What is the "good news"?

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Indifferently said:
According to your understanding of Christianity, what is the good news (the gospel)?
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The good news, the “Gospel” is Jesus Christ. The Word of God made flesh. This answer, while seemingly simple, is also the truth, and quite serious answer. It’s not a joke. It is serious in nature, and yet joyful at the same time. I’m jubilant over it, but mean it, none the less.

Peace to you,

Steve
 
Indifferently said:
According to your understanding of Christianity, what is the good news (the gospel)?
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That God exists and loves us with a love so unconditional and lavish we could hardly stand in its presence. He desires us to be righteous-as He created us to be-and will help us in this by first saving us from sin: forgiving us for it and delivering us from slavery to it. He accomplishes this by the Atonement, whereby we’re reconciled with Him, prompting the gift of faith which serves to reestablish communion with Him, fulfilling the prophecy in Jer 31 that all will know Him, from the least to the greatest, whereupon He may then continue to fulfill the same prophecy by placing His laws on our hearts and writing them in our minds, achieving authentic righteousness/holiness in us, aligning our wills with His, molding us into beings who love as He does, which is how the law is fulfilled, and which us how faith justifies us unto eternal life.

God desires us to live with Him in eternal happiness-and He’ll help us to realize that as we cooperate in the endeavor of becoming worthy of it.
 
Servant19 said:
My question is that with all the things you list above are consequences of spiritual decisions which have an “impact” on our physical bodies and our environment. No?

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No, not all decisions come from the spiritual. Esp those that lead to violence, etc etc.

Those kinds of decision are based on fallen nature.

The act of rape, murder, etc etc are not in and of themselve spiritual in nature, but rather due to broken and fallen nature. 🙂
 
Indifferently said:
According to your understanding of Christianity, what is the good news (the gospel)?
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From the Formula of Concord Solid Declaration:

“The Gospel, however, is that doctrine which teaches what a man should believe in order to obtain the forgiveness of sins from God, since man has failed to keep the law of God and has transgressed it, his corrupted nature, thoughts, words, and deeds war against the law, and he is therefore subject to the wrath of God, to death, to temporal miseries, and to the punishment of hell-fire. The content of the Gospel is this, that the Son of God, Christ our Lord, himself assumed and bore the curse of the law and expiated and paid for all our sins, that through him alone we reenter the good graces of God, obtain forgiveness of sins through faith, are freed from death and all the punishments of sin, and are saved eternally.”
 
Indifferently said:
According to your understanding of Christianity, what is the good news (the gospel)?
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We are all sinners and deserve to die, go to Hell, and burn forever, no matter what we
do, no matter how many good things we do, but God, for a moment, entered into His
creation and died the death that should have been ours, and that only by clinging to
him are we saved, “For God so loved the world, as to give his Only Begotten Son;
that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.”
 
Marie5890 said:
No, not all decisions come from the spiritual. Esp those that lead to violence, etc etc.

Those kinds of decision are based on fallen nature.

The act of rape, murder, etc etc are not in and of themselve spiritual in nature, but rather due to broken and fallen nature. 🙂
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Thankyou Marie, so are you saying that my children are all born as rapists/murderers?

Why are there not millions of child murderers?

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Servant19 said:
I’m confused, what does “bands” mean?
How has He overcome death, and why is that good news for me?
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Oy, “bands” is a metaphor, we’re not talking like elastic or rubber.

Now “why is that good news for” you?
You could go to Heaven now. Before
Christ, no one went to Heaven.

You, me, EVERYBODY are horrible sinful people who will never on our own be worthy
to inherit eternal life, but die and be dead, forever and ever, burning without mercy, but
God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believe on
him should not perish, but have eternal life.

In dying, Christ destroyed Death,
In rising, he restored Eternal Life.

What are you missing?
 
Servant19 said:
I’m trying to understand what you say…

Why do we die the first place?
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We inherited Original Sin, we are born corrupt.
We are all springing forth from an evil humanity,
within a fallen creation, a creation fallen into Sin.

THAT is why we die.
 
Judas_Thaddeus said:
Oy, “bands” is a metaphor, we’re not talking like elastic or rubber.

Now “why is that good news for” you?
You could go to Heaven now. Before
Christ, no one went to Heaven.

You, me, EVERYBODY are horrible sinful people who will never on our own be worthy
to inherit eternal life, but die and be dead, forever and ever, burning without mercy, but
God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believe on
him should not perish, but have eternal life.

In dying, Christ destroyed Death,
In rising, he restored Eternal Life.

