What is the reason the Catholics here view and respond to "Mormon" topic threads?

[Annie_B]

Hi Annie Guess I should have checked your profile Sorry about that …

I have often ondered by some non - catholics come here to a Catholic site, try to convert the catholcs here and then get insulted when the folks get upset and fight back

I am glad that you are not going to start a MAF, especially since you are not Mormon

I would not start ANY answers Forum…I don’t have the stomach for it:hypno:

And as far as my profie, I used to be Mormon but returned the the Catholic Church recently:thumbsup: Thanks for your reply!

Annie

 

[MelanieAnne]

Another question might be why do Mormons come to a Catholic site, even if it is the “non-Catholic religions” section of a Catholic site?

I agree with IBKC, I find Mormonism interesting. I personally believe the religion itself is built on nonsense and fabrication but the friends that I have that are Mormon (some of those friendships began when I was a teenager & continue to this day) are all very good people. I believe they are misguided, but that doesn’t mean they’re bad people.

Once upon a time the Mother of one of my oldest friends, the first friend I had that was Mormon, told me about a conversation she herself had had with a Catholic priest. She quoted him as saying “Well, you know, either we’re right or your right, but no one else is right.” And I believe that’s true. Of course I believe the Catholic Church is right, otherwise I suppose I’d be a Mormon .

I’ve found that a lot of Mormons posting to this forum cannot answer basic questions about their religion, that I often know more about it than they do, and take any questioning of details as a personal attack. All too often everything is personalized, which is unfortunate. More productive discussions could perhaps come out of a situation where Mormons did not take questions about their religion as some sort of personal attack.

I suppose I return from time to time in hopes that someday there will be someone with whom to discuss the faith who is knowledgeable, mature, and does not personalize every exchange. All too often one or more of those elements is missing and any discussion quickly goes off-track.

 

[Pug]

I became interested in Mormons because of a relative whom I care about. She told me about many things, and so I became curious. Like, what is this with the caffeine, and the getting selected or called to do things you’d never chose for yourself, etc. Also, having different religions in the family makes strange tensions. This creates a desire to understand or erase them if you can (but you can’t really, but you desire to, so you have motivation to look into it). How can I not care about things that affect my family?

 

[Annie_B]

Another question might be why do Mormons come to a Catholic site, even if it is the “non-Catholic religions” section of a Catholic site?

I agree with IBKC, I find Mormonism interesting. I personally believe the religion itself is built on nonsense and fabrication but the friends that I have that are Mormon (some of those friendships began when I was a teenager & continue to this day) are all very good people. I believe they are misguided, but that doesn’t mean they’re bad people.

Once upon a time the Mother of one of my oldest friends, the first friend I had that was Mormon, told me about a conversation she herself had had with a Catholic priest. She quoted him as saying “Well, you know, either we’re right or your right, but no one else is right.” And I believe that’s true. Of course I believe the Catholic Church is right, otherwise I suppose I’d be a Mormon .

I’ve found that a lot of Mormons posting to this forum cannot answer basic questions about their religion, that I often know more about it than they do, and take any questioning of details as a personal attack. All too often everything is personalized, which is unfortunate. More productive discussions could perhaps come out of a situation where Mormons did not take questions about their religion as some sort of personal attack.

I suppose I return from time to time in hopes that someday there will be someone with whom to discuss the faith who is knowledgeable, mature, and does not personalize every exchange. All too often one or more of those elements is missing and any discussion quickly goes off-track.

Thank you for your reply!
Annie

 

[Annie_B]

I became interested in Mormons because of a relative whom I care about. She told me about many things, and so I became curious. Like, what is this with the caffeine, and the getting selected or called to do things you’d never chose for yourself, etc. Also, having different religions in the family makes strange tensions. This creates a desire to understand or erase them if you can (but you can’t really, but you desire to, so you have motivation to look into it). How can I not care about things that affect my family?

Thank you for your reply! And btw - caffeine is allowed; coffe and tea are not. That is the official teaching.

Annie

 

[Pug]

Thank you for your reply! And btw - caffeine is allowed; coffe and tea are not. That is the official teaching.

