What is the major factor that makes non-Christians hate Christianity?

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Yes it has. You may recognize it from the Scriptural invitation:

“Blessed are those who are called to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb!”

And then…you go up and receive Him.

Your Amen is from the heart. I believe! It is so! Hallelujah!

That’s a Jesus style altar call.
 
benjohnson said:
Why do non-Christians hate Christianity?

Corinthians 2:14

The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
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Thank you for that lovely quote from 1 Corinthians 2:14, Ben. During my long search for God, my party piece used to be: “Listen to this for gobbledegook: ‘In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.’ Old John must have been on the magic mushrooms when he wrote that!” The night I was Born Again, I went to bed for my pre-sleep read and the Bible opened at John 1:1, “In the beginning was the Word…” I cried because those were suddenly the most beautiful, profound words I had ever read. And I couldn’t understand why?🙂 I told my Catholic, not Born Again, brother this and he asked me: “well, what DOES it mean, then?” I couldn’t explain either!😃
 
Rhubarb said:
I know and know of plenty of hedonistic, ignorant, and illogical Christians. I don’t think non Christians are any more guilty or prone to that than Christians.

If I had to venture a guess, and I don’t mean to sound argumentative or insulting, I would say it’s this holier-than-thou attitude that some seem to project. But I couldn’t really say. I don’t hate Christians. I just dislike stereotype, fallacy and condescention. But those things know no religious boundaries.
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Actually, I realize that you mean no harm. I see you are an agnostic, and I appreciate your honesty. What you have said is pretty characteristic of the things that the agnostics I know say.
 
Lion_of_Narnia said:
Ah, University “religious studies” departments where “truth in religion” is either taboo or openly snickered at. An attitude apparently derived from the perspective of the social sciences, where an anthropologist and Wiccan (Richard Hutton, Triumph of the Moon) can quite openly admit his faith’s quite modern and syncretic invention, yet call Wicca “a valid religion”, in that it gives the believer (or practitioner) psychological personal validation and meaning quite apart from any relation to objective reality (natural or supernatural). It often takes an outsider from such departments (such as Kreeft, or the late Mortimer Adler) to call such post-modernist “don’t offend” wishy-washiness for what it is; scholastic gutlessness.
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So bringing together variouse similar beleafs is inherantly invalid, while combining variouse books written over thousands of years to make the bible is not? This right here is why people get mad at Christians. Wiccans beleave all religions lead to God, regardless of age or origin. Some Christians get do mad that some people refuse to beleave in the possibility of abject reality, yet themselves refuse to ever look at the possibility there is no abject reality.
 
Hunter24 said:
So bringing together variouse similar beleafs is inherantly invalid, while combining variouse books written over thousands of years to make the bible is not? This right here is why people get mad at Christians. Wiccans beleave all religions lead to God, regardless of age or origin. Some Christians get do mad that some people refuse to beleave in the possibility of abject reality, yet themselves refuse to ever look at the possibility there is no abject reality.
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I have Wiccan friends. They KNOW their faith is not an unbroken ancient tradition…but more of a “rediscovery” of some of the beauty and myth found in ancient paganism…since Wicca is not “heirarchal” in that it’s “authority” is not necessarily passed down from hand to hand…it is a valid faith tradition…what moved and mades sense to our pagan ancestors is being discovered anew in our day…
 
Publisher said:
I have Wiccan friends. They KNOW their faith is not an unbroken ancient tradition…but more of a “rediscovery” of some of the beauty and myth found in ancient paganism…since Wicca is not “heirarchal” in that it’s “authority” is not necessarily passed down from hand to hand…it is a valid faith tradition…what moved and mades sense to our pagan ancestors is being discovered anew in our day…
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What made “sense” to many of our human ancestors included throwing infants into furnaces. It also included things like self-castration and in addition to human and animal sacrifice it also included things like bestiality and druken frenzied orgies that ended up with some poor passerby by (including children) being torn to pieces. The games in the Colliseam were originaly religious funeral rites forcing slaves to kill each other ("The problem with worshiping nature is sooner or later it becomes the worship of the unnatural–GK Chesterton)

Wiccans of course do NOT do things, and I don’t think they advocate a return to them either–becuase Christ came and his Church, quite “heirarchicaly” declared they were evil and should stop.
 
Publisher said:
I have Wiccan friends. They KNOW their faith is not an unbroken ancient tradition…but more of a “rediscovery” of some of the beauty and myth found in ancient paganism…since Wicca is not “heirarchal” in that it’s “authority” is not necessarily passed down from hand to hand…it is a valid faith tradition…what moved and mades sense to our pagan ancestors is being discovered anew in our day…
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If you’re inclined to that sort of thing, maybe, but not everyone is. I’'m not. If I wanted ad hoc religion, I’d just make up my own! Occam’s rule, you know.
 
Hunter24 said:
So bringing together variouse similar beleafs is inherantly invalid, while combining variouse books written over thousands of years to make the bible is not? This right here is why people get mad at Christians. Wiccans beleave all religions lead to God, regardless of age or origin. Some Christians get do mad that some people refuse to beleave in the possibility of abject reality, yet themselves refuse to ever look at the possibility there is no abject reality.
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GK Chesterton is supposed to have responded to some bloke in a pub who declared there was no objective reality by walking up to him and dumping a pitcher of ale on his head, declaring “I baptize you in the name of the five senses!”

