What is the Prostestants interpretation os these verse

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27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.
St Paul emphasizes the fatal effects of receiving the Eucarist unworthily,it is comparable to murdering Christ
 
Well. I am not sure. I have not heard of people getting sick or dying when they take unworthily BUT that does not mean it does not happen:shrug:
As far as examination of conscience, I think most people do.
 
In the Protestant tradition I was raised in, “eating and drinking unworthily” meant non-Christians were barred from the “memorial meal”. When little kids in this tradition ‘got saved’ (i.e. they prayed to accept Jesus in their hearts), then they were allowed to partake. They could then be baptized too, if they wanted to, though most weren’t until several years later.

The pastor always encouraged the congregation to make a sort of examination of conscience beforehand, the idea being that a “memorial meal” was a good time to make amends with someone. No ‘born-again Christian’ could be barred because of sin, as far as I know.

This is generally the Baptist/evangelical interpretation. Other Protestants are different.
 
Jon_Hus said:
When was the last time you drank of the chalice?
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Happens all the time in Eastern Catholic Churches.

Did you know that some Hussites were, for a time, in union with the Orthodox Church?

Even though the Precious Blood was distributed, along with the Body of Christ, with a spoon, that was not an issue for them.
 
BrianH said:
Well. I am not sure. I have not heard of people getting sick or dying when they take unworthily BUT that does not mean it does not happen:shrug:
As far as examination of conscience, I think most people do.
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Brain what is your interpretattion of unworthy, Paul words in 1cor 10-11 are meaninggless without the Real Presenace
 
BrianH said:
Well. I am not sure. I have not heard of people getting sick or dying when they take unworthily BUT that does not mean it does not happen:shrug:
As far as examination of conscience, I think most people do.
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I do not believe you will become physically sick nor have I have I ever heard of anyone that has become ill. Quite frankly, I do not believe it to be such a bad thing when a non believer receives the Host. Hey, whether they believe that it is Jesus Christ or not, He is now in there body. Right?
 
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Quite frankly, I do not believe it to be such a bad thing when a non believer receives the Host. Hey, whether they believe that it is Jesus Christ or not, He is now in there body. Right?
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The problem is that we have an obligation to protect their soul. We cannot know their inner desires and beliefs, but if we know they do not believe in the real presence, it is our obligation to prevent them from “eating and drinking judgment up themselves.”

In a protestant service, they do not believe the bread and drink are becoming the body and blood of Jesus Christ, so there is no condemnation associated with taking this unworthily. This is because there cannot be a discernment of the body and blood of Jesus if there is no body and blood of Jesus present.

So it is a very bad thing to let someone condemn themselves when we have the ability to prevent it. That being said, we know Jesus knew Judas was not of proper dispensation and yet He allowed Judas to partake in the Eucharist. So maybe there is some grace even those who do not believe will receive though it is still safe to say that Judas ate and drank judgment upon himself that night.

God Bless.
 
OchsFam said:
The problem is that we have an obligation to protect their soul. We cannot know their inner desires and beliefs, but if we know they do not believe in the real presence, it is our obligation to prevent them from “eating and drinking judgment up themselves.”

In a protestant service, they do not believe the bread and drink are becoming the body and blood of Jesus Christ, so there is no condemnation associated with taking this unworthily. This is because there cannot be a discernment of the body and blood of Jesus if there is no body and blood of Jesus present.

So it is a very bad thing to let someone condemn themselves when we have the ability to prevent it. That being said, we know Jesus knew Judas was not of proper dispensation and yet He allowed Judas to partake in the Eucharist. So maybe there is some grace even those who do not believe will receive though it is still safe to say that Judas ate and drank judgment upon himself that night.

God Bless.
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Well that definitely makes sense. Apologies if my statement sounded naive to the Blessed Sacrament. It was just a thought that has been on my mind lately. Thanks for the reply.

PAX
 
It’s another baiting thread, Protestants. I would think twice before answering.
 
It’s important to remember that to recieve the Blessed Sacrament a person must be in a state of Grace and have no mortal sins on their soul.

It is important if a person is not in a state of Grace that they be restored to it through the Sacrament of Confession. A person’s Baptism after they have recieved instruction can also wipe away all mortal (and venial) sins if they have never been previously validly Baptized.

If one is not in full Communion with the Catholic Church (in a state of Grace) then one cannot and should not recieve the Blessed Sacrament. It is a great spiritual danger to the soul of the person recieving and is also a great sacrilige to the Holy Eucharist. I believe Father Serpa has referred to this sacrilege in some of his Apologetic posts as worse than throwing the Blessed Sacrament into the sewer.
 
Bill_Pick said:
27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.
St Paul emphasizes the fatal effects of receiving the Eucarist unworthily,it is comparable to murdering Christ
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I don’t know about the last phrase, Bill, but Lutherans are expected to confess and receive Holy Absolution, at least in public confession, prior to receiving the Eucharist. Lutherans, if they are true to scripture and the Confessions, discern the true and substantial body and blood of Christ in the Eucharist. The LCMS practices close communion, in part to protect those who might not understand or discern His real presence.

Jon
 
=OchsFam;6265933]The problem is that we have an obligation to protect their soul. We cannot know their inner desires and beliefs, but if we know they do not believe in the real presence, it is our obligation to prevent them from “eating and drinking judgment up themselves.”
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LCMS Lutherans would agree with this.
In a protestant service, they do not believe the bread and drink are becoming the body and blood of Jesus Christ, so there is no condemnation associated with taking this unworthily.
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Depends on the Protestant Church you are talking about, since Protestant is not a name of a Church, but a term used loosely to describe non-Catholic western Christians. Lutherans acknowledge as clearly and concisely as any Christian communion the fact of the real presence. From the Apology of the Augsburg Confession:
we confess that we believe, that in the Lord’s Supper the body and blood of Christ are truly and substantially present, and are truly tendered, with those things which are seen, bread and wine, to those who receive the Sacrament.
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bookofconcord.org/defense_8_holysupper.php
This is because there cannot be a discernment of the body and blood of Jesus if there is no body and blood of Jesus present.
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If this is a reference to the Catholic teaching that only priests in apostolic succession can confect the Eucharist, then you are correct about the Catholic teaching. Of course, you’ll understand if Lutherans, and some others respectfully disagree.

Jon
 
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