What is the difference between population control and birth control?

[Pag_Hingowa]

Intriguing news article from GMA News TV. gmanews.tv/story/232288/nation/enrile-labels-rh-bill-as-a-population-control-measure

Enrile labels RH bill as a population control measure
By KIMBERLY TAN, GMA News
09/13/2011 | 06:08 PM

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From the perspective of Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago, SB 2865’s principal author, the RH bill is nothing close to how Enrile pictured it.

“I actually denounce, at least for myself, deny and reject any implication that this is a population control bill, that this is meant to control the population of the poor among us or even of the idiots among us,” she said during the debate.

She likewise said that population control is different from birth control, which is being espoused by the RH bill.

“This is a bill that gives a woman the freedom to choose how to live her life,” she said.

Sen. Pia Cayetano, a c0-sponsor of the bill, said the measure does not even specify a number as the ideal size of family.

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I’m sure both are control measures, but what’s the difference between the two? I encourage everyone to read the full article for arguments.

 

[Dan_Daly]

Contraception is one means of population control. Abortion is another. Exterminating or sterilizing people after they are born are others.

Population control is under centralized control in some countries (like China) and under a relatively decentralized control in others (like the US). In either case, contraception is a type of population control.

If one doubts contraception advocates in the US weren’t seeking to eliminate “undesirable” elements of the population- the poor, the “feeble minded”, the mentally retarded, blacks, etc- they should read up on the Matriarch of the movement- Margaret Sanger.

Pax.

 

[St_Francis]

Population control is when government says it’s against people having babies and makes having children illegal or legally difficult.

Birth control are methods of reducing fertility in order to facilitate having the pleasure of sex without the potential responsibility.

Reproductive rights are when the government is against people having babies but doesn’t want to look bad so they propagandize people into voluntarily limiting their fertility, usually by having sex while using birth control. When the government sees that the secretly desired populatiin control is not occurring quickly enough, they will make artificial birth control easier to obtain, and sometimes even force it on young women in the guise of helping these women out.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

I was once in a seminar on future technology [in the 70’s] in which the presenter asked if we knew the most effective means of birth control. *

Inspired by the Spirit, I asked him whether he meant birth control or population control. He replied that they were the same thing.

So I told him, “Increased arms sales. Nothing like a lot of weapons to bring a population down.”

He sputtered for several minutes and never did get back to question. *

 

[St_Francis]

I was looking for something I had run across sometime ago which overtly stated the link between population control and reproductive health; I am still looking for it, but along the way I found a lot of information about this point. It is out there. I ran searches for social justice and abortion, sj and reproductive health/rights, and sj and birth control. A lot of the responses are the same. And there are sites which discuss it more from a Catholic point of view, and other sites which discuss it from a feminist point of view.

Humanae Vitae discusses the many harms to society attendent upon acceptance of abc, and just 5 years after its promulgation, the Pope’s prediction that abc would lead to abortion came through in the US.

Since the Pill first came out, the rate of illegitimate births has skyrocketed in the States, and once abortiin was legalized, abortion rates did too. And this is despite the increases in government aid for the poor introduced in the 60s and expanded ever since then, and despite the continual increases in sex education and access to birth control.

These phenomena have not been replicated in every Western nation. England and the US seem to have very high rates of teen pregnancy; Sweden has the highest abortion rate, and other nations seem to have much less trouble with oit-of-wedlock pregnancy and even teen sexual activity.

However, I suspect that in every country the situation has gotten worse, even if it’s not as bad in some countries.

Moreover, several of the articles I ran across discussed the ethnocentric nature of the issue, and how Western nations or the US pushed these policies on less developed nations for the benefit of the more developed nation and tto the detriment of the nation targeted.

I hope the Catholic hierarchy in the Phillipines is on top of this and working hard to educate people and to defeat this bill, and that the people of the Phillipines will reject this destructive change to their society.

 

[St_Francis]

I was once in a seminar on future technology [in the 70’s] in which the presenter asked if we knew the most effective means of birth control. *

Inspired by the Spirit, I asked him whether he meant birth control or population control. He replied that they were the same thing.

So I told him, “Increased arms sales. Nothing like a lot of weapons to bring a population down.”

He sputtered for several minutes and never did get back to question. *
Oh, good one!