What is the most annoying thing you've read on the forums?

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Napsack said:
There are several. You must have a Bible or access to one first.
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Annoying things? Snide comments from Christian to Christian.

I believe it is a foregone conclusion we all have a Bible and access to one.
 
pnewton said:
Annoying things? Snide comments from Christian to Christian.

I believe it is a foregone conclusion we all have a Bible and access to one.
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From some of the posts I see, it is questionable sometimes.
 
Napsack said:
From some of the posts I see, it is questionable sometimes.
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for sure…

I mean where do the OSAS people come up with any kind of justification for that belief?

When i see a person who believes in that, i automaticaly think:

he doesn’t know the Bible:eek: 😦
 
Ridgerunner said:
Oh! This is easy!

“You have been assigned one point for failure of charity.” 😊
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yeah… whatever happened to freedom of speech…?

whatever happened to loving truth over… “niceties”…

true, some things at CAF are said uncharitably… but sometimes this line is given to those who, i feel, are just trying to speak up for truth…

sometimes being charitable is not too charitable… I mean, all this nice-ness is sometimes a cover-up for not giving a rip whether someone ends up in Hell or not…

I assume you know waht i mean??

for example: it may sometimes be more charitable to say to someone s/he is on the way to Hell… than to just be all “nice”… etc… :rolleyes:
 
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for example: it may sometimes be more charitable to say to someone s/he is on the way to Hell… than to just be all “nice”… etc… :rolleyes:
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The only person who knows such thing is God.

Presuming to be God is uncharitable under my book.
 
The most annoying thing for me is when I have taken the time to post a thoughtfull response, only to have a rebuttal that is nothing but a lame personal attack like, “you obviously haven’t read the bible because, …” (regurgitation of original point with no new information or additional response).

It makes me conclude the person has not considered what I’ve posted, and is not truly interested in establishing a dialogue.

Peace,
Robert

P.S. That being said, despite the trolls and blockheads many more people do come here with the intention of keeping an open mind. I’ve had some great interaction with some very charitable non-Catholics here. That’s what keeps me coming back for more discussion.
 
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yeah… whatever happened to freedom of speech…?

whatever happened to loving truth over… “niceties”…

true, some things at CAF are said uncharitably… but sometimes this line is given to those who, i feel, are just trying to speak up for truth…

sometimes being charitable is not too charitable… I mean, all this nice-ness is sometimes a cover-up for not giving a rip whether someone ends up in Hell or not…

I assume you know waht i mean??

for example: it may sometimes be more charitable to say to someone s/he is on the way to Hell… than to just be all “nice”… etc… :rolleyes:
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Perhaps your opinion of who is going to hell is not a factor in God’s decision.
 
Perhaps we need to use the tried and true counseling technique of restating what the other person said to their satisfaction before being allowed to retort at all. LOL
 
distracted said:
for sure…

I mean where do the OSAS people come up with any kind of justification for that belief?

When i see a person who believes in that, i automaticaly think:

he doesn’t know the Bible:eek: 😦
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That’s an interesting point because I believe that many of the OSAS folks are just simply not saved and that’s the whole problem. Once somebody is truly saved, they are saved. It doesn’t become a question of if they relapse back to being a heathen, they simply won’t ever fall out of God’s grace again because they are TRULY saved. I’m certain that this happens to far less people than are claimed. I see your point however.
 
Napsack said:
That’s an interesting point because I believe that many of the OSAS folks are just simply not saved and that’s the whole problem. Once somebody is truly saved, they are saved. It doesn’t become a question of if they relapse back to being a heathen, they simply won’t ever fall out of God’s grace again because they are TRULY saved. I’m certain that this happens to far less people than are claimed.
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There is a circular reasoning at work in this definition. If truly saved is defined as those that don’t fall away, then of course they won’t lapse. I have know people over the last twenty years that truly believe they were saved that quit Church and are done with it. Could they have been self-deluded? Of course. But if we include the possibility of self-delusion there is even less security for the Christian as no one is capable of being aware of a self-delusion, by definition of the word.

And yes I own a Bible, many. I have read several of them.
 
pnewton said:
There is a circular reasoning at work in this definition. If truly saved is defined as those that don’t fall away, then of course they won’t lapse. I have know people over the last twenty years that truly believe they were saved that quit Church and are done with it. Could they have been self-deluded? Of course. But if we include the possibility of self-delusion there is even less security for the Christian as no one is capable of being aware of a self-delusion, by definition of the word.

And yes I own a Bible, many. I have read several of them.
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If someone is truly saved, it is Christ that does the work, not the individual. We cannot save ourselves. We could never keep from falling away by our own merits. If we are truly saved, it is Christ who sustains us. C.S. Lewis once said that in the end, it isn’t going to matter what we did, it will only matter who we are with.
 
Napsack said:
If someone is truly saved, it is Christ that does the work, not the individual. We cannot save ourselves. We could never keep from falling away by our own merits. If we are truly saved, it is Christ who sustains us. C.S. Lewis once said that in the end, it isn’t going to matter what we did, it will only matter who we are with.
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I did not intend to reenter the Calvinist debate, just to point out that a good definition can be elusive, if we try to define something first assuming that our point is right.

I am well versed in both sides to the argument and the Scriptures used. I am pleased to be done with it.
 
pnewton said:
I did not intend to reenter the Calvinist debate, just to point out that a good definition can be elusive, if we try to define something first assuming that our point is right.

I am well versed in both sides to the argument and the Scriptures used. I am pleased to be done with it.
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Fine, I was just offering some conversation.
 
Napsack said:
If someone is truly saved, it is Christ that does the work, not the individual. We cannot save ourselves. We could never keep from falling away by our own merits. If we are truly saved, it is Christ who sustains us. C.S. Lewis once said that in the end, it isn’t going to matter what we did, it will only matter who we are with.
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CS Lewis was Protestant… This quote puts forth something not entirely “Catholic” and therefore, not entirely true. Yes, it is true that what matters most is who are “with”… but it also matters VERY much what we DO…

We can’t just sin with impunity and claim, at the same time, to be “in Christ”… as i believe M. Luther taught till the end of his life.:rolleyes:
 
kalt said:
Posts by non-Catholics who use the non-Catholic religions forum to bash Catholicism. 🙂
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I totally agree…!!!

and i would add:

non-Catholics who use this whole forum to spout ad nauseum their anti-Catholic views…

Actually it makes me somewhat “nauseous” to hear someone refer to the Catholic Church as… something to be nauseated over. Either those who do so do not have a clue as to what Catholicism is about (we hope its that) or they are belligerent and refuse to let go of their pride (or wahtever) and admit that Catholicism IS the Chruch Christ established on Earth…

after all… it is the only one that goes back to the time of Christ… That alone should say something…

🤷
 
Napsack said:
There are several. You must have a Bible or access to one first.
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Which version of the bible are you referring to…the Complete version (read Catholic) or the “lite” version (read Protestant)?
 
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