What is the modern Jewish perspective on Jesus?

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It would be great to hear this from a Jewish person, or someone who is well-acquainted with Jewish people.

I understand there is likely to be some variety of opinion, as there are some Messianic Jews.

But I’m interested in how they interpret Jesus and His teachings today, not how the Sanhedrin interpreted Jesus in the 1st century.

I’m sure most Israelis know that there is great Evangelical Christian support for Israel, so I wonder if this in any way affects their teaching and rhetoric about Jesus the Jewish Prophet.

This is an agenda-free question. I am Catholic, raised in the Midwest, and do not know any Jewish people. I am sincerely curious.
 
Jewish perspective on Jesus is exactly the same as it was 2000 years ago: a liar and a false prophet.

Messianic Jews are not Jews any more because their religion is not Judaism, they consider themselves to be Christians.

Some Evangelical Christians believe that there has to be independent Israel, otherwise Jesus won’t come again (obvious nonsense). They are just a tool to keep Israel safe.
 
Jewish perspective on Jesus is exactly the same as it was 2000 years ago: a liar and a false prophet.
That would assume that we thought much about him at all.
Messianic Jews are not Jews any more
Most never were, they’re Christians who like a bit of ‘Judaica’ in their lives.
 
It would be great to hear this from a Jewish person, or someone who is well-acquainted with Jewish people.

I understand there is likely to be some variety of opinion, as there are some Messianic Jews.

But I’m interested in how they interpret Jesus and His teachings today, not how the Sanhedrin interpreted Jesus in the 1st century.

I’m sure most Israelis know that there is great Evangelical Christian support for Israel, so I wonder if this in any way affects their teaching and rhetoric about Jesus the Jewish Prophet.

This is an agenda-free question. I am Catholic, raised in the Midwest, and do not know any Jewish people. I am sincerely curious.
Perhaps you might consider these questions? If you do then you might find your answer. 🙂

Why would you assume that we’d be any more interested in Jesus than, say, the Buddha or Mohamed?

Why would you assume that we’d be interested enough in ‘Jesus and His teachings’ to bother to interpret them at all?

Why would you assume we’d think of the ‘New Testament’ as anything other than a pious fiction?
 
The only perspective on Jesus that matters is that He is God Incarnate risen from the dead and only Savior.
 
Jewish perspective on Jesus is exactly the same as it was 2000 years ago: a liar and a false prophet.

Messianic Jews are not Jews any more because their religion is not Judaism, they consider themselves to be Christians.

Some Evangelical Christians believe that there has to be independent Israel, otherwise Jesus won’t come again (obvious nonsense). They are just a tool to keep Israel safe.
I suggest that you ASK some messianic Jews whether or not they’re Jews before you make a statement like that.The first Christians WERE Jews
 
Perhaps you might consider these questions? If you do then you might find your answer. 🙂

Why would you assume that we’d be any more interested in Jesus than, say, the Buddha or Mohamed?

Why would you assume that we’d be interested enough in ‘Jesus and His teachings’ to bother to interpret them at all?

Why would you assume we’d think of the ‘New Testament’ as anything other than a pious fiction?
Answers to all of the above.

Because Christianity might actually be Judaism as it should have become, it’s fulfillment, whereas Buddhism and Islam make no such claim.

A secular Jew would still have no interest in this even if true, of course.

On a somewhat related note - I just finished reading “Salvation is from the Jews” hoping to get a better feeling for how the early Jew/Christians might have viewed Jesus. The book was a big disappointment (to me) in that regard since it didn’t actually go into it as much as I hoped. However, the book did give me a HUGE appreciation (in the sense of a better understanding) for what the holocaust did to the Jewish religion in modern times…it turned a lot of faithful Jews into atheists.
 
Because Christianity might actually be Judaism as it should have become, it’s fulfillment, whereas Buddhism and Islam make no such claim.
Actually, as someone who has experienced both, maybe Reform Judaism (can’t speak for the other branches) is what Christianity should have been as taught by your Christ.
 
it turned a lot of faithful Jews into atheists.
Yes. It did. My father’s family lost the faith for a good generation in reaction. How could the Divine have turned his face from his people and left them in such straits. I don’t know and I prefer not to contemplate the question, lest I lose my faith as well.
 
However, the book did give me a HUGE appreciation (in the sense of a better understanding) for what the holocaust did to the Jewish religion in modern times…it turned a lot of faithful Jews into atheists.
Perhaps so, but keep in mind also that secularization of Jewish culture in Eastern and Central Europe began sometime in the 19th century with industrialization and was already rampant when Hitler and the Nazi’s rose to power.
 
Yes. It did. My father’s family lost the faith for a good generation in reaction. How could the Divine have turned his face from his people and left them in such straits. I don’t know and I prefer not to contemplate the question, lest I lose my faith as well.
It’s never easy to deal with suffering and misfortune (especially on the scale of a genocide), but don’t believers have a leg up on non-believers in that department? That is, if one does not believe in God then how do you understand the nature of evil? At least believers have some system in which to make evil actions comprehensible.
 
Actually, as someone who has experienced both, maybe Reform Judaism (can’t speak for the other branches) is what Christianity should have been as taught by your Christ.
I’m not sure what you’re saying here. Have you been both Catholic and Reformed Jew?
 
Yes. It did. My father’s family lost the faith for a good generation in reaction. How could the Divine have turned his face from his people and left them in such straits. I don’t know and I prefer not to contemplate the question, lest I lose my faith as well.
The last thing I want you to do is lose your faith. There are too many atheists these days, and from the Christian perspective, the Jews are our older brothers, who just haven’t seen the light yet 😉

Spoiler alert - this may lead to some contemplation of the question:

Roy Schoeman points out that Jewish and Christian (Catholic) thought agree on the first 2 of these 3 points:
  1. God is all good, all loving, and all powerful.
  2. The Jews are the chosen people, the favorites of God.
  3. The good will be rewarded in this life, and evil people will be punished for their deeds in this life.
Jews believe #3 and Catholics don’t - since we believe in rewards and punishment in the afterlife. He claims that many Jews absolutely believe 2 and 3, so the only answer to the holocaust is that 1 must be wrong. Well, that’s the short version.
 
Perhaps so, but keep in mind also that secularization of Jewish culture in Eastern and Central Europe began sometime in the 19th century with industrialization and was already rampant when Hitler and the Nazi’s rose to power.
Yes, the book covers that as well in great detail. It was a real eye opener to me how this developed.
 
Thanks for the response.
Perhaps you might consider these questions? If you do then you might find your answer. 🙂

Why would you assume that we’d be any more interested in Jesus than, say, the Buddha or Mohamed?
For somewhat obvious reasons; neither Buddha nor Mohammed claimed to be the Jewish Messiah, and the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets.
Why would you assume that we’d be interested enough in ‘Jesus and His teachings’ to bother to interpret them at all?
Because Judiasm and Christianity share a common moral and spiritual foundation in the Hebrew scriptures, and Jesus expounds upon that foundation in teachings that can be accepted without accepting that he was divine. For example, in the Sermon on the Mount.

He also addressed hypocrisy. Surely, even if his claims for being divine were not accepted, and his followers claims of his resurrection were discounted, there is a common sense of right and wrong and a deeper good that flows from the correcting of hypocrisy. As an analogy, as Catholics, we humbly accept the correction of abuse in the Church that Martin Luther addressed, and that may be done without agreeing a break from the Church was needed.

I have come across several essays from rabbis that I have really enjoyed and felt spiritual benefit from. I feel those rabbis and I have places of common agreement, and I enjoy hearing their wisdom. Their wisdom is especially meaningful to me because it comes from the Hebrew scriptures. I wondered if there were many Jewish rabbis who had this sort of appreciation for Jesus’ teachings even though they did not accept his claims of divinity. Or- alternatively- if he were regarded as the first poster described, as a “liar”. A liar probably would not be seen as having much to contribute to ecumenical dialouge.
Why would you assume we’d think of the ‘New Testament’ as anything other than a pious fiction?
Well, first because Jesus was not at all pious. “Pious” is an adjective that I assoicate with a person making a great effort to be externally righteous. “Pious” would describe a person who sought to be without blame and fault; not simply to himself or to God, but to the world. Jesus ate with prostitutes, so he certainly didn’t consider himself a pious person. He considered himself to be righteous- in fact, the epitome and embodiment of all that is internally and externally righteous, but not pious.

In fact, if anything, Jesus was ironic, not pious. When Christians look at a cross, they see a religous symbol. I don’t know what other religions see when they look at a cross.But when the 1st century Romans and Jewish people looked at a cross, they saw shame. They saw the embodiment of what the world despised. They saw weakness. They saw defeat. They saw ridicule. They saw insanity. They saw physical torture. They saw a person who had been ostracized by his own disciples, and abandoned by everyone except his mother, some women, and a young man.

So, how could such shame be transformed into the King of Kings? It is intriguing, if nothing else, and certainly not another pious testament by an insignificant person.
 
I’m not sure what you’re saying here. Have you been both Catholic and Reformed Jew?
I am now Reform Jew (not reformed, I’m probably too old to be reformed) and I was Catholic.

I find the actual preachings of your Jesus, for instance, the sermon on the mount, to be a brilliant exegesis of Leviticus. But I reject the concept of an actual son of the Divine and all that flows from that. And I reject just about everything written by Paul.
 
I am now Reform Jew (not reformed, I’m probably too old to be reformed) and I was Catholic.

I find the actual preachings of your Jesus, for instance, the sermon on the mount, to be a brilliant exegesis of Leviticus. But I reject the concept of an actual son of the Divine and all that flows from that. And I reject just about everything written by Paul.
Hi

May be you were not much informed a Catholic as you opted to become a Jew. Are you ready to know more about Catholicism from our fiends here?

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna

Thanks
 
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