What is your opinion towards premarital sex

[jmcrae]

I think, therefore, that outside of the Catholic Church and Christianity, the only marriage ceremony really needed is the conjugal act done with the right frame of mind, for the right reasons, and the right intentions.

Outside of the Catholic Church, and outside of religion itself, marriage is still a social contract, and for that reason, there still need to be vows taken in public before the act of sex first begins to take place.

The family is the building block of society, regardless of what religion it practices, if any.

The children who come from intact, functional two-parent family in which all are related to one another by blood through the children (and thus, instinctively protective of one another) will become the successful adults of the next generation, which will continue that society on into the future.

Because it is the future of society that is at stake, society has a stake in marriages, and has the right to know when and where they are taking place, in order to support them and provide them with essentials.

 

[TarkanAttila]

Outside of the Catholic Church, and outside of religion itself, marriage is still a social contract, and for that reason, there still need to be vows taken in public before the act of sex first begins to take place.

The family is the building block of society, regardless of what religion it practices, if any.

The children who come from intact, functional two-parent family in which all are related to one another by blood through the children (and thus, instinctively protective of one another) will become the successful adults of the next generation, which will continue that society on into the future.

Because it is the future of society that is at stake, society has a stake in marriages, and has the right to know when and where they are taking place, in order to support them and provide them with essentials.

I knew I was forgetting something. Yes, you’re right, jm, the community must know about it. It cannot be a private thing. If the conjugal act is such a good thing, how could one HELP but celebrate it with one’s friends and relatives? It’s only natural to celebrate it!

You are correct about the family and the marriage in relation to society. sigh Pity the media, the government, and the public at large don’t get that.

 

[sw85]

Can you please explain it more clearly? I don’t totally understand. Thank you.

The sexual faculty is naturally ordered toward procreation. Procreation means the creation of new life. But the duties surrounding procreation don’t end at conception. The newly created life must be cared for and provided with proper moral and social instruction. The mother must likewise be cared for during her pregnancy. Therefore the marital act necessarily speaks a language of total, perpetual, and unqualified self-giving. Therefore to have the marital act (i.e., sex) without marriage is to lie with one’s body. The act says: “I choose you to be the parent of my child, and I commit myself to the duties arising from this decision.” The will disagrees.

 

[Tomb54]

ok…Gods sending people to hell…or better we r sending ourselbes to hell cuz we have pre marital sex…with the person we then marry…this woulld be the SAME God who let his servants have multiple wives, sire kids with women other than their wives and let his servants overtake kingdoms so his servants could have he spoils…one among them their women…

Catholic are taught not to judge anyone as a person because we can never know what is in their heart and mind, but God does judge based on these things and yes we can send ourselves to Hell. And Yes the SAME God that allowed all those things still judges us on the NEW covenant that Jesus gave us that over ride what was allowed in the OT. This is brought out in the NT when Jesus tells the priests of the OT that God allowed divorce because of the lack of faith of the people then. He also told people not to fornicate as did the Apostles continually preach against this sin.

 

[TarkanAttila]

Catholic are taught not to judge anyone as a person because we can never know what is in their heart and mind, but God does judge based on these things and yes we can send ourselves to Hell. And Yes the SAME God that allowed all those things still judges us on the NEW covenant that Jesus gave us that over ride what was allowed in the OT. This is brought out in the NT when Jesus tells the priests of the OT that God allowed divorce because of the lack of faith of the people then. He also told people not to fornicate as did the Apostles continually preach against this sin.

I might add that in Luke’s Gospel, Jesus also says, in rather specific terms, if you divorce a woman and then marry someone else, you are committing adultery.

CathModerate, sounds more like CathCulpable.

 

[chain]

I’ve been thinking a lot about sex lately.

I’m beginning to think what really makes a marriage - at least, what finishes it, that is what makes it permanent - is the first sex you and your spouse have. THAT is what makes you husband and wife (not husband and husband or wife and wife).

I think there is a lot behind natural law that backs up your idea, at least in part. Biology seems to back it up with how our subconscious, triggered by chemicals, bonds. How sequential bonds tend to not be as strong as the original. I don’t know if Adam and Even needed a marriage ceremony, but then original sin came into the world - now we need all the help we can get.

I do not know if canon law generally required consummation of marriages (I would not be surprised if it is not at least a potential grounds for annulment). I think there is civil code out there that does. I recall a case where the wife of a fallen soldier (in Iraq I beleive) was denied benefits. The marriage was performed with proxies and he did not have leave to visit his wife before he was killed (even though she was the father of their child out of wedlock). But who knows, might just be an urban legend.

 

[TarkanAttila]

I think there is a lot behind natural law that backs up your idea, at least in part. Biology seems to back it up with how our subconscious, triggered by chemicals, bonds. How sequential bonds tend to not be as strong as the original. I don’t know if Adam and Even needed a marriage ceremony, but then original sin came into the world - now we need all the help we can get.

Do we even need the marriage ceremony, I wonder?
I wouldn’t turn it down, certainly not. And the help pastors often give in determining whether your potential spouse is really the one for you is most welcome. We do need all the help we can get.

But I wonder if God still smiles on those who never had a ceremony, yet have had sex, and generally get the idea of " 'til death do us part". I think he does, just as He appreciates those who follow the moral, natural law even without being a formal Catholic or Christian.

I do not know if canon law generally required consummation of marriages (I would not be surprised if it is not at least a potential grounds for annulment). I think there is civil code out there that does. I recall a case where the wife of a fallen soldier (in Iraq I beleive) was denied benefits. The marriage was performed with proxies and he did not have leave to visit his wife before he was killed (even though she was the father of their child out of wedlock). But who knows, might just be an urban legend.

IIRC, Fr. Vincent Serpa once said an unconsummated marriage definitely could be grounds for a religious annulment.

Can you get married by proxy in the Church? I dunno.

 

[tofayel]

For religious cause, I don’t support premarital sex. God give us perfect rules for our life, we should follow these rules.

 

[rugbymaycry]

I already told you my point of view and your statements are irritational and completely make “NO SENSE.”

I believe that God put both man and woman on this earth to “be fruitful and to multiply”, not just to live to gether to have fun.

No matter what you say or think, you are living in “SIN.” and you will be accountable for this on judgment day. I am not judging you, but telling you the Church’s teaching on this matter of concern.

It simply is “wrong” and you are living in sin. Ask any priest and he will assure you of the same thing.

You are of age of reason, and if you think that is right, good for you.

I am not in the position to judge anyone, but I think you know that it is sinfully wrong. I have nothing more to say because you are determined to do what you have been doing, so why even ask for opinions? May God bless you in your efforts and since our bodies our in the Holy Spirit, you are sinning against God and the Holy Spirit because our bodies are temples of the Lord. Please do not ask me to respond, because as I said previously, you have your mind determined to live this way, so why would you want my advice?

Way to be a dick Genesis. Et Cetera was just stating his opinion and you were completely ignorant to him. I support premarital sex in the same case that he did. If you are committed to one another than why is it wrong to be the 2 souls together as 1. I am new to this catholic business but it makes no sense to me that priests can rape many little boys, but gay men and lesbian females can not marry one another in the catholic church, as well as two people that are fully committed to one another can not engage in sexual intercourse. I say that it should be accepted because in my case my girlfriend is not old enough to marry in my state, but we are fully committed to each other. we had sex before my confirmation and i believe that forcing one to stop from having sex is worse than allowing people that care more about each other than most married couples do.