What are you missing?
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Hi Judas, you and I seem to enjoy our conversations, and I must say I do like your style brother 🙂

I think my presence here may make you all better apologists because I ask the questions that my heart needs to have answered in order to align Christianity with Christ (from my perspective)

If, in dying, Christ destroyed death, why do we still die?
If, in rising, Christ restored eternal life, why do Jews that eternal life was already given prior to Jesus?

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Servant19 said:
Was death “the end” then for all the souls living before Jesus came?

Was the Prophet Elijah no more when He died?
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First, Elijah never died, I don’t think, but was taken to Heaven in a chariot of fire.

Now on the other souls before Jesus, don’t you read the Bible?

The people before went to a place called “Sheol”, “The Grave”, sometimes **TRANSLATED **
as “Hades” or “Hell”, but more accurately it was the “Abode of the Dead.” Neither Heaven
or Hell, just a place where dead spirits went. What happened them? Jesus raised them !!!

NOT HELL, though this is classically called the “Harrowing of Hell,” where
after dying, the spirit of Jesus descended to the dead, where everybody be-
fore were waiting for him, thus he raised them all to Eternal Life in Heaven.

I will penetrate to all the lower parts of the earth, and will be–
hold all that sleep, and will enlighten all that hope in the Lord.
  • (Sirach 24:45)
Now that he ascended, what is it, but because he also
descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
  • (Ephesians 4:9)
In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison: Which
had been some time incredulous, when they waited for the patience of God
in the days of Noah, when the ark was a building: wherein a few, that is,
eight souls, were saved by water.
-(1 Peter 3:19-20)
 
Judas_Thaddeus said:
We inherited Original Sin, we are born corrupt.
We are all springing forth from an evil humanity,
within a fallen creation, a creation fallen into Sin.

THAT is why we die.
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The innocent children of the world die because of something done by some random guy and girl 6000 years ago.

You don’t think thats a flaw in God and His creation?
 
Servant19 said:
…If, in dying, Christ destroyed death, why do we still die?
If, in rising, Christ restored eternal life, why do Jews that eternal life was already given prior to Jesus?
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Why do we still die? Our spirits won’t die (those who believe in the Christian-Jesus).
Those who do not in spirit but get to go to Heaven will have hope in the resurrection.
After the Resurrection (After The End, btw), in new perfected bodies, we will live for-
ever, never get sick, grow old(?), nor die, and be in the very presence of God forever.

I’m afraid you’ll have to rephrase your “in rising” question, not really understanding here.
 
Judas_Thaddeus said:
Now on the other souls before Jesus, don’t you read the Bible?
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I do, and I read it “word for word” 😃
Judas_Thaddeus said:
The people before went to a place called “Sheol”, “The Grave”, sometimes **TRANSLATED **
as “Hades” or “Hell”, but more accurately it was the “Abode of the Dead.” Neither Heaven
or Hell, just a place where dead spirits went. What happened them? Jesus raised them !!!
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…so they did have eternal life?

…just not as joyous a place to go to as what we have now since Jesus came?
 
Servant19 said:
The innocent children of the world die because of something done by some random guy and girl 6000 years ago.

You don’t think thats a flaw in God and His creation?
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God is completely just. All true morality and justice is based on God.
When Adam sinned, Sin / Death entered the world, so he crippled us,
essentially. It is indeed a flaw in creation, but NOT in God, BECAUSE
HE’S GOD!!! Whatever God does is right, we have no right to question.
We can ask, we can seek learning, but we never place our own judge-
ment above God’s, which was essentially that very sin that makes us
all born spiritual dead and in need of a Savior.

Who are any of us to say, “I’m good enough for God”? No one. :tsktsk:
 
Servant19 said:
If Elijah never died then why the need for Jesus?
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Elijah was taken up for a specific purpose. I believe he was redeemed ahead of time by the
merit of Jesus, I don’t know for sure, but this is how God is working. I’m sure there’s an an-
swer floating around ‘somewhere’, but I’m only a revert.
 
Servant19 said:
I do, and I read it “word for word” 😃
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I recommend you read the Bible again and, as James White would recommend, “with both eyes open.” 👍
Servant19 said:
…so they did have eternal life?

…just not as joyous a place to go to as what we have now since Jesus came?
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They “existed”, if that’s what you mean, but that’s about it. In Sheol, you’re DEAD, that’s
pretty much the most you would expect. It certainly wasn’t where God is. In Heaven, you
are with God, I don’t know what else Heaven is like, but it’s with YHWH, and that is good.

Anywhere AWAY from the Lord FOREVER FOR ALL ETERNITY is SO unbelievably BAD!

(Luckily Sheol wasn’t forever) 😃
 
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