What is the difference between Eastern Catholicism and Traditional Catholicism?

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As a newcomer to the Catholic faith, what should I know about the difference between these two? Are there any specific differences that would allow for me to identify my faith more closely with one than the other? I apologize if this question has been brought up before, as I am sure it has, but I haven’t been able to find a particularly clear answer. :confused:
Any information, help or advice would be great! Thanks everyone 🙂
 
As a newcomer to the Catholic faith, what should I know about the difference between these two? Are there any specific differences that would allow for me to identify my faith more closely with one than the other? I apologize if this question has been brought up before, as I am sure it has, but I haven’t been able to find a particularly clear answer. :confused:
Any information, help or advice would be great! Thanks everyone 🙂
My feeling is that often the difference is cultural. You are more likely to be an Eastern rite Catholic if you were born in Greece, of if your parents are Eastern rite or if you first discovered the faith in an Eastern rite Church.

You might also be attracted to another rite because you find their liturgy to be more inspiring.
 
As a newcomer to the Catholic faith, what should I know about the difference between these two? Are there any specific differences that would allow for me to identify my faith more closely with one than the other? I apologize if this question has been brought up before, as I am sure it has, but I haven’t been able to find a particularly clear answer. :confused:
Any information, help or advice would be great! Thanks everyone 🙂
IMHO, the Eastern rite is more mystical, the Western are more rational. If I were to pick today, I’d go Eastern. If I were to pick when I was 20, I would have gone Western. Kinda moot though - there aren’t any Eastern Catholic parishes near me, and I was born into a Latin rite family.

There are lots of differences in form - how communion is recieved, etc. Go check out a Mass of each, and see what you think would be most helpful to you. One downside to Eastern is you’ll end up having to go to Western a lot anyway if you travel much (at least in the US).
 
Eastern Catholic churches are autonomous Churches with their main population centres and places of origin in the Middle East and around the Mediterranean. They are in full communion with Rome (they recognize the Pope as the head of the Christian Church) but autonomous (they appoint most of their own clergy). Also, celibacy for Priests is optional (but not for Bishops). There are also slight differences in some practices (such as giving the Eucharist in a spoon, and making the sign of the cross from right to left). Overall, however, their liturgy and beliefs are 99% the same as Latin Rite (regular) Catholics and the Church views them as Faithful Catholics in good standing. Examples are Maronites (Lebanese Catholics), Chaldeans and Syriacs (Iraq and Syria), Byzantine Catholics and Melkites (Greek Catholics).

Traditionalist Catholics are Latin rite Catholics who maintain many traditions and practices that were either dropped or relaxed by the Church after the 2nd Vatican Council (such as a Latin Mass instead of the Vernacular, abstaining from meat on all Fridays instead of just Lent and Good Friday, use of the Challoner Bible instead of other more recent translations, and continued observance and Mass attendance on Holy days that are no longer considered mandatory by the Church).

Most Traditionalists are viewed as Faithful Catholics in good standing. However, there are exceptions such as the Society of St. Pius X and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (who reject Vatican II entirely) and so called Sedevaticanists (who view all recent Popes as illegitimate) who are viewed by the Church, at best, as being in impaired communion (I think that’s the right word) and at worst as Schismatics.
 
The term “Traditional Catholicism” is usually used to mean Western Catholicism as it was prior to the 1960’s, whether in a reconstructionist sense or simply in the sense of preference those aspects of Western Catholic practice which have been preserved, at least as options, from that time.

Eastern Catholicism on the other hand is its own tradition, or rather several distinct traditions. Thus it is most proper to compare Eastern Catholicism to Western (aka “Latin rite” or simply “Latin”) Catholicism as a whole rather than with any sub-category some Latins may choose to make for themselves.

Fundamentally the difference arose mostly due to geographical separation over many centuries. The Church began in Jerusalem, geographically in the East but culturally in the Hebrew ecclesial culture which essentially did not continue into future centuries. From this Jewish starting point missionaries brought Christianity throughout the Greco-Roman and Indo-Iranian worlds, and beyond into places like Ethiopia. All of these far-flung communities were recipients of Apostolic Tradition, but probably thought and acted a little differently from the start. These differences tended to only increase as time went by, though of course there was plenty of cultural and intellectual exchange between different regions too. In some places a variety of factors caused some traditions to be mostly absorbed into another, such as the Gallican and insular Celtic traditions being largely absorbed into the Latin one (though leaving a mark on general Latin Catholicism; Gregorian Chant for instance probably bears strong traces of Gallican chant.)

Ultimately a situation has developed in which about 98% of Catholics (I suspect a somewhat smaller percentage of practicing Catholics who value orthodoxy, though I can’t prove that) belong to the Latin tradition that originated in Western and Central Europe and has since spread throughout the world. The rest of the Catholic Church is made up of other traditions, generally in their own self-governing Churches which are in communion with the Pope and therefore with the rest of the Catholic Church. Because these traditions originated east of Western and Central Europe, they are called the Eastern Churches or Eastern Traditions. Collectively they make Eastern Catholicism, though it must be emphasized that they consist of several different traditions. For instance an Armenian Catholic may or may not feel he has more in common with a Ukrainian Catholic than with a Latin Catholic.

