What is the Gospel message?

[Brandon72]

I am new here and I would like for a roman catholic to explain the Gospel to me. If you were on a mission trip in the jungles of Brazil and found me living in tribe, never knowing or heard of Jesus Christ, how would you share the Gospel?

Thank you

 

[Scoobyshme]

I am new here and I would like for a roman catholic to explain the Gospel to me. If you were on a mission trip in the jungles of Brazil and found me living in tribe, never knowing or heard of Jesus Christ, how would you share the Gospel?

Thank you

Well, if you were living in Brazil, you would probably speak Portuguese.

That being said, to share the Gospel is easy. The synthesis of the Gospel IS Jesus Christ, Himself. So, I would share Him with you like I would any person, except in this case, He is a Divine Person, 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity.

 

[Mark77]

**Deus Caritas Est…! (1 JN 4:16)

God is Love, and he who abides in love abides in God & God abides in him! (! JN 4:16)**

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

To your first question:

Now I would remind you, brethren, in what terms I preached to you the gospel, which you received, in which you stand, by which you are saved, if you hold it fast–unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures. 1 Cor 15:1-4

To your second; I don’t do hypothetical “I am ________ now share with me the Gospel”. Sorry.

God bless you

 

[runningdude]

I don’t think the “Catholic” explanation of the Gospels, especially as presented to a member of a so called primitive tribe, would be all that different than the Protestant explanation. Christ came down from heaven, was unjustly crusified, but God raised Him up on the third day for the forgiveness of humanities sins. We would then go on to explain that the risen Christ founded the Catholic church at Pentacaust, and that the Apostles became the first bishops of the Catholic Church.

The Gospels, from the Catholic perspective, tell of Christ’s human ministry, followed up by the Acts of the Apostles, which we believe tells of the early ministry of Apostles/Bishops of the Catholic Church. We believe that Christ ordained the bishops to preserve the faith of Christ and distribute the graces of the Christ’s sacrafice on the cross through the seven sacraments.

Basically subtle distinction that we hold is that the Gospels explain Christ’s great love for humanity, his willingness to die to save humanity, and his on going commitment to humanity by preserving the Catholic Church as the means to spread his grace throughout the Earth. Aside from the role of the Catholic Church, the Gospel message we teach I’m sure is quite similar to what your familiar with.

 

[Barbkw]

Tribal people in Brazil. Probably patriarchal, possibly one male to one female family relationships. Large consolidated family units.

As I understand some tribal religious rituals, they believe god spirits live in the most mature tree in the forest.

One thing to understand, is that these people will teach a U.S. person more about family love than we could ever teach them. Family is sacred to most of these tribes.

They already are loved by God, most of those tribal people are already ‘saved’ althou they don’t know Jesus.

I personally believe, that for missionaries to tribal people, that this work should be conducted with great care, (one male to one male) through the chief of the tribe.

 

[Barbkw]

Extremely important as well - that authentic Christianity is what they hear preached. Not a false Gospel of contraception, abortion, divorce, man hating feminism, a women’s right to choose, acceptance of homosexual acts, assisted suicide, etc.

 

[Della]

Most tribal peoples who live close to the soil have myths that explain the operations of the spirit world and the real world. I would learn all I could about their mythologies and then share with them the true “mythology” of the Incarnation, the life, death, resurrection, and the hoped for return of Christ. I would endeavor to have their language made into a written form, teach them that form and then teach them about the Bible (translated into their language), it’s history, it’s place in Sacred Tradition. I would teach them the Catechism, which explains the teachings of Christ’s Church which he founded and entrusted with his Gospel of love and forgiveness. Of course, all this is hypothetical, but the Church has been doing what I just described for centuries and will go on doing it until Christ returns.

 

[Brandon72]

Most tribal peoples who live close to the soil have myths that explain the operations of the spirit world and the real world. I would learn all I could about their mythologies and then share with them the true “mythology” of the Incarnation, the life, death, resurrection, and the hoped for return of Christ. I would endeavor to have their language made into a written form, teach them that form and then teach them about the Bible (translated into their language), it’s history, it’s place in Sacred Tradition. I would teach them the Catechism, which explains the teachings of Christ’s Church which he founded and entrusted with his Gospel of love and forgiveness. Of course, all this is hypothetical, but the Church has been doing what I just described for centuries and will go on doing it until Christ returns.

