gentiles.

If someone Jewish became Catholic, would it be optional for them to keep Kosher?

 

[KathleenGee]

Hi Copperblade,

Check out www.hebrewcatholic.org. They are Jews who are now more fulfilled as Jews in the Catholic Church than before…also Roy Schoeman’s, www.salvationisfromthejews.com.

Roy said he felt more Jewish as a Catholic than before…the Hebrew Catholics are based in St. Louis, Missouri within the Archdiocese, under jurisdiction of the local bishop. David Moss is head.

There is a Catholic Jewish brother who was on EWTN a few weeks ago…he was so adamant that we understand our Jewish roots…they want us to do our part in this unification by studying our Jewish roots…

Tom Nash’s, ‘Biblical Roots of the Mass’ is excellent…the Hebrew Catholics follow their ancient calendar…they are seeing now many references in the Old Testament to the Church…they have a series on Israel and the Church. I find their explanation of my Catholic faith so deep because they are speaking from their cultural heritage of the Bible…so I am relearning my Scriptures – and now ecclesiology of all things – by Hebrew Catholics…I Love them!!!

One of my clients is a humanist Jew…they do not believe in God…but I have gleaned through their literature…and already see the working of Christ as True God and True Man inspiring their belief in the goodness of mankind…

 

[1holycatholic]

It is certainly true that Jews are not monolithic, and neither are Catholics on certain doctrines. But on basic dogma all Jews are united (as are all Catholics). There are thirteen articles of faith in Judaism, and incidentally the belief in the coming of the Messiah, while not exactly optional, is not accepted by all Jews. Judging by your response to another poster and your young age, I can’t help but think you have had a turbulent spiritual life: Protestantism, Catholic heritage, atheism, and now Judaism. Again, study Judaism, but also learn more about Catholicism and Christianity in general, before you make up your mind.

That’s not right. There is only one set of doctrines and dogmas that are to be held by all Catholics. Catholicism isn’t a basic package with options, it is an all or nothing package deal - you either believe all of what the Church teaches or you dissent in some way.