What is the trend about mortifications

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I read a little about St-Rose of Lima, and it had a lot of mortification. I know it’s a tabou subject. And it should never be done to ourselves and bla bla. And a priest rescently said: “We should avoid at all cost sufferance”. Wel my question is not about sufferance, but mortification. I saw ALOT of saint that did it. And a lot that are not saint and did not do it.

Recently pope Benedict said: “We have to discover the meaning of penance again in the church”.

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I’ll share how I practice mortification. Recently I was praying much for particular people, and along with my prayers for them, for about six weeks I did not have any cake, cookies, or candy. These are treats and my body does not need them. It did help me to focus better on my prayer, and I will soon do that again.

What is not encouraged are things that used to be common in religious orders. (maybe some still are, with the direction of a spiritual director). We are not to use hair shirts, or use forms of mortification that would cause physical harm or psychological distress.

A priest whose specialty is spiritual formation says that it is more meritorious to us to accept without complaint the normal inconveniences we endure every day. Those are the mortifications that God chooses for us. (flat tire, burned food, plans changed because someone needs us, etc.)

At times it can be pride when a person decides on certain difficult physical mortifications and then feels pleased with him/herself because of it.
 
RE: answer from Dorothy about self mortification–

Well said, thank you. This advice could be used in countless ways–God bless you:)
 
Ave Maria, I have read a lot about Saints, From what I understand they would practice mortification to unite themselves in their suffering to Christ but also to overcome the weakness of the flesh and our vices. Many we’re tormented by the devil.To give up things we like, is that more in regards to self denial? Where as mortification is more severe! I struggle with self denial,As I am weak. I have not practiced any form of “severe self discipline.” Is it enough to just give up the things we desire? Or is the only way to become a “Saint” through suffering? Is being hungry, or cold or poor enough? I hope so as I don’t think I could wear a hair shirt or practice any other form of severe self discipline. What are your thoughts? Respectfully yours
 
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Ave Maria, I have read a lot about Saints, From what I understand they would practice mortification to unite themselves in their suffering to Christ but also to overcome the weakness of the flesh and our vices. Many we’re tormented by the devil.To give up things we like, is that more in regards to self denial? Where as mortification is more severe! I struggle with self denial,As I am weak. I have not practiced any form of “severe self discipline.” Is it enough to just give up the things we desire? Or is the only way to become a “Saint” through suffering? Is being hungry, or cold or poor enough? I hope so as I don’t think I could wear a hair shirt or practice any other form of severe self discipline. What are your thoughts? Respectfully yours
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I climbed stairs of Oratory St-Joseph of MontRoyal on my knells, a hail Mary on each. There was a lot of pain, by at the end, I felt many of my spiritual torments where gone, and I was back in good order with God. I also did it for the church, for the problems of sexual disorder of priests, and what they cause to people and to the church and to the pope and cardinals that have to deal with that.
 
Bodily mortification is an age old practice in the Church. From little things to more difficult things.

(Of course one must be prudent and particularly with some forms one needs the direction of say a confessor or spiritual director.)
 
Fatima is not 100 years old yet.
“Many souls goes in hell, because no one do penance and pray for them”.

Look like there is something we are missing.

And abouy war in Syria, the same message is valid: there will be no peace without prayer.
 
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Fatima is not 100 years old yet.
“Many souls goes in hell, because no one do penance and pray for them”.

Look like there is something we are missing.

And abouy war in Syria, the same message is valid: there will be no peace without prayer.
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yes penance and mortification is part of Christian life.

Pope Francis has proclaimed a day of prayer and fasting next Saturday for Peace in Syria et al.
 
RayonGama said:
I read a little about St-Rose of Lima, and it had a lot of mortification. I know it’s a tabou subject. And it should never be done to ourselves and bla bla. And a priest rescently said: “We should avoid at all cost sufferance”. Wel my question is not about sufferance, but mortification. I saw ALOT of saint that did it. And a lot that are not saint and did not do it.

Recently pope Benedict said: “We have to discover the meaning of penance again in the church”.

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What is your question?
 
RayonGama said:
I read a little about St-Rose of Lima, and it had a lot of mortification. I know it’s a tabou subject. And it should never be done to ourselves and bla bla. And a priest rescently said: “We should avoid at all cost sufferance”. Wel my question is not about sufferance, but mortification. I saw ALOT of saint that did it. **And a lot that are not saint and did not do it. **
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Be careful with your thought here. We have no way of knowing anything about the lost and their spiritual practices. We only know that there are Saints through the Church. She is silent when it comes to the damned.

Setting time aside to pray and do charity is difficult enough for most in the active life. Start there and talk to a priest if you feel drawn to more extreme practices.
 
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