What is the meaning of "Inclusive Communion"

[MartinJordan]

If this has been spoken or clarified before, please correct me and point me to relevant thread.

Otherwise what does this actually mean? I understand the Anglican church tried to promote this in 2008 or so, when there was a meeting of their Bishops in Canterbury.

MJ

 

[ConstantineTG]

I think it means anyone who wants to receive Communion should, regardless of state of soul or actual belief.

 

[x1980x]

In the Episcopal Church USA, the general attitude seems to be that the Eucharist may be received in that church by any baptized person. I have taken it on multiple occasions.

 

[Publisher]

In the Episcopal Church USA, the general attitude seems to be that the Eucharist may be received in that church by any baptized person. I have taken it on multiple occasions.

I’ve attended the Episcopal eucharist and participated as well…'This is the table of the Lord…it is He who invites you…it is His table…He welcomes all to share in His meal." Is how it was presented by the priest…he knew I had not undergone water baptism.

 

[PJM]

=MartinJordan;8018932]If this has been spoken or clarified before, please correct me and point me to relevant thread.

Otherwise what does this actually mean? I understand the Anglican church tried to promote this in 2008 or so, when there was a meeting of their Bishops in Canterbury.

MJ

It is a THEOLOGICAL paradox that says: " everyone ought to be able to participate in everyone’s holy communion service. Dispite the HUGE differences in belief of Real Preesence; a memorial ONLY, a “sign of BUT not God” or a commeration BUT NOT REALLY God.

The basis frankly is men who think that they know more and know better than does God, the Bible and Christ CC.

Bad idea!

God Bless,
Pat

 

[Sheadad]

It is a THEOLOGICAL paradox that says: " everyone ought to be able to participate in everyone’s holy communion service. Dispite the HUGE differences in belief of Real Preesence; a memorial ONLY, a “sign of BUT not God” or a commeration BUT NOT REALLY God.

The basis frankly is men who think that they know more and know better than does God, the Bible and Christ CC.

Bad idea!

God Bless,
Pat

No kidding Pat, you nailed it, here’s what St. Paul says;

[26] For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. [27] Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. [30] Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you, and many sleep.

Is it that these denominations dont have scripture?

 

[PJM]

=Sheadad;8022996]No kidding Pat, you nailed it, here’s what St. Paul says;

[26] For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. [27] Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. [30] Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you, and many sleep.

Is it that these denominations dont have scripture?

Thanks,

Welcome to the Forum

God Bless,
Pat

 

[hn160]

No kidding Pat, you nailed it, here’s what St. Paul says;

[26] For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. [27] Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. [30] Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you, and many sleep.

Is it that these denominations dont have scripture?

You are absolutely right, this is why the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod practices closed Communion. I would not take communion in any other non-LC-MS church because I do not agree with their doctrine and non-LC-MS visitors should not expect to take communion in LC-MS churches. When you come to the altar for Holy Communion, everyone there is suppose to be of like mind in doctrine. There is a saying Lutheran pulpits for Lutheran pastors only and Lutheran altars for Lutherans only. Sadly the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America practices open communion, anybody from whatever can come for communion.

 

[MartinJordan]

It is a THEOLOGICAL paradox that says: " everyone ought to be able to participate in everyone’s holy communion service. Dispite the HUGE differences in belief of Real Preesence; a memorial ONLY, a “sign of BUT not God” or a commeration BUT NOT REALLY God.

The basis frankly is men who think that they know more and know better than does God, the Bible and Christ CC.

Bad idea!

God Bless,
Pat

That’s what I was afraid of.

My Catholic relatives (seeming liberal at that) apparently are going to a retreat led by the Anglican Church in Sri Lanka (which happens to be the oldest Anglican Church).

The leader of the Anglican Church in SL happens to be a proponent of this Inclusive Communion. I would assume they’re calling all Christians for this retreat and I would assume they will have it here.

MJ

 

[CMatt25]

I’ve attended the Episcopal eucharist and participated as well…'This is the table of the Lord…it is He who invites you…it is His table…He welcomes all to share in His meal." Is how it was presented by the priest…he knew I had not undergone water baptism.

My local Episcopal priest put it to me this way. After explaining to me Episcopalians officially believe in the physical real presence of the body and blood of Christ, he ended with this. But if you are called to receive, so be it.

It reminded me of Christ’s words in Jn 6:37, “I will never turn away anyone who comes to me.”

 

[Sheadad]

My local Episcopal priest put it to me this way. After explaining to me Episcopalians officially believe in the physical real presence of the body and blood of Christ, he ended with this. But if you are called to receive, so be it.

It reminded me of Christ’s words in Jn 6:37, “I will never turn away anyone who comes to me.”

The welcome and inviting message Christ says in the passage you quoted relates to souls that God has called and handed over to His son. If someone comes to the father it’s because the father draws him first. Then the father gives the person to His son hence, “I’m in the father and the father is in me”, so he will never turn away anyone who comes to me. Christ told us the he always does the will of the father, if the father draws someone, then how could Christ turn them away if he’s in the father and the father is in him? This leads us to understand more of the mystery of the trinity. As the father draws someone with the power of his Spirit, the son then receives that person and will never turn away. The accomplished work of the three in one lovingly and perfectly draw one of the elect to turn from sin and come alive in their faith. This is why “the angels in heaven rejoice when one sinner repents”.

But I went off on a tangent there, I have a question for your pastor. if the disciples were witness to Christ’s life for three years and were witness to his astounding miracles and were taught by Christ himself in words and real life lessons for THREE years before they were invited to share in the real presence, what would make him think it would be OK for everyone and all to receive?

 

[amber_lux]

Is it that these denominations dont have scripture?

Methodists use the verses you quote, to explain why participation is a matter between the individual of God. And that it is God, not man, that determines who is worthy. Which is why Open Communion is taught in the Bible.

Amber

 

[CMatt25]

The welcome and inviting message Christ says in the passage you quoted relates to souls that God has called and handed over to His son. If someone comes to the father it’s because the father draws him first. Then the father gives the person to His son hence, “I’m in the father and the father is in me”, so he will never turn away anyone who comes to me. Christ told us the he always does the will of the father, if the father draws someone, then how could Christ turn them away if he’s in the father and the father is in him? This leads us to understand more of the mystery of the trinity. As the father draws someone with the power of his Spirit, the son then receives that person and will never turn away. The accomplished work of the three in one lovingly and perfectly draw one of the elect to turn from sin and come alive in their faith. This is why “the angels in heaven rejoice when one sinner repents”.

But I went off on a tangent there, I have a question for your pastor. if the disciples were witness to Christ’s life for three years and were witness to his astounding miracles and were taught by Christ himself in words and real life lessons for THREE years before they were invited to share in the real presence, what would make him think it would be OK for everyone and all to receive?

Well actually he’s not my pastor. I didn’t mean to sound like he was. I should have written “the” local Episcopalian priest in my area instead of “my”.

I’m not sure what’s the big deal about 3 yrs if you are talking about 3 yrs until the Last Supper. Christ couldn’t have a Last Supper to share with the Apostles until it was well, the Last Supper.

But anyway here were the Episcopalian priest’s words, “All that aside, no one is interrogating anyone when they come forward. If anyone feels so called to come forward and receive, so be it!”

At a Catholic Mass, I’ve said a prayer which goes something like this. "Lord I am not worthy to receive You but only say the word and I shall be healed. I know the Catholic Church does not mean for those words to be taken in the following way. But perhaps the Episcopalian priest in his heart takes such words literally. God says the word and heals and calls one forward to receive. I don’t know. I didn’t pursue it further with him.

Peace