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gurneyhalleck1
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I think a Protestant answer would probably be that works are demonstrations of a lively faith but it is not the works of supererogation that save the Christian. The works are obviously evidence of sanctification in the life of the believer, a good and laudable thing. A person with faith usually demonstrates a lively faith and growing relationship with Christ but it is not the works that save but the atonement of Jesus Christ on the Cross who took the place of the sinner as the Law was nailed to the Cross.
Also, I don’t know why you’re calling Protestants “protestors” and suddenly coming to the conclusion that Protestants haven’t read James? What leads you to that assumption. The Protestants I know in here and have come to really respect know the New Testament better than myself. They know James but came to a different conclusion than you I would venture to say, respectfully.
And also why are you mentioning tearing out books of the Bible? What has that to do with indulgences? Seems off-topic?
To answer your question about what good are works, I’d say as I stated earlier that the Protestant view is that they are evidence or the eventual result of justification. Protestants view justification as the first fruits, sanctification as the result of said justification. Catholics believe sanctification leads to justification. The two are quite different. So, from the Protestant viewpoint, works are not what saves but are the fingerprints of a believer’s walk with Christ. Any Protestants can correct me if I’m wrong in my statement.
Also, I don’t know why you’re calling Protestants “protestors” and suddenly coming to the conclusion that Protestants haven’t read James? What leads you to that assumption. The Protestants I know in here and have come to really respect know the New Testament better than myself. They know James but came to a different conclusion than you I would venture to say, respectfully.
And also why are you mentioning tearing out books of the Bible? What has that to do with indulgences? Seems off-topic?
To answer your question about what good are works, I’d say as I stated earlier that the Protestant view is that they are evidence or the eventual result of justification. Protestants view justification as the first fruits, sanctification as the result of said justification. Catholics believe sanctification leads to justification. The two are quite different. So, from the Protestant viewpoint, works are not what saves but are the fingerprints of a believer’s walk with Christ. Any Protestants can correct me if I’m wrong in my statement.
Since this thread is such a romp through the woods, I have to ask my protesting friends if they have ever read the epistle of James in the New Testament?
They’re foaming at the mouth, again, about a “works” gospel, but my Bible says that faith without words IS DEAD.
DEAD? DEADLY? Got it?
As usual, the protestors jump the train off the tracks because they haven’t read that, if anything, FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.
“Works” must be important for some reason. I wonder what it is? NOT so that any man can boast, that’s for certain, for the NT says that, too.
OK, I’ll draw a line in the sand, too, and ask anybody what are good works FOR? if anything? MUST BE BIG, if it’s in the NT? NO? You’ve got 12 to 14 hours for that, too.
AGAIN, I ask that lifelong question of mine, WHICH PAGES OF THE BIBLE AM I SUPPOSED TO TEAR OUT, NOW? AND WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TELL ME TO DO IT?