What is the very least I can do and still make it to heaven?

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Quite. But, what all does such belief entail? Mere mental assent or more? And if more, why and according to whom? That is the question before us. šŸ™‚
I took the question to be to give the most basic of answers. I may have misread it.
 
I agree with the posts that say this question is faulty as the OP acknowledged.

Still, Fr. Corapi says ā€œLove of God is ideal, but in the absence of that, fear of hell is a nice start.ā€

So, at the very very minimum, we must at least say NO to satan/hell.
 
Know God, love Him and serve Him in this world, to be happy with Him in the next. That’s why we were created.
 
If you wish to understand what you must do to get to heaven I can’t think of a better passage than Matthew Chapter 20 verses 16 through 22.

The message here is that there is no minimum. The call to Salvation and Holiness is a journey that requires greater and greater work and sacrifices. We all travel at different speeds and and various paths, and attain different levels of spirituality and we all fail in some way, but the minute we become complacent or say we’ve done all that is required, we risk losing our salvation.

Whenever Jesus saw a hint of complacency he always asked for more. He would never let his disciples ā€œrest on their laurelsā€.

James
 
I am greatly offended at this question and its implication toward protestants.

Being saved doesn’t mean you can forget about God and get on with your worldly life!!!

On the contrary, God begins to change your life. You begin to lose your desire for worldly things and your focus becomes more and more on the things of God.

It’s not out of duty or responsibility. It is not because you are supposed to… It is a desire that comes from within.

Are there no really no Catholics who understand what I am saying?

Did any Catholic ever experience that moment of change when you finally understood, and began to long for God with your whole heart and soul? I mean REALLY long for Him - for His will to be fulfilled thru you. To be able to give something back to Him.

All my life I believed and I did what I was supposed to. But there were specific stepping stones that I can look back on and see clearly how God has conducted my life despite my stupidity and brought me to understanding and desire for Him. God has changed me from the inside out.

Tell me your story. I long to hear what God has done for you. I don’t want to hear about your traditions and rituals. I want to hear how God has changed you.

Anyone, anyone at all. Boast to me of the Lord’s power and mercy.

PM me. I don’t wish to derail this thread.
 
I am greatly offended at this question and its implication toward protestants.

Being saved doesn’t mean you can forget about God and get on with your worldly life!!!

On the contrary, God begins to change your life. You begin to lose your desire for worldly things and your focus becomes more and more on the things of God.

It’s not out of duty or responsibility. It is not because you are supposed to… It is a desire that comes from within.

Are there no really no Catholics who understand what I am saying?

Did any Catholic ever experience that moment of change when you finally understood, and began to long for God with your whole heart and soul? I mean REALLY long for Him - for His will to be fulfilled thru you. To be able to give something back to Him.

All my life I believed and I did what I was supposed to. But there were specific stepping stones that I can look back on and see clearly how God has conducted my life despite my stupidity and brought me to understanding and desire for Him. God has changed me from the inside out.

Tell me your story. I long to hear what God has done for you. I don’t want to hear about your traditions and rituals. I want to hear how God has changed you.

Anyone, anyone at all. Boast to me of the Lord’s power and mercy.

PM me. I don’t wish to derail this thread.
Ginger,

I am sorry that your are offended by the thread.
I had not read anything in it that really seemed to be blanketly offensive, but that may just be me.

Anyway, I think you have a very fine idea for a thread so I am going to start a seperate thread for this. (I hope you don’t mind)
I will title it ā€œShare your ā€˜Moment of Change’.ā€

Thanks
James
 
Did any Catholic ever experience that moment of change when you finally understood, and began to long for God with your whole heart and soul? I mean REALLY long for Him - for His will to be fulfilled thru you. To be able to give something back to Him.
Just name a few - I have a book of 500 Saints who gave their heart and soul to serve Him. You might want to get this kind of book and read about them, then you know who they were and what you could learn from them.

For Catholics, one of the most valuable treasures is the lives of the canonized Saints.
 
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That is fantastic! šŸ‘

One time I was shocked by the things someone was saying.

I asked, ā€œDon’t you fear God?ā€

She replied, ā€œI trust God to deal with me fairly.ā€

I said, ā€œFairly! I’m praying for mercy!ā€
 
Sure, Ginger. Catholics take to heart the words of Jesus. When asked what one had to do to be saved, He told us to love the love thy God with thy whole heart, thy whole soul, and thy whole mind, and to love thy neighbor as thysef.

We take that seriously. Unlike Luther who didn’t believe in the freedom of the will, we believe in actual and sanctifying grace, and follow the command to take up our cross, and follow Jesus.

It seems you forget we have the image and example of thousands of canonized saints before us, who we can imitate in their love and desire for the Lord. We believe in good works, and we believe in sanctity, and we strive for it each day.

Fortunately for us, Jesus gave to his Church the Sacraments as means and instruments to reach our goals. The Eucharist is our means to bring Jesus physically into our hearts and souls.

It is the beginning of our real worship, and the end as well.

peace
 
What is the very least I can do and still make it to heaven?
The very least? Put off baptism until just before death. The tricky part is getting the timing just right. Are you sure you would want to try it?
 
I’m not asking this question myself. I’m actually assuming that any Christian can see the wrongness of asking such a question. Yet, after reading some of the posts here and knowing a little history, it seems that this question is the primary focus of protestant theology.

Most of the sincere questions (as opposed to those that are starters for preaching at us) are along the lines of ā€œdo you really need that?ā€

Let’s look at the reformation. The ā€œpillarsā€ of the reformation all seem to have aimed not at reforming the church, but eliminating large parts of it. Sola Scriptura tries to eliminate the need for a Magesterium and Apostolic Tradition. Sola Fide tries to eliminate the need to follow Christs laws. Sola Cristos tries to eliminate preisthood and most if not all of the sacrements. Luther elimnated the Deuterocanonicals to try to eliminate purgatory.

More recent development continue this chopping away at the faith. OSAS eliminates repentance and perseverence. While the early denominations set up parallel heirarchies, Congregationalists tried to eliminate that and Non-denom’s go even further with that. Although most would refuse to admit it a lot of the most pared down churches have in practice eliminated or nearly eliminated the bible from Genesis thru Luke. Baptism is of the spirit so no water is needed. Eucharist is symbolic so you don’t really need to do it, at least not often. Etc, etc.

The development of Catholic theology is often likened to an oak growing from an acorn. A lot of the Protestant trees have been pared down to the point that they resemble telephone poles.

The one exception to this seems to be dispensationalism. Any thoughts on why those most obsessed with eliminating parts of the faith have embrased this addition most strongly?
I hardly pay that much attention to currents in Protestantism. There are so many sects and divisions, who knows what they are teaching, and believing.

I do watch a few who teaching that we are approaching some sort of millenium, and point to prophesies regarding the Jews, who seem, to them, to be still the ā€˜chosen people’.

I like the thought that the stone rejected (the Gentiles) has become the cornerstone. Christ preached on the rejection of the Jews. Talking about some mass conversion of the Jews, although something we pray for, is not a foundation of Catholicism.

I don’t spend much of my time with worrying about the 2nd coming, and the millenium, and the Rapture, and all that stuff. It is kind of like fringe Christianity to me.

peace
 
The very least? Put off baptism until just before death. The tricky part is getting the timing just right. Are you sure you would want to try it?
I was about to say something similar - Die directly after Baptism, before you have a chance to think any evil thoughts. šŸ™‚
 
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