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sonseeker
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Augustine
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christopher754
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St. John Chrysostom
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Apolonio
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Augustine, Origen, and Maximus the Confesor
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FuzzyBunny116
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Are you guys CRAZY?!? St. Ignatius of Antioch answers Protestants 1400 years before they came around. Whenever I look at the tracts at CA, hes always the first Father on the list, and practically spells out whatever I believe in for me.
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philipmarus
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!. Ignatius of Antioch
2. Justin
The Didache, the writings of Ignatius and Justin were the primary catalyst for my complete acceptance the truth of the Catholic Faith.
Prior to returning to the Church as revert I attended a Evangelical Non-Denomination church which taught a Great Apostasy theory that the “Roman Catholic Church” was founded by Emperor Constantine around 313 A.D.
I principally concentrated my subsequent study primarily on the Eucharist and these writings point to the truth of Catholicism at very early dates. St. Ignatius makes sharp barbs against the heretics who “abstain from the Eucharist because they do not confess that Eucharist is the Flesh of our savior” and Justin’s visual description of an early Mass and his explanation that the Eucharist was not to be received as common bread. In addition the Didache (Circa 70 A.D) speaks of the Eucharist as a sacrifice quoting Malachi 1:11 not a mere memorial.
These three had most profound effect on me as well as John 6; 1 Cor 11:26.
2. Justin
The Didache, the writings of Ignatius and Justin were the primary catalyst for my complete acceptance the truth of the Catholic Faith.
Prior to returning to the Church as revert I attended a Evangelical Non-Denomination church which taught a Great Apostasy theory that the “Roman Catholic Church” was founded by Emperor Constantine around 313 A.D.
I principally concentrated my subsequent study primarily on the Eucharist and these writings point to the truth of Catholicism at very early dates. St. Ignatius makes sharp barbs against the heretics who “abstain from the Eucharist because they do not confess that Eucharist is the Flesh of our savior” and Justin’s visual description of an early Mass and his explanation that the Eucharist was not to be received as common bread. In addition the Didache (Circa 70 A.D) speaks of the Eucharist as a sacrifice quoting Malachi 1:11 not a mere memorial.
These three had most profound effect on me as well as John 6; 1 Cor 11:26.
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Newvert
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Had to say “other” - Cyril of Jerusalem. Love his teachings on the Eucharist and the Church. I also believe he was the first
“Do not, therefore, regard the bread and wine as simply that, for they are, according to the Master’s declaration, the Body and Blood of Christ. Even though the senses suggest to you the other, let faith make you firm. Do not judge in this matter by taste, but be fully assured by faith, not doubting that you have been deemed worthy of the Body and Blood of Christ.” – St. Cyril of Jerusalem, ibid. 4, 22, 6 (c. 350 AD).
“He Himself, therefore, having declared and said of the Bread, ‘This is My Body,’ who will dare any longer to doubt? And when He Himself has affirmed and said, ‘This is My Blood,’ who can ever hesitate and say it is not His Blood?” – St. Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures: Mystagogic 4, 22, 1 (c. 350 AD).
“Having learnt these things, and been fully assured that the seeming bread is not bread, though sensible to taste, but the Body of Christ; and that the seeming wine is not wine, though the taste will have it so, but the Blood of Christ: and that of this David sung of old, saying, ‘And bread strengthens man’s heart, to make his face to shine with oil’ (Ps. 103:15), strengthen your heart by partaking thereof as spiritual, and make the face of your soul to shine.” – St. Cyril of Jerusalem, Catecheses, 22:9 (c. 350 AD).
“[The Church] is called Catholic, then, because it extends over the whole world, from end to end of the earth, and because it teaches universally and infallibly each and every doctrine which must come to the knowledge of men, concerning things visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly, and because it brings every race of men into subjection to godliness, governors and governed, learned and unlearned, and because it universally treats and heals every class of sins, those committed with the soul and those with the body, and it possesses within itself every conceivable form of virtue, in deeds and in words and in the spiritual gifts of every description” (Catechetical Lectures 18:23 [A.D. 350]).
“And if you ever are visiting in cities, do not inquire simply where the house of the Lord is–for the others, sects of the impious, attempt to call their dens ‘houses of the Lord’–nor ask merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the name peculiar to this holy Church, the Mother of us all, which is the Spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God” (ibid., 18:26).
“Do not, therefore, regard the bread and wine as simply that, for they are, according to the Master’s declaration, the Body and Blood of Christ. Even though the senses suggest to you the other, let faith make you firm. Do not judge in this matter by taste, but be fully assured by faith, not doubting that you have been deemed worthy of the Body and Blood of Christ.” – St. Cyril of Jerusalem, ibid. 4, 22, 6 (c. 350 AD).
“He Himself, therefore, having declared and said of the Bread, ‘This is My Body,’ who will dare any longer to doubt? And when He Himself has affirmed and said, ‘This is My Blood,’ who can ever hesitate and say it is not His Blood?” – St. Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures: Mystagogic 4, 22, 1 (c. 350 AD).
“Having learnt these things, and been fully assured that the seeming bread is not bread, though sensible to taste, but the Body of Christ; and that the seeming wine is not wine, though the taste will have it so, but the Blood of Christ: and that of this David sung of old, saying, ‘And bread strengthens man’s heart, to make his face to shine with oil’ (Ps. 103:15), strengthen your heart by partaking thereof as spiritual, and make the face of your soul to shine.” – St. Cyril of Jerusalem, Catecheses, 22:9 (c. 350 AD).
“[The Church] is called Catholic, then, because it extends over the whole world, from end to end of the earth, and because it teaches universally and infallibly each and every doctrine which must come to the knowledge of men, concerning things visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly, and because it brings every race of men into subjection to godliness, governors and governed, learned and unlearned, and because it universally treats and heals every class of sins, those committed with the soul and those with the body, and it possesses within itself every conceivable form of virtue, in deeds and in words and in the spiritual gifts of every description” (Catechetical Lectures 18:23 [A.D. 350]).
“And if you ever are visiting in cities, do not inquire simply where the house of the Lord is–for the others, sects of the impious, attempt to call their dens ‘houses of the Lord’–nor ask merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the name peculiar to this holy Church, the Mother of us all, which is the Spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God” (ibid., 18:26).
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john_ennis
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Me too.
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Chazemataz
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Wow. I never knew that there were two Ignatius’s. The Catholic Church was in good hands I can tell you that, LOL!
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Roman_Army
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Interesting. It would be cool to hand out copies of writings from the early Church fathers to protestants. That way instead of them taking it as modern Catholic propaganda, they’ll take it as a faithfull man from the past prior to protestantism is talking to them. I’m sure protestants have more sympathy for the early faithful Christians and would be more willing to listen to them.I like St. Ignatius simply because his writings are so full of answers to protestant objections to the Catholic faith. He answers questions about heresies that have not even come into existance yet. There is nothing new (as in heresies) under the sun!!! I have discovered that letting the Fathers speak for themselves works better than most of us trying to explain or defend the faith. They are a treasure that we use unfortunatly to little. Use them any chance you get!!
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