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to implement the changes in the new GIRM , with the further clarification given in the CDW Instruction , Redemptionis Sacarmentum

after much communication from our Bishop by the way of workshops given for every parish, the first sunday of Advent is allegedly going to be when all the changes are implemented…

i await in joyful hope that are parish will be obedient 👍
 
So what is your parish/diocese doing? The more I look into this I see that chaos is taking place throughout the US churches. People have different adaptations depending on where you are looking and what your diocese is telling you. Our biggest change was standing after the Lamb of God right through to Holy Communion. We are to remain standing until all have received and then sit. We have just a few minutes to have private reflection than its back on your feet listening to announcements and singing. Our church is telling us this is throughout the US Catholic churches and this is untrue. The GIRM tells us to do just the opposite ACCEPT “unless the bishop determines otherwise.” This is the same HUGE loop hole given when Ratzinger said “proportionate reason”. I believe that there are some that are taking what was said and distorting it to meet their own standards. As in many things there is a little truth that destorts the truth itself. For me I am obedient but kneel in my heart and offer it up for our bishops conversion and those in the Church that wish to change it from within.
 
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faithfulservant:
to implement the changes in the new GIRM , with the further clarification given in the CDW Instruction , Redemptionis Sacarmentum

after much communication from our Bishop by the way of workshops given for every parish, the first sunday of Advent is allegedly going to be when all the changes are implemented…

i await in joyful hope that are parish will be obedient 👍
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I don’t think the Diocese of Monterey (California) is doing a darned thing – other than printing some rather empty essays in our diocesan newspaper on the “year of the Eucharist” by our bishop.

The same newspaper that prints a monthly article by the most lamentable “Father” Richard McBrien…
 
Sometimes I think the US Bishops are quite ignorant about two things. The Internet and the educational level of the typical Catholic in the USA.

It really is amazing to think we can print-out the GIRM or RM (or thousands of other Catholic documents) for the price of paper and toner without leaving our homes.

I would also suggest that the educational level of the average Catholic in the USA is far higher than it was in the past. Each generation is able to study and learn just a bit more than their parents.

Combine these two and a great many more Catholics have access to and are able to fully understand what the Church directs…
 
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Crusader:
I don’t think the Diocese of Monterey (California) is doing a darned thing – other than printing some rather empty essays in our diocesan newspaper on the “year of the Eucharist” by our bishop.

The same newspaper that prints a monthly article by the most lamentable “Father” Richard McBrien…
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So have there been any changes in your mass with regards to Holy Communion? When you stand and kneel? I think it is ironic that this is the year of the Eucharist and they are trying to change our focus from the Body and Blood we receive to seeing Christ in everyone. While this is true…this is also a very intimate time to spend in private prayer.
 
Little Irish:
So have there been any changes in your mass with regards to Holy Communion? When you stand and kneel? I think it is ironic that this is the year of the Eucharist and they are trying to change our focus from the Body and Blood we receive to seeing Christ in everyone. While this is true…this is also a very intimate time to spend in private prayer.
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The only change that’s come around in these parts is that people are standing after the “Pray, bretren…”. It’s still kind of disconcerting to see people intincting their own Hosts in the Precious Blood.
 
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faithfulservant:
to implement the changes in the new GIRM , with the further clarification given in the CDW Instruction , Redemptionis Sacarmentum

after much communication from our Bishop by the way of workshops given for every parish, the first sunday of Advent is allegedly going to be when all the changes are implemented…

i await in joyful hope that are parish will be obedient 👍
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I too am in the Houston diocese but living in exile temporarily while my husband is on a project in Venezuela.

If this happens, it will be beyond my wildest expectations. Is he really going to implement both the RS AND the new GIRM? The GIRM changes were “promised” I believe for Advent of 2002 and we are still waiting.

Any idea of how the implementation will occur? I know some people who attended the workshop, and only some of the changes were discussed. BTW, we didn’t have a workshop for the parish, but were asked to send some delegates to the chancery for a workshop.

Still very good news.
 
Little Irish:
So have there been any changes in your mass with regards to Holy Communion? When you stand and kneel? I think it is ironic that this is the year of the Eucharist and they are trying to change our focus from the Body and Blood we receive to seeing Christ in everyone. While this is true…this is also a very intimate time to spend in private prayer.
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We have been instructed to stand from the Agnus Dei to the conclusion of Holy Communion. Many kneel from the end of communion to the beginning of the closing prayer.

I, along with many others kneel after receiving communion.

