What is the most right wing opinion you can hold without being “far right”?

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I think you are far left if you believe that expressing Conservative opinions should be banned by law.
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But that would not necessarily be a true statement, I am not sure what you are trying to get at with your examples.
 
Its a very straight and simple question with no agenda. I would like to hear a straight opinion from the left about where the line between fair-play conservative and beyond-the-pale conservative lies, in their opinion.
 
You realize that not all posters here in this forum are Americans right?

What’s left and right in this country may not necessarily be left and right in other countries.

There might not even be a left and right at all.

Even if you just take the Americans here, there wouldn’t be any agreement even among the left leaning people or among the more right leaning people.

So even if this question was simple and straightforward according to you it doesn’t lead to an obvious answer.
 
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It should be straightforward for a Democrat voter to tell me what he or she thinks about this.

So far the silence is deafening.

His does not in fact surprise me because I don’t think many people on the left bother to think carefully what they mean when they use the “far-right” epithet. It’s just a term of abuse.

But I was hoping that on this forum there might be some honourable exceptions.
 
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Maximian said:
His does not in fact surprise me because I don’t think many people on the left bother to think carefully what they mean when they use the “far-right” epithet. It’s just a term of abuse.
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I don’t actually think it’s an epithet or abusive. Any more than “far left” is. There’s a spectrum politically and people fall on it at various places.

However, nor do I think there’s much to be gained in our already divided nation (assuming you meant the US since you said “domicrat” (sic), which I’m hoping was simply a typo) by attempting to draw even more lines of division and categorizing.
 
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There’s a spectrum politically and people fall on it at various places.
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There certainly is, I agree. But a person using this phrase should know roughly where for him or her the “far right” end of the spectrum begins.
JulianN said:
attempting to draw even more lines of division and categorizing.
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The term is being used. I would just like to see it being used as part of a rational debate with meaning, rather than a meaningless insult.

It’s a term I use too, and for me it means right wing people whose political program either includes abolishing elections or openly defining other races as inferior and aiming to legislate separately for them as in apartheid and, in Europe, a number of small antisemitic and anti-black movements.

Thanks for pointing out typo which Im correcting
 
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I do hope that the cognitive dissonance such a question as this is likely to create here can be reconciled with your conscience!! 😉
 
Zero cognitive dissonance, since not one person has attempted to offer their answer.

I do hope that your remark does not mask a judgmental attitude towards me.
 
It would be better for all to abandon this left-right nonsense and actually listen to each other for a change.

Instead of caricaturing each other aim for productive dialogue.

As a registered Republican I do not think of myself as right wing and I’m sure there are registered Democrats that do not think of themselves as left wing.

By the way, you spelled honorable as honourable. Are you American?
 
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Far-right politics actually has some degree of definition. Basically, if you view politics on a left-right spectrum, then it would take the ideologies of the right to extremes, often resulting in things like fascism. Of course, there are still modern movements that follow these ideologies. Similar things can be said of the (Far-left politics - Wikipedia).

Problems tend to arise when people fail to understand what is truly behind far-left/right politics and/or what a person actually stands for. This is pretty standard behavior from both sides.
 
If you go too far right, you fall off the edge and then you’re far left.
 
i am of the opinion that our leaders need to show more respect for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, specifically, the 2nd Amendment that enables good people to defend themselves if needed, against violent criminals in our society who attack them, and against a government that becomes too tyrannical. This is why it allows for state militias as well as individual citizens to bear arms. It helps keep us safe when all else fails.

The fallacy that banning firearms will keep them out of the hands of criminals is just plain false. Criminals don’t abide by our laws, so making firearms illegal isn’t going to stop them one bit. It will make us sitting ducks, however.

I don’t think this is right winged, at all. It’s common sense.
 
To me ‘right’ simply means ‘against the Left’ and ‘far right’ means either ‘succeeding against the Left’ or a derogatory slur against people who are the ‘wrong’ type of ‘Left’ such as Hitler’s socialists.
 
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I do want to say that this thread has made me think a bit about what point I would accuse someone of being far right…it certainly isn’t just someone that thinks more to the right than I do.

I can suggest some things that raise a bit of a flag for me…will that do?

When I hear someone talking about the Dark Web.
When I hear of conspiracy theories that go beyond “out there”…such as Jewish banking or ridiculous plots against democracy, accusing ALL democrats.

There isn’t some bright line in the sand. I think some conservatives have some ideas that are bordering on far right but most are just plainly conservative points…not extreme ones!
 
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What I am really hoping for is for some brave leftist to step forward and say honestly where the line lies.
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“Slavery” is short hand for the Atlantic slave trade of African natives. Was there other slavery in America before Columbus? Probably. Did the Atlantic slave trade vastly outnumber most other instances of slavery in world history? Maybe. Have more Africans immigrated to America than were brought here as slaves? Numerically, yes.

I’m a leftist. There remains racism in this country and there remains inaccurate mythology, too. MLK was not a Republican and the Democratic party did not create the KKK, no matter how much conservatives rant today. Conservatives did not lead the civil rights movement, either. It was a progressive joint. There are historic reasons why the anti-racism movement in the 20th century and those who opposed racism were not based in or supported by Republicans or conservatives. The far right tends to ignore history: Notre Dame barred black applicants. Jesuits owned slaves and barred black applicants until very recently in their history.

What is the far right? Those who would change the constitution to fit their agendas. Freedom of religion is for everyone and no right is limitless, including the right to bear arms. There is no assault on Christianity in America, the country is pluralistic, which is different. Can the government shut churches during a health pandemic? Probably. Just look at the restrictions against the snake handlers in some sects. Historians will tell you that there was no American revolution – it was a war of independence. America was an aristocracy before and after 1776 so what happened was not a revolution.

“Far right” actions include setting up strawmen and using inaccurate shortcuts to frighten: ‘Socialism’ and ‘sharia law’ come to mind. Those do not endanger this country.

There is no bright line which separates the far right, but I can surely give out examples.
 
Inflammatory? Historic:

“Bruce Wright, who had spent some of his childhood living in the university’s shadow, applied to Princeton in the 1930s. Wright was accepted and awarded a scholarship, and he arrived in the fall excited to join the freshman class. So far as Dean of Admission Radcliffe Heermance was concerned, however, there was a problem: Wright was black, something the Office of Admissions hadn’t know when they offered him a place among a class of Princetonians without any other black students. Though many students stood in line with Wright to register for classes at the start of the academic year, Heermance refused to admit him. …
He ultimately earned a B.A. from Lincoln University in 1942, after the University of Notre Dame also turned Wright away on account of race.”

Princeton gave him an honorary degree but Notre Dame never did.

" Justice Wright was made an honorary member of Princeton’s 2001 graduating class after having been awarded a scholarship to attend Princeton in 1939, but then being denied admission when the university learned that he was black. (Wright’s father is an African-American, his mother is white.) Wright was denied admission to Notre Dame on the same grounds. [Source: Bruce Wright, Black Robes, White Justice (Secaucus, New Jersey: Lyle Stuart Inc., 1987)]"

As to the Jesuits, see Fr. Lawrence Lucas: “Black Priest, White Church”
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Priest-White-Church-Catholics/dp/0865431094
 
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Foreword by Bruce Wright, “Black Priest, White Church”
 
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