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Rozellelily
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That seems like a succinct way to put it.
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I understand it to be letting others knkw about virtuous actions that a person does in a way that has no other motivation other then to let others know the person does them.
It can be about anything that is considered good or moral.
It’s interesting too, that companies do this, by aligning with a good cause for profit or reputation, without real care for the cause.
To me it’s like bragging, sort of.
It can be about anything that is considered good or moral.
It’s interesting too, that companies do this, by aligning with a good cause for profit or reputation, without real care for the cause.
To me it’s like bragging, sort of.
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0Scarlett_nidiyilii
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The essence of virtue signaling is that it’s about showing off.
Trying to “prove” you’re a good person to others by your likes and dislikes rather than actually doing anything about the problems in the world.
Trying to “prove” you’re a good person to others by your likes and dislikes rather than actually doing anything about the problems in the world.
blackforest
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It hasn’t happened to me, but I’d just keep things relevant: “I sorry you feel that I’m virtue signaling. Would you like to address my point about X?”
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1Lord1Faith
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People used to use the word sanctimony. I think virtue signaling means the same thing.
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TheLittleLady
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Christ taught us the difference:
Matthew, chapter 6
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“[But] take care not to perform righteous deeds in order that people may see them; otherwise, you will have no recompense from your heavenly Father.
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When you give alms, do not blow a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets to win the praise of others. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.
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But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing,
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so that your almsgiving may be secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you.
Matthew, chapter 6
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“[But] take care not to perform righteous deeds in order that people may see them; otherwise, you will have no recompense from your heavenly Father.
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When you give alms, do not blow a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets to win the praise of others. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.
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But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing,
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so that your almsgiving may be secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you.
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TheLittleLady
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Or making a video to post on You Tube
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redbetta
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Virtue signaling is more about scoring political points than showing actual virtue.
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DarkLight
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The main thing is that only applies to doing a good thing. If I’m arguing in support of a view or trying to convince others of the reasons to support a practice, that obviously cannot be done in private.
Honestly I feel like the term has just replaced “sheeple” as an accusation - it’s a way of accusing someone of arguing in bad faith by saying they only support X opinion because they want to look good for Y group, rather than because you actually have reasons to believe X.
Honestly I feel like the term has just replaced “sheeple” as an accusation - it’s a way of accusing someone of arguing in bad faith by saying they only support X opinion because they want to look good for Y group, rather than because you actually have reasons to believe X.
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Sarcelle
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Jesus himself said something about virtue signaling when he mentions Pharisees making a huge show about how holy they are.
Virtue signaling is not about practicing the virtues but about making a show about practicing the virtues. It’s all for show and it’s all about the ego.
Virtue is more of a background or a foundation of someone’s life. Sometimes seen and sometimes unseen but is private and not a performance.
Virtue signaling is not about practicing the virtues but about making a show about practicing the virtues. It’s all for show and it’s all about the ego.
Virtue is more of a background or a foundation of someone’s life. Sometimes seen and sometimes unseen but is private and not a performance.
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AlbertDerGrosse
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And talking about how virtuous you are is even less great than showing it, which is what I’ve always understood the “signaling” part of “virtue signaling” to mean. It’s not that you’re gratuitously engaging in acts of virtue for others to see you doing them, rather you’re sharing the most currently popular meme on Facebook, or bragging about how “woke” you are.
blackforest
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Ironically, bashing on virtue signaling can quickly turn into virtue signaling. (Guilty! 
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As the old saying goes, we lose our humility once we become aware of it.
)As the old saying goes, we lose our humility once we become aware of it.
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fin
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Except that I’m not setting it up. I don’t have to, other members are already doing it.
The bias on this forum is palpable.
The bias on this forum is palpable.
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0Scarlett_nidiyilii
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Sometimes virtue signaling happens when a person doesn’t feel safe. Like for instance, the lone conservative in a group of outspoken liberals might be quick to point out how much they agree with a particular liberal cause (environmental issues, for instance) because they’re anxious to demonstrate that they’re one of the “good guys” and not some Heartless Conservative”
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fin
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So true. No one wants to be bullied for an unpopular opinion.
I notice that when you’re the one with the lone opinion, that person tends to be obsequious towards the majority for fear of bullying. Can’t blame them, and I believe I’ve been in such a situation. What I usually do is just keep quiet and don’t comment. It feels very uncomfortable when this happens, and I can’t wait for the conservation to end and to leave the group of people. So much for some pleasant conversation and bonding, sigh.
I notice that when you’re the one with the lone opinion, that person tends to be obsequious towards the majority for fear of bullying. Can’t blame them, and I believe I’ve been in such a situation. What I usually do is just keep quiet and don’t comment. It feels very uncomfortable when this happens, and I can’t wait for the conservation to end and to leave the group of people. So much for some pleasant conversation and bonding, sigh.
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JulianN
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That’s interesting – I have experienced bias on this forum, but I think it’s the exact opposite of what you’d say. Which says to me that each of us is most aware of the bias we experience, but perhaps not of the bias we practice.
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