Others (particularly visitors) kneel during the Agnus Dei. It’s so very clear who kneel because they feel they are so “traditional”, and those who kneel because quite honestly, they would feel extremely uncomfortable not kneeling during this point of the Mass. One groups seems to try and see who is watching them, replete with a smug look on their faces, the other seems lost in thanksgiving…

My big gripe is that the celebrant often motions the faithful to sit, even though the Eucharist is not yet reposed in the tabernacle. I don’t sit until the squeaky tabernacle door closes…
 
After Communion, I remain kneeling until I’m done with my prayer, thankyouverymuch.

I don’t think that announcements about parish activities are appropriate at any point during Mass. Even after Communion.

But, nobody asked me about that. So I just continue kneeling and continuing my prayer until Father asks us to stand for the final blessing.

Hey… at your parish, does your priest say the words “the Mass is ended” before he says “go in peace to love and serve the Lord?”

I ask because I haven’t heard the words “the Mass is ended” in a few years in this diocese.
 
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Crusader:
We have been instructed to stand from the Agnus Dei to the conclusion of Holy Communion. Many kneel from the end of communion to the beginning of the closing prayer.

I, along with many others kneel after receiving communion.

Others (particularly visitors) kneel during the Agnus Dei. It’s so very clear who kneel because they feel they are so “traditional”, and those who kneel because quite honestly, they would feel extremely uncomfortable not kneeling during this point of the Mass. One groups seems to try and see who is watching them, replete with a smug look on their faces, the other seems lost in thanksgiving…

My big gripe is that the celebrant often motions the faithful to sit, even though the Eucharist is not yet reposed in the tabernacle. I don’t sit until the squeaky tabernacle door closes…
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See I just don’t get it… there is no unity anymore. Every diocese is doing something different and now people being judged by what they are or are not doing. What was wrong with quiet reflective prayer? What was wrong with being on your knees when the priest said, “this IS the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.”? We say, “Lord I am not worthy…” but then just stand there. It is painful for me to do but our priest does make you feel guilty for not be in unity with the Church and I do feel it is wrong to disobey the bishop so I stand but kneel in my heart. I have read the GIRM and this is just not the case. We must pray for the Church.
 
My parish has run a little thing in the bulletin to remind us about postures. It reads something like “BOW during the creed, STAND after the great amen, (for some reason we got into the bad habit of standing during it), BOW at communion.”
 
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Crusader:
We have been instructed to stand from the Agnus Dei to the conclusion of Holy Communion. Many kneel from the end of communion to the beginning of the closing prayer.

I, along with many others kneel after receiving communion.

My big gripe is that the celebrant often motions the faithful to sit, even though the Eucharist is not yet reposed in the tabernacle. I don’t sit until the squeaky tabernacle door closes…
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And you are not only free to do this but the clarification on the US Bishops site says that no posture is to be specified at all for after returning to your pew.

How does the celebrant sit when it is he who is supposed to return the Blessed Sacrament to the tabernacle??
 
Veronica Anne:
After Communion, I remain kneeling until I’m done with my prayer, thankyouverymuch.

I don’t think that announcements about parish activities are appropriate at any point during Mass. Even after Communion.

But, nobody asked me about that. So I just continue kneeling and continuing my prayer until Father asks us to stand for the final blessing.

Hey… at your parish, does your priest say the words “the Mass is ended” before he says “go in peace to love and serve the Lord?”

I ask because I haven’t heard the words “the Mass is ended” in a few years in this diocese.
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I do the same as you do…

Also, my priest does say “the Mass has ended”… I don’t really remember him not saying it.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
And you are not only free to do this but the clarification on the US Bishops site says that no posture is to be specified at all for after returning to your pew.
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That’s axiomatic. It also hasn’t kept my bishop from specifying a posture for this part of the Mass. It also hasn’t kept a nun (one of his minions) from pulling on my shoulder to try and get me to stand.
Br. Rich SFO:
How does the celebrant sit when it is he who is supposed to return the Blessed Sacrament to the tabernacle??
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What is supposed to happen, and what actually happens are (sadly) two different things.
 
I’m not sure I am aware of all the recent changes. First we all were trained to bow at the head of the communion line before we receive (before we had a mix of genuflection, crossing ones self, bowing, and doing nothing). Then we were trained to stand a few seconds before when we used to…we stand right after the priest washes his hands so that we are standing for the Pray brethren. Also the wine is now put into metal goblets and not crystal. Oh, the altar server