Thanks for all your responses!

Now if God is transforming hearts all around the world by missionaries sharing the Gospel with them about Christ life, death, and resurrection, and churches are being born everywhere even in the remote places of the world, why would I have to be part of the Roman Catholic church for salvation? Many many people are being called outside the RC church. How would you explain that?

Thank you

 

[Della]

Thanks for all your responses!

Now if God is transforming hearts all around the world by missionaries sharing the Gospel with them about Christ life, death, and resurrection, and churches are being born everywhere even in the remote places of the world, why would I have to be part of the Roman Catholic church for salvation? Many many people are being called outside the RC church. How would you explain that?

Thank you

Each of us is responsible before God for what we knew and understood. So, if you know the Church is the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church and refuse to be reconciled to it (as a Protestant you wouldn’t be a convert due to your trinitarian baptism), you would be accountable for rejecting Christ’s Church.

Those who have never heard of Christ will be judged accordingly. No one can have belief who has never heard, yes? Does that mean we don’t tell them? Of course not. It means judgment is up to God, but that in no way negates our obligation to take the Gospel to them. God saves whom he pleases–that is his perogative because he’s God. We, OTOH, will be answerable to God for the things we didn’t do (such as spreading the Gospel as we are able and called to do so) that we knew we should do.

God’s grace has been poured out on humanity due to the redemptive death and resurrection of Christ. This opened the means of salvation to all persons. Therefore, each person is judged according to the grace he was given and how he implemented that grace. So, redemption is what Christ gained and salvation may be the result, but it is not guaranteed to us just because we know about it, nor is it denied to those who through no fault of their own never heard of Christ. God is fair and just, not one who is just waiting to find fault, but forgiving, merciful, and compassionate.

 

[wisdomseeker]

I am new here and I would like for a roman catholic to explain the Gospel to me. If you were on a mission trip in the jungles of Brazil and found me living in tribe, never knowing or heard of Jesus Christ, how would you share the Gospel?

Thank you

I would gently speak to him about Jesus, the Son of the Living God. then direct him to the Catholic Church to be baptized and learn the Faith from the Church Jesus found. the Church of the Living God, the Pillar and bullwark of the Truth.

 

[wisdomseeker]

Thanks for all your responses!

Now if God is transforming hearts all around the world by missionaries sharing the Gospel with them about Christ life, death, and resurrection, and churches are being born everywhere even in the remote places of the world, why would I have to be part of the Roman Catholic church for salvation? Many many people are being called outside the RC church. How would you explain that?

Thank you

how are they being called? if Jesus found one Church, why would He be calling people to some man made Church. why would Jesus calling man to be disobedient to His Church? it doesnt make any sense, does it? could be that this calling comes from man who has free will and are disobedient and lead others into their errors?
remember what Jesus said once: " they dont enter Heaven and dont let others either."

 

[Brandon72]

I would gently speak to him about Jesus, the Son of the Living God. then direct him to the Catholic Church to be baptized and learn the Faith from the Church Jesus found. the Church of the Living God, the Pillar and bullwark of the Truth.

So all the non Roman Catholic churches in China for example, that are worshiping 12 hours a day, experiencing God’s healing power, even going as far as dying for their faith in Jesus Christ, are all in a false church?? I really think if any of you spent some time in a underground Church in China or another country that persecutes Christians, you would change your mind about leading these saints to your denomination.

It’s really sad that most people on here can’t see it’s about God and what He does, not about what your religion does for you. Millions are being born again by the Holy Spirit, nothing to do with the RC church, and you can all sit here and tell me we have to follow Rome.

 

[wisdomseeker]

So all the non Roman Catholic churches in China for example, that are worshiping 12 hours a day, experiencing God’s healing power, even going as far as dying for their faith in Jesus Christ, are all in a false church?? I really think if any of you spent some time in a underground Church in China or another country that persecutes Christians, you would change your mind about leading these saints to your denomination.

It’s really sad that most people on here can’t see it’s about God and what He does, not about what your religion does for you. Millions are being born again by the Holy Spirit, nothing to do with the RC church, and you can all sit here and tell me we have to follow Rome.

do you believe that man was giving free will?