Annie

Sorry to be confusing about the caffeine thing. It is because years ago my relative would not keep colas in the house with caffeine, and so I came to think it was about caffeine, since that was how she phrased it. I still tend to think that way, even though now she will keep colas in the house with caffeine in them. Just a relic of my past (or, my relative’s past).

 

[MelanieAnne]

Sorry to be confusing about the caffeine thing. It is because years ago my relative would not keep colas in the house with caffeine, and so I came to think it was about caffeine, since that was how she phrased it. I still tend to think that way, even though now she will keep colas in the house with caffeine in them. Just a relic of my past (or, my relative’s past).

This has something that evolved over time. Back when I was a teenager, the Mormon kids wouldn’t drink Coke or Pepsi. And Coffee and Tea were not allowed, EVER. Even if caffeine was never discussed, this seemed to be the underlying problem with certain beverages.

These days, you normally will not see sodas brought to a Mormon gathering that contain caffeine, but lots of Mormons privately consume plenty of sodas with caffeine. I’ve even witnessed a Mormon that holds a Temple Recommend drink iced tea, which I can only assume because the thing that is forbidden is “hot” drinks ~ so, at least in her mind iced tea was not a violation of that rule. I’d say that these days there’s a lot of personal choice on how to follow this particular “word of wisdom”.

 

[Annie_B]

This has something that evolved over time. Back when I was a teenager, the Mormon kids wouldn’t drink Coke or Pepsi. And Coffee and Tea were not allowed, EVER. Even if caffeine was never discussed, this seemed to be the underlying problem with certain beverages.

These days, you normally will not see sodas brought to a Mormon gathering that contain caffeine, but lots of Mormons privately consume plenty of sodas with caffeine. I’ve even witnessed a Mormon that holds a Temple Recommend drink iced tea, which I can only assume because the thing that is forbidden is “hot” drinks ~ so, at least in her mind iced tea was not a violation of that rule. I’d say that these days there’s a lot of personal choice on how to follow this particular “word of wisdom”.

Years ago, our branch president brought us dinner because we were moving and all dishes were packed etc…He brought sodas with dinner; bot those with caffeine and those without…

Annie

 

[dolphinlove]

I like poking around in the mormon forums cause zer gives me a good belly laugh, if im not feeling in such a great mood or just feel down, i come on here, read the stuff he posts, and lead me to have a great laugh…

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

I was just wondering why other Catholics here at CA view and respond to “Mormon” topic threads? It seems that a few are sincerely interested in intelligent exchange, and it also seems that others are here to “bash”…What brings YOU here to the Mormon topics?

Annie

To learn of the new tactics that Mormons use to attack the catholic faith, I have learned of the cunning and back door approach from Mormons here CAF. To be updated of Mormon new and everchanging theology. To expose their false teachings about an apostate christian church, that invalidly proves their reason for (existance) defecting from protestantism, which seperated from catholicism. I find Mormons very intellectual, and are very close cousins to the adventist groups, who tend to focus on their own intellectual understandings of scripture, and seperate themselves further and further away from the Love of God, and the spiritual realities that give life to the soul. This knowledge of the mind seems to occupy them more than the spiritual realities of God, to which he has revealed to his body on earth.

I like Mormons, but I dont understand why their understanding of scripture keeps them from learning and understanding the already revealed teachings of Jesus Christ, and want to reinvent a new Jesus theology from the mind and not the heart? Are we not suppose to love God with all our heart, mind and soul?

Peace be with you

 

[Jerusha]

Annie, I really appreciate you and Bart, because of your realization that bitterness against Mormonism is not justified, that the errors of their doctrines and other literature is the problem, not Mormons as a whole. Their persecution complex should not be fed. They should learn to not take criticism of their beliefs seriously. It is a difficult lesson for those of us who have had a long journey to overcome bitterness.

Catholics as a whole have not examined the deceptions of LDS, and are only now coming to a realization of how far out it is. There is a lot of curiousity about the curiousity which is Mormonism.

 

[Carl_Nicholas]

Good morning Annie B,
Thought I would give my 2 cents.

To read threads, digest responses( from the back and forth of catholics and non catholics) is not only very interesting, but allows us all to reflect on our personal journeys of where we are now, where we might have come from.