It is tempting to caricaturize the different traditions, but this generally leads to misleading conclusions. For example it is often said that the East is more mystical and the West is more rational, but this ignores the powerful Western mystical tradition and the learned Eastern intellectual tradition. Also such comparisons can lead to misunderstandings and hurt feelings. For instance both Easterners and Westerners sometimes claim to be the tradition that puts greater focus on the incarnation. In fact any tradition that put less focus on the incarnation would be less Christian than the other, and so we should not imply this by claiming to be more “incarnational” than any other Catholic tradition.

As for where an individual Catholic stands, I personally would caution against changing from one tradition to another based on personally liking the other. Both, or all rather, of these ecclesial traditions are very deep and very culturally rooted. In general, I would uphold the principle that a person should stay within the tradition from which they received the Gospel. In the case of a Protestant (a member of a separated but still Western tradition) who is converted to Catholicism through contact with the Latin rite Church, the Latin rite Church is probably the home for him even if he grows into a great appreciation and love for the East and is influenced by it in his private spirituality. Same thing goes with an Eastern Catholic who grows to love Western art, the Rosary, etc.; the East will probably still be his best home.
 
They are all Catholic - one is not “Best,” even if you did see it first. It doesn’t make one better than another… 😊
 
Thanks for all of your answers 🙂 It really helps. As a person who comes from a Protestant family, but decided to join the Catholic Church based on where the Holy Spirit guided me, I don’t really have a “Catholic background” to go from as far as my family. My contact has been with the Traditional Catholic Church, and so I think that I will be sticking with it, even with having great respect and inspiration from the Eastern Church as well. 🙂
 
As a newcomer to the Catholic faith, what should I know about the difference between these two? Are there any specific differences that would allow for me to identify my faith more closely with one than the other? I apologize if this question has been brought up before, as I am sure it has, but I haven’t been able to find a particularly clear answer. :confused:
Any information, help or advice would be great! Thanks everyone 🙂
Labels like “Traditional Catholic” are defined by those who apply them to themselves. While may who attend the EF, (Latin Mass 1962 Missal) call themselves traditional or Traditionalists, there are those who attend the OF and consider themselves traditional.

As I see it, A Catholic of any approved rite of the Church, who holds to the dogmatic and moral teachings of the Church, avails themself to the graces of the Sacraments is traditional whatever rite he or she attends.

While some have claimed the superiority of one rite over the other, we must remember that the Mass or Divine Liturgy, and all the Sacraments are the work of Christ, the graces we recieve from baptism are the same graces that one recieves in any rite of the Church. The Holy Eucharist is not any more or less the real Jesus in one rite than in another. The limitless graces we can obtain at the Mass or Liturgy in any approved rite of the Church licitly offered by a priest who has faculties to offer the Mass, are the same and do not depend on the holiness of the individual priest, or if it is the Pope offering a Solemn Mass at St. Peter’s or a newly ordained priest who is offering a low mass in a village hut in the Missions.

Externals may differ, but those who are attached to any rite of the Church are equally Catholic.
 
My contact has been with the Traditional Catholic Church, and so I think that I will be sticking with it, even with having great respect and inspiration from the Eastern Church as well. 🙂
If by Traditional Catholic Church you are referring to the Latin Rite, (either Extraordinary Form, or the Ordinary Form of the Rite) vs Eastern Catholic Churches. They are both traditional, and both have ritual and spiritual traditions which go back to the Apostles. While most Catholics worship and derive their spiritual lives from one or the other rite, they are all of equal status, as they profess and uphold the same Catholic faith.
 
Indeed, it makes a lot more sense after looking into it more. I just hadn’t realized there was a “difference” other than language and certain traditions. I just noticed that on this forum there are two different sections, one titled “Traditional Catholicism”, and one titled “Eastern Catholicism.” this is the distinguishing factor that I was using for my question. I guess as a newcomer to the Catholic faith, I was confused by what sometimes seems like tension between the two forums. That is what caused me to wonder.
 
Hi Marshall, I would just like to add: you can only learn so much about any Church on an Internet forum. The best way to find out what an Eastern Catholic - or Traditional Catholic - or any other Catholic church is like is just to find a church that worships that way and go visit them. 🙂
 
Hi Marshall, I would just like to add: you can only learn so much about any Church on an Internet forum. The best way to find out what an Eastern Catholic - or Traditional Catholic - or any other Catholic church is like is just to find a church that worships that way and go visit them. 🙂
This.
 
Thanks for all of your answers 🙂 It really helps. As a person who comes from a Protestant family, but decided to join the Catholic Church based on where the Holy Spirit guided me, I don’t really have a “Catholic background” to go from as far as my family. My contact has been with the Traditional Catholic Church, and so I think that I will be sticking with it, even with having great respect and inspiration from the Eastern Church as well. 🙂
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Well said brother well said:thumbsup:👍

May the Holy Spirit continue to guide you.

God bless

jesus g
 
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