Here’s a quote from F. Paul Wilson “Reality is what slams into your shins when you insist on walking about with your eyes closed”

Scripture was collated by a continuous cultural complex–Jesus came out of of this Hebrew-Jewish continium, established his Church and that very same Church exists unbroken in teaching to this day–and the same gospel would have been preached if not one word of the NT been written down. We were NOT founded on a haphazard collection of books. We were founded by one Person, who was the ONLY God there is or can be, in a definate time and place, in a definate context (“Jesus the guru” or “Jesus the corn-king” is therby nonsense) and that continuity of teaching exists in fullness in the Catholic Church

And being that definate, that “exclusive” makes people hate us.
 
Lion_of_Narnia said:
GK Chesterton is supposed to have responded to some bloke in a pub who declared there was no objective reality by walking up to him and dumping a pitcher of ale on his head, declaring “I baptize you in the name of the five senses!”
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Something like that is the classic philosopher’s answer. You simply and slowly reach your foot over and snap their shin to remind them they have shins and they’re capable of discomfort that’s not only in their imagination. There’s very little that’s subjective about shins.

Even philosophy is occasionally a contact sport. 😛
 
Publisher said:
I have Wiccan friends. They KNOW their faith is not an unbroken ancient tradition…but more of a “rediscovery” of some of the beauty and myth found in ancient paganism…since Wicca is not “heirarchal” in that it’s “authority” is not necessarily passed down from hand to hand…it is a valid faith tradition…what moved and mades sense to our pagan ancestors is being discovered anew in our day…
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This is very true, while the first Wiccans in the mid 20th century beleaved the myth that Wicca is the continuation of some trands-European witch cult that beleif has been disproved and fallen out. The only people whe beleave that any more are “fluffy” Wiccans and Evangelical Protestants. Wicca REALY is an amalgamation of traditional british religion (Celtic and Druid) with some cerimonial magic and a bit of Germanic religion (via the Angles and Saxons). That BTW, other traditions and Eclectics have sense branched out. (I personally replace the Celtic influence with German).
 
Lion_of_Narnia said:
GK Chesterton is supposed to have responded to some bloke in a pub who declared there was no objective reality by walking up to him and dumping a pitcher of ale on his head, declaring “I baptize you in the name of the five senses!”

Here’s a quote from F. Paul Wilson “Reality is what slams into your shins when you insist on walking about with your eyes closed”

Scripture was collated by a continuous cultural complex–Jesus came out of of this Hebrew-Jewish continium, established his Church and that very same Church exists unbroken in teaching to this day–and the same gospel would have been preached if not one word of the NT been written down. We were NOT founded on a haphazard collection of books. We were founded by one Person, who was the ONLY God there is or can be, in a definate time and place, in a definate context (“Jesus the guru” or “Jesus the corn-king” is therby nonsense) and that continuity of teaching exists in fullness in the Catholic Church

And being that definate, that “exclusive” makes people hate us.
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Your correct, the exclusivity angers alot of people, but usualy just when Christians actively walk around denouncing other religions as the lies of false prophets. Most people don’t have a problem with Christians thinking that as long as they don’t walk around telling every non-Christian that there religion is a lie. But as I said before that’s mostly Protestants.
 
Hunter24 said:
Your correct, the exclusivity angers alot of people, but usualy just when Christians actively walk around denouncing other religions as the lies of false prophets. Most people don’t have a problem with Christians thinking that as long as they don’t walk around telling every non-Christian that there religion is a lie. But as I said before that’s mostly Protestants.
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So essentially, you are agreeing with Professor Kreeft :D. Now, some not very reflective Protestants or Catholics might state that every other religious belief is a “lie”–meaning they are totaly false. But if you let them think about it, they will admit (however reluctantly) that even the most divergent religion from theirs has some elements of truth in it

Kreeft’s listing is from a CATHOLIC perspective–which is not universalist, not pan-inclusive. It says this is the way God has revealed His being and His relation to it and other truth claims are valid to whatever degree they are in accord with Catholic teaching.
 
Lion_of_Narnia said:
What made “sense” to many of our human ancestors included throwing infants into furnaces. It also included things like self-castration and in addition to human and animal sacrifice it also included things like bestiality and druken frenzied orgies that ended up with some poor passerby by (including children) being torn to pieces. The games in the Colliseam were originaly religious funeral rites forcing slaves to kill each other ("The problem with worshiping nature is sooner or later it becomes the worship of the unnatural–GK Chesterton)

Wiccans of course do NOT do things, and I don’t think they advocate a return to them either–becuase Christ came and his Church, quite “heirarchicaly” declared they were evil and should stop.
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Interestingly, one of the church fathers, Origen Adamantius, castrated himself in response to Matt. 5:29. I don’t think I’d follow anything HE wrote!😦
 
IanGE said:
Interestingly, one of the church fathers, Origen Adamantius, castrated himself in response to Matt. 5:29. I don’t think I’d follow anything HE wrote!😦
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Another reason, I believe, Origen was ex-communicated
 
Lion_of_Narnia said:
GK Chesterton is supposed to have responded to some bloke in a pub who declared there was no objective reality by walking up to him and dumping a pitcher of ale on his head, declaring “I baptize you in the name of the five senses!”
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I was doing this fast, but I now remember this anecdote is usually tributed to Hillare Belloc rather than GKC
 
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