To never hear the stance of our brothers and sisters in Christ, or to not have any flavor of where they come from , in my humble opinion, does not allow us the ability to lovingly converse with them in a respectfull and meaningfull way.

God bless,
Carl

 

[majick275]

i’m late to the dance i see. (story of my life lol)

I grew up LDS. i was a counselor in the bishopric and a veil worker at the temple when i left. if there are mormons who feel the call to Gods church then I figure some may come here and i especially want to help them in their journey.

Sometimes Catholics are in situations where they have questions about mormons and they ask them HERE instead of an LDS site because either they want answered in catholic terms so that they can understand it better and/or they don’t want the missionary spin, testimony bearing, conversion attempts, etc. I am here to answer their questions.

As a believing catholic, loyal to the magisterium i wish to protect the church from spiritual “wolves”. LDS wannabe missionaries seem to come here trolling for converts. that’s when the “bashing” occurs. like scientologists they try the milk before meat and some even believe the whitewashed, faith promoting, revisionist history that pervades newer LDS teaching materials and thus make it difficult to get a true picture of what’s going on. I jump in to provide the truth when these types begin to propagate inaccurate accounts of LDS doctrine, history, practices, etc. I will not allow LDS to proselytize here unchallenged. just as they teach that we are so apostate as to possess no sacramental grace whatsoever in our church, i believe that they are so deep in heresy as to be spreading spiritual poison with theirs. they have their own sites to preach from to those who actively seek after mormon teachings. this is a catholic site and LDS who seek converts here SHOULD be challenged with the truth. so i come to defend the faith in those situations.

 

[Jerusha]

They should learn to not take criticism of their beliefs personally. .

Correction.

 

[zerinus]

I was just wondering why other Catholics here at CA view and respond to “Mormon” topic threads? It seems that a few are sincerely interested in intelligent exchange, and it also seems that others are here to “bash”…What brings YOU here to the Mormon topics?

Annie

I will tell you why that is a dumb question. Those “Mormon” topic threads are nearly always started Catholics like you—like this one—not by Mormons. So perhaps you should ask yourself the question—why do you start “Mormon” topics threads? LOL!

zerinus

 

[BartBurk]

I was just wondering why other Catholics here at CA view and respond to “Mormon” topic threads? It seems that a few are sincerely interested in intelligent exchange, and it also seems that others are here to “bash”…What brings YOU here to the Mormon topics?

Annie

Because I used to be Mormon before I was Catholic. I don’t know near as much about other Christian traditions as I do about Mormonism. I feel like I can discuss it intelligently although Mormons may not agree!

 

[Jerusha]

I was raised Catholic, in Hancock County Illinois. We ignored the Mormons, regarded them as somewhat of a nuisance. After many struggles in my life, I finally asked some questions, and got some answers. Apparently, LDS people have some deep-seated prejudices against me because of my ancestry-- you see, some of my ancestors were on the “other side” in the war in that area (1844 to 1849). Plus, I am about 1/4 Native, from two tribes that had the courage to tell them that their book was BS.

 

[Annie_B]

I like poking around in the mormon forums cause zer gives me a good belly laugh, if im not feeling in such a great mood or just feel down, i come on here, read the stuff he posts, and lead me to have a great laugh…

Thanks for you reply. However, I personally find no humor in something that is so importatn to some people. But, to each his/her own…

Annie

 

[Carl_Nicholas]

I will tell you why that is a dumb question. Those “Mormon” topic threads are nearly always started Catholics like you—like this one—not by Mormons. So perhaps you should ask yourself the question—why do you start “Mormon” topics threads? LOL!

zerinus

Hi Zerinus,
what difference does it make who starts a thread??
the content of info ( back and forth ) should be what is of value

These discussions could have real benefit to ALL who may run across them.

It would also seem to me that these threads ( that seem to anger you ) should allow you an opportunity to voice your beliefs with countless christians)

God bless
Carl

 

[Annie_B]

I will tell you why that is a dumb question. Those “Mormon” topic threads are nearly always started Catholics like you—like this one—not by Mormons. So perhaps you should ask yourself the question—why do you start “Mormon” topics threads? LOL!

zerinus

no need to be so rude.