 

[Roman_Catholic_1]

So all the non Roman Catholic churches in China for example, that are worshiping 12 hours a day, experiencing God’s healing power, even going as far as dying for their faith in Jesus Christ, are all in a false church?? I really think if any of you spent some time in a underground Church in China or another country that persecutes Christians, you would change your mind about leading these saints to your denomination.

It’s really sad that most people on here can’t see it’s about God and what He does, not about what your religion does for you. Millions are being born again by the Holy Spirit, nothing to do with the RC church, and you can all sit here and tell me we have to follow Rome.

This is why I don’t do these hypothetical questions. They are generally baited questions. Why not just come out and say what you think instead of dressing it up like its a sincere question?

God bless

 

[Della]

I’m sorry Brandon, I misread your post. Why are people being called into other churches besides the Catholic Church? I think it obvious that if a Protestant first tells them about the Gospel that they would enter into the church of the Protestant. That’s what happens with a lot of people who have never heard of Christ. That’s only natural. If an Evangelical church is all there is, then that is where converts will go.

Also, God desires that all men be saved. Any way that they hear the Gospel people are going to respond to the movement of the Holy Spirit to accept Christ. That doesn’t automatically mean they will be getting the fullness of the faith in non-Catholic churches. Whatever they learn of Christ is a grace, even if it’s incomplete. All who are baptized with the trinitarian rite (in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) who truly desire receive what baptism confers–God’s saving grace, are Christians. The Catholic Church considers all non-Catholic Christians to be imperfectly joined to the Church by means of their baptism.

No one should stifle those spreading the Gospel of Christ to others. There is nothing wrong with that and everything right with it. But, Christ also gave us the sacraments and founded his Church on Peter and the Apostles. Those who aren’t getting the full benefit of the sacraments and the Church’s authority are missing out on a great deal. Only those who come to see that the Catholic Church is truly Christ’s Church and still reject it are truly in mortal danger of going to hell. I imagine that about 99% of all non-Catholic Christians haven’t knowingly (with full knowledge of what the Church truly is) rejected the Catholic Church, wouldn’t you say? Most Protestants I know or that come here have a lot of misconceptions about the Church. God will not hold them accountable for what they didn’t know, but only for what they did know and then rejected.

 

[Brandon72]

I’m sorry Brandon, I misread your post. Why are people being called into other churches besides the Catholic Church? I think it obvious that if a Protestant first tells them about the Gospel that they would enter into the church of the Protestant. That’s what happens with a lot of people who have never heard of Christ. That’s only natural. If an Evangelical church is all there is, then that is where converts will go.

Also, God desires that all men be saved. Any way that they hear the Gospel people are going to respond to the movement of the Holy Spirit to accept Christ. That doesn’t automatically mean they will be getting the fullness of the faith in non-Catholic churches. Whatever they learn of Christ is a grace, even if it’s incomplete. All who are baptized with the trinitarian rite (in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) who truly desire receive what baptism confers–God’s saving grace, are Christians. The Catholic Church considers all non-Catholic Christians to be imperfectly joined to the Church by means of their baptism.

No one should stifle those spreading the Gospel of Christ to others. There is nothing wrong with that and everything right with it. But, Christ also gave us the sacraments and founded his Church on Peter and the Apostles. Those who aren’t getting the full benefit of the sacraments and the Church’s authority are missing out on a great deal. Only those who come to see that the Catholic Church is truly Christ’s Church and still reject it are truly in mortal danger of going to hell. I imagine that about 99% of all non-Catholic Christians haven’t knowingly (with full knowledge of what the Church truly is) rejected the Catholic Church, wouldn’t you say? Most Protestants I know or that come here have a lot of misconceptions about the Church. God will not hold them accountable for what they didn’t know, but only for what they did know and then rejected.

Ok, now I’m confused. I’ve heard Catholics say if I deny the Catholic church, the one started in Rome and all her laws and rules that go along with Scripture, I can not be saved. But you and others believe if I was baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I am saved? Which one is it?

I am a born again believer in Christ. I have a deep desire to follow Christ and his teachings found in Scripture. I was called by God, convicted to my soul about my sinful life, repented, was baptized, and now live a new life. I think the Roman Catholic church leads it’s flock into darkness. That’s why I am here, to find out exactly what you guys believe. You guys rip on all the different Protestant denominations, but most Catholics I talk to don’t agree with each other either.

