What is the wisdom of God in feeling hunger?

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Have you ever been around someone who hasn’t suffered sufficiently? That person is usually one spoiled, selfish brat!

Often, what teaches us patience, say, is obstacles.

What teaches us to persevere is suffering. We are perfected in suffering. When we are weak, we are strong.

Kids who are rich, have everything, want for nothing, often are not very nice. They have never experienced want, suffering.

Really, I sometimes feel that we should ship them for a time to the third world, let them live in poor conditions until they can learn to appreciate what they have.

Although, I guess I should learn to appreciate what I have, too, touché.

Those seem to be assumptions. How do you know?

Define suffering. A wealthy child who never exerienced love but who has every material comfort suffers greatly.

A poor person who never experienced love and has no material comforts also suffers.

The feeling of being unloved and unwanted brings enormous suffering.

‘Brathood’ may be unrelated to wealth.

There are people who have greatly suffered and are not wealthy, yet who are miserable. And make everyone around them miserable, too. This comes from personal experience, yet I would not claim all poor suffering people are ‘brats.’

 

[BrunoMaria]

If this world really wanted God, he would intervene.

Right. But the whole - meanwhile very long thread - circles around the question if God agrees to the misery of the world. The clear answer is of course a loud NO!
I so often heard of disbelievers, and here we get into the topics here
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=843173
of how to tell people God’s truth,
that; “IF THERE WOULD BE A GOD, HE WOULDN’T ALLOW ALL THAT MISERY”
Disbelievers use it as argument for the atheist thesis THERE IS NO GOD.

Yes of course as stated here:

God, indeed, COULD have prevented ALL suffering.

But this would mean, that God would not let people be bad and do wrong and evil things. We then had no free will. Our probation on earth would be steered and controlled by God. What sense would any probation make then, if you are kind of forced to be good?!

The world is created good. It nourishes well double and three times as many, as live here on earth today, if they earn their bread in the sweat of their face - by working for it as God intended us to. It is not just fate that calls hunger and misery; it’s warlords, evil-minded and godless people as well as fanatics do not let people work for their bread and more. If people could live in peace and harmony as God intended them to live, then the whole problem would never occur. Many had to flee off their good soil through warlords and live an bad soil (so very visible in Somalia and many other countries) disregarding if they starve.
The interrogation “What is the wisdom of God in feeling hunger?” seems wrong
just like here
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=11472618#post11472618
where its askd if God can be void. Again - what a sight of God…
God never intends that we are hungry, God never causes any misery and suffering. Its the misbehavior of human kind who causes harm and sorrow only.
Those causing it all never believe in God - they never really wanted God as quoted here on top.
If God would intervene, God must take away their free will. This God won’t do. Otherwise we’d be in heaven already here on earth.
Jesus said in >Matt 18,7: It is necessary that suffering come, but woe to those by whom these temptations come!<
That all misery leads into temptation, we recognize in the interrogations that touch this complex. It’s even the main reason for disbelieve. The misery of the world is he sorrow of God - othing bad would ever come from God - it’s man-made.

Yours
Bruno

 

[Simca]

Right. But the whole - meanwhile very long thread - circles around the question if God agrees to the misery of the world. The clear answer is of course a loud NO!
I so often heard of disbelievers, and here we get into the topics here
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=843173
of how to tell people God’s truth,
that; “IF THERE WOULD BE A GOD, HE WOULDN’T ALLOW ALL THAT MISERY”
Disbelievers use it as argument for the atheist thesis THERE IS NO GOD.

Yes of course as stated here:

But this would mean, that God would not let people be bad and do wrong and evil things. We then had no free will. Our probation on earth would be steered and controlled by God. What sense would any probation make then, if you are kind of forced to be good?!

The world is created good. It nourishes well double and three times as many, as live here on earth today, if they earn their bread in the sweat of their face - by working for it as God intended us to. It is not just fate that calls hunger and misery; it’s warlords, evil-minded and godless people as well as fanatics do not let people work for their bread and more. If people could live in peace and harmony as God intended them to live, then the whole problem would never occur. Many had to flee off their good soil through warlords and live an bad soil (so very visible in Somalia and many other countries) disregarding if they starve.
The interrogation “What is the wisdom of God in feeling hunger?” seems wrong
just like here
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=11472618#post11472618
where its askd if God can be void. Again - what a sight of God…
God never intends that we are hungry, God never causes any misery and suffering. Its the misbehavior of human kind who causes harm and sorrow only.
Those causing it all never believe in God - they never really wanted God as quoted here on top.
If God would intervene, God must take away their free will. This God won’t do. Otherwise we’d be in heaven already here on earth.
Jesus said in >Matt 18,7: It is necessary that suffering come, but woe to those by whom these temptations come!<
That all misery leads into temptation, we recognize in the interrogations that touch this complex. It’s even the main reason for disbelieve. The misery of the world is he sorrow of God - othing bad would ever come from God - it’s man-made.

Yours
Bruno

Hi Bruno,

I don’t know why, but your post is so small, that I can barely read it. I know it’s not something you’re doing. I am having TONS of problems with this site at the moment.

Anyhow, If I’m understanding and reading what you’re saying properly…
I read something very interesting several years ago, and it has always stuck with me. It was that God foreknew and foresaw everyone who would be created. He knew there would be those who would accept him and there would be those who would not. He greatly loved everyone, but for the sake of those who would believe and who would live forever with him in eternal joy, he weighed everything, and went ahead with his plan of creation.

I hope this is what you were asking. I don’t know if it’s ‘official church doctrine’, but it was from a Catholic source that I read it.

Love,
Simca

 

[cheezey]

God asked 2 things of us

The Two Commandments of Love

1. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.
2. You shall love your neighbour as yourself.

We are here on earth in this human life to choose the path to follow. We may choose to follow God’s commandments or ignore them…our choice.

When we find how to love our neighbour as ourself then perhaps we will achieve what God commanded.

Hunger is cruel and unfair to the many starving throughout the world including USA and UK. Our job as believers of God and or followers of Christ is to love our neighbour and help in any way we can to alleviate hunger poverty and homelessness.When we truly love our neighbour we will know and understand God’s love for us.

If we fail to love our neighbour…we fail to love God.

 

[tonyrey]

That is the result of a body placed outside its design limits (with respect to temperature).

A body simply will not hold life if placed in temperatures to hot or too cold, just as human body will cease to hold life if submerged under the ocean, etc.

There is no wisdom in death by freezing, per se. But if body’s physical limitations are a wisdom, then so is the death resulting from resisting those limitations.

ICXC NIKA

It is absurd to expect everything to go precisely to plan in an immensely complex universe.