What is your opinion on Traditionalism?

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What is your opinion on Traditionalism?
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Tradotionalists are people with opinions. They seem to be well read but have too much opinions. But then again aren’t we all like that!
Seriously, the church coffee after Mass they talk as if they are right and the Novus ordo- people are somewhat wrong.
 
TheMortenBay said:
And that’s too bad, really. But I think as a self-styled Traditionalist there is name calling and pride on both sides.

We get it with the pharisee and the publican already. 😅 People just need to remember the thing about the branches and eyes, too:eyes:
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Well, I hope not. There really shouldn’t be “sides” at all. As I said, I generally prefer more traditional practices myself, but the problem with “Traditionalism” comes when people disparage the ordinary form or those who attend it. (I have occasionally also heard comments from non-traditionalist Catholics expressing wonder or disparagement that some prefer the older Latin Mass or the old customs that they thought went away with Vatican II. This is likewise wrong. But the OP did ask specifically about Traditionalism.)
 
No, I only meant to compare the disdain for receiving other valid ways with the disdain for not getting circumcised.

Edit: I receive on the tongue myself. I also genuflect as the person ahead of me receives. These are just what I like to do, and what is a familiar form of reverence to me. I wouldn’t say that I refuse to receive any other way though when I know other ways are okay.
 
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Yep. I feel the same about progressive or ‘OF’ Catholics. Absolutely wonderful except when they start spouting off that vernacular is the greatest thing since sliced bread, scoff at people ‘getting anything out of Latin’, sneer at ‘nostalgia’ while themselves still using the same felt banners, 70s music, and cheesy clip art that hasn’t changed in 50 years and get absolutely militant in judging that the EF not only is ‘inferior’ but was actually abrogated and 'only put back in for SSPX by a wrong decision of Pope Benedict" etc.
 
Bill6 said:
Do you identify as a Traditionalist? If so, why? If not, why not? What is your opinion on Traditionalism?
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I am a traditional Catholic. I was raised a traditional Catholic, even though we did not have a TLM. Every Sunday we were up and at Mass at 8am at a quiet orthodox Mass run by very good priests.

Despite having been away from the Church for awhile, upon returning being a traditional Catholic is me. This is what I learned growing up. This is who I am. It is where God has led me. This is the faith I know.
 
I wish it wouldn’t happen though. If only people could say,
“I like traditional things”
or
“I like the style since Vatican 2”

Without feeling as though when they share things that appeal to them, whether it’s something that is called traditional or something called modern, some yahoo is going to immediately denigrate their choices.

All it takes is somebody to say the words “traditional” or “modern” and somebody has has to jump in with,
Well those people are ok as long as they don’t get uppity and pretend they are as good or better than that style that “I” like.

It’s always ‘attitude’ and anecdotes too. Somehow that is supposed to indicate a thing’s worth today. Unreal.
 
I do identify as being traditional in my thinking in Church matters. Because I believe all that the Church teaches. I believe in Tradition, doing things the Traditional way after all it produced many Saints over time.

Quoting Archbishop Sample “what was once beautiful and considered sacred for all those centuries cannot suddenly become unsacred or worse yet, harmful.”
 
MagdalenaRita said:
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Bill6:
Do you identify as a Traditionalist? If so, why? If not, why not? What is your opinion on Traditionalism?
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I am a traditional Catholic. I was raised a traditional Catholic, even though we did not have a TLM. Every Sunday we were up and at Mass at 8am at a quiet orthodox Mass run by very good priests.
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That exactly reflects my upbringing as well except I have never veered off into anti VII in later life.
MagdalenaRita said:
Despite having been away from the Church for awhile, upon returning being a traditional Catholic is me. This is what I learned growing up. This is who I am. It is where God has led me. This is the faith I know.
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But I still identify as ‘traditional’ for being a child of the living Church headed by the Pope. I am aghast that so many modern Catholics claim ‘traditionalism’ but are daily critical of our Pope and our Church. That to me is the whole essence of Protestantism. They only believe in their own authority to judge what is the Church.
 
I don’t know many people who like tradition in the Church but are ‘critical of Pope Francis’. In fact, when it comes to ‘flesh and blood;’ people like that, I don’t know ANY. And what does 'our Church" mean? A Catholic going to an EF Mass is just as much part of “our Church” as a Catholic going to an OF Mass. . .

Now I do know a lot of modern Catholics who claim to be “Catholic” but who are critical of other Catholics, and Pope Benedict, or Pope Pius X, or Pope St. Paul VI, and Pope St. John Paul II. So it looks like there can be more than one group of, um, Protestants out there.
 
I like some things from the past, but I wouldn’t call myself traditional.
 
stpurl said:
I don’t know many people who like tradition in the Church but are ‘critical of Pope Francis’. In fact, when it comes to ‘flesh and blood;’ people like that, I don’t know ANY. And what does 'our Church" mean? A Catholic going to an EF Mass is just as much part of “our Church” as a Catholic going to an OF Mass. . .

Now I do know a lot of modern Catholics who claim to be “Catholic” but who are critical of other Catholics, and Pope Benedict, or Pope Pius X, or Pope St. Paul VI, and Pope St. John Paul II. So it looks like there can be more than one group of, um, Protestants out there.
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I agree. Liberal Catholics have rejected Popes teachings on many things most notably contraception and fornication. But this thread asked about Traditionalism.
 
Emeraldlady said:
I agree. Liberal Catholics have rejected Popes teachings on many things most notably contraception and fornication.
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The ready availability of oral contraceptives pre-dates Vatican II, and fornication dates far earlier (perhaps most notably in the scripture to King David).

So the claim that “liberal Catholics” (whatever or whoever that is) contraception and fornication is a rejection of Church teaching by the “modern” Church (another thing that does not exist), is unfair, uncharitable, and offensive, not to mention untrue.
 
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