God Bless

 

[wisdomseeker]

Ok, now I’m confused. I’ve heard Catholics say if I deny the Catholic church, the one started in Rome and all her laws and rules that go along with Scripture, I can not be saved. But you and others believe if I was baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I am saved? Which one is it?

I am a born again believer in Christ. I have a deep desire to follow Christ and his teachings found in Scripture. I was called by God, convicted to my soul about my sinful life, repented, was baptized, and now live a new life. I think the Roman Catholic church leads it’s flock into darkness. That’s why I am here, to find out exactly what you guys believe. You guys rip on all the different Protestant denominations, but most Catholics I talk to don’t agree with each other either.

God Bless

perhaps you what should be looking for is not what we believe but what the Church teaches.
There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.
what the Church says also is that if a person does not know about the CC, lets say, a person who lives in the mountains of NC and never heard of the CC knows nothing about the Church never heard of her, God is mercyfull to judge that person accordingly.
for those who are here and heard the teachings of the CC and rejects her, the person is in dangerous of loosing his soul.
Jesus said: who hears you, hears me and my Father in Heaven. those who reject you, rejects me and the One who sent me.
just because you got a hold of the Bible, it doesnt me you can go and make a name for yourself. built a church and bring people into it. the Church was built by Christ on Peter 2000 yers ago. all one got to do is enter in her and obey all she teaches.

 

[Della]

Ok, now I’m confused. I’ve heard Catholics say if I deny the Catholic church, the one started in Rome and all her laws and rules that go along with Scripture, I can not be saved. But you and others believe if I was baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I am saved? Which one is it?

You have to deny the Church knowing what it teaches and knowing that what it teaches is the truth in order to be in danger of hell. You’re not in that position.

I am a born again believer in Christ. I have a deep desire to follow Christ and his teachings found in Scripture. I was called by God, convicted to my soul about my sinful life, repented, was baptized, and now live a new life.

That’s great! Nothing wrong with any of that. Clearly God has made you into a new person in Christ. Why should we think that a bad thing? It’s a very, very good thing! You’ve had an awakening to faith. Praise God!

I think the Roman Catholic church leads it’s flock into darkness. That’s why I am here, to find out exactly what you guys believe.

You are simply wrong about what you think the Catholic Church is doing, but that’s understandable if you’ve been told wrong things about it. When I became a Catholic the light of Christ shone even brighter than before! It’s good you’re here to find out what the Church actually teaches. I hope you ask lots of questions. All of them can be answered quite well.

You guys rip on all the different Protestant denominations, but most Catholics I talk to don’t agree with each other either.

God Bless

Not all Catholics are good at expressing Church teaching. Many never learned how to. Apologetics isn’t necessary for being a Catholic, only faithfulness. Catholics comprise not only the well-read and well-versed in Church teaching, but also the illiterate who believe and are faithful, but can’t explain things well. God loves those who can’t explain just as much as those who can. Our faith isn’t just about what we believe but what we do. The same Catholic who may not have a good understanding of Church teaching, may be the most charitable and loving person. Jesus never commanded us to understand everything, but rather to do those things that he commanded, such as love one another and love God above all else. That is what the Church asks of it’s people, as well.

 

[Brandon72]

perhaps you what should be looking for is not what we believe but what the Church teaches.
There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.
what the Church says also is that if a person does not know about the CC, lets say, a person who lives in the mountains of NC and never heard of the CC knows nothing about the Church never heard of her, God is mercyfull to judge that person accordingly.
for those who are here and heard the teachings of the CC and rejects her, the person is in dangerous of loosing his soul.
Jesus said: who hears you, hears me and my Father in Heaven. those who reject you, rejects me and the One who sent me.
just because you got a hold of the Bible, it doesnt me you can go and make a name for yourself. built a church and bring people into it. the Church was built by Christ on Peter 2000 yers ago. all one got to do is enter in her and obey all she teaches.

I don’t believe Peter was the first Pope. I believe Mary had children after Christ. I don’t believe Jesus comes down from Heaven into a wafer every time a sinner priest wants Him to. I would never say a rosary. I would never pray to anyone accept Christ.

Am I still saved in your eyes?