What is True Science?

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Again, a true scientist wouldn’t say: “… that what can’t be observed, weighed, and measured cannot be true.”

He would say: "… that what can’t be observed, weighed, and measured I cannot say anything about. "

Science has nothing to do with metaphysics, world view, belief system, weltanschauung, etc. Check the internet.

And of course, any metaphysics is lost when not taking science very serious. And as I understand it, science is taken very serious at the top of the Catholic Church.

These days we witness the peculiar phenomenon that the Catholic Church, at least at the top, is more aware of the distinction between science and metaphysics than its natural opponants Dannett-Dawkins-Gould, probably making up for blunders in the past (Gallilei). While science increasingly delivers data that support the notion this universe is more than just matter moving about. I expect speaking God will turn into ‘hip’ again. Rationally and emotionally.
 
Dameedna said:
What’s the difference between true science and science?

Science is a search for truth. Religion, is an assumption of it.
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Geremia said:
St. Thomas Aquinas, a medieval doctor of the Church whose best works treat the relationship between science and religion, says in his Summa Theologica, in response to the question “Whether sacred doctrine is nobler than other sciences?”, that "Other sciences [e.g., the natural sciences] are called the handmaidens of this one : ‘Wisdom sent her maids to invite to the tower’ (Proverbs 9:3)."True science and religion, therefore, have God as their common goal.
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Benedict_Broere said:
Again, a true scientist wouldn’t say: “… that what can’t be observed, weighed, and measured cannot be true.”

He would say: "… that what can’t be observed, weighed, and measured I cannot say anything about. "
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What about theoretical sciences? String theory, as far as experimental physicists currently know, cannot “be observed, weighed, and measured.” Does that mean physicists “cannot say anything about” the mathematics that describes the universe?
 
Nepenthe said:
It’s the only kind of reason we can use to produce any meaningful empirical results in science, that’s right.
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Where does reason with which we are familiar originate, then? We humans did not invent the seeds of knowledge out of which grows our understanding, correct? This, by St. Thomas Aquinas, is interesting, related reading:
Geremia said:
St. Thomas Aquinas wrote his own De Magistro based on St. Augustine’s. Click here to read it. It sheds light on how only God is the source and teacher of knowledge, even scientific knowledge.
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Nepenthe said:
In fact, you may have indeed be acquainted with the notion that if God is really that omni-everything, outside spatiotemporality, there is nothing meaningful we can say about such a being anyway, so mh - that’s what religion and stuff is for, I guess, but not science. In its way, that is a very disciplined viewpoint indeed.
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That God exists purely “outside spatiotemporality” sic] is not theistic but deistic. Catholics believe in the theistic God who does not just set up the initial conditions of the “universe machine” and leave it alone. God penetrates reality to its core everyday; sicut erat in principio et nunc and semper et in saecula saeculorum (“as it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be, world without end”).
 
Stringtheory until now hardly is seen as science.

Quarks can’t be seen, but they can be investigated. Billions are invested for that, and several of the most brilliant minds in the world.

There is a general concensus on science worldwide, and the definition of what science is can be found on dozens of places on the internet.
 
What about theoretical sciences?
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If it’s science, it is based on evidence. Evidence is something that can be observed and measured.
String theory, as far as experimental physicists currently know, cannot “be observed, weighed, and measured.”
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It would seem then, to be a hypothesis, which has been successful in explaining phenomena. There is this:

Through this relationship, string theory has been shown to be related to gauge theories like quantum chromodynamics and this has led to more quantitative understanding of the behavior of hadrons, bringing string theory back to its roots.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

Usefulness is a good quality for a theory, but it seems to me that observational confirmation remains to be found, which is needed for a proper theory. But then I don’t understand string theory very well, so I could be missing something.
 
Science (scientia) is knowledge, and the highest accumulation of knowledge is wisdom, and wisdom is the science of the Catholic Church. Wisdom is attained on four levels of knowing. Beginning with the lowest value of knowledge and rising to the highest level, these grades are, (1): knowledge of the simple building blocks of the world surmised through the senses, something even animals are capable of; level (2): knowledge ascertained by observation and experiment, critically tested, systematised and brought under general principles (empirical science), reserved of course to man; level (3): knowledge acquired through philosophy, the search for causes by reason, and level (4): comprehension from theology, our understanding of things from both reason and revelation of God, and how He relates to the universe and man.
 
Sounds good, but #2 is not limited to man. Apes and some other animals like elephants, are known to be able to do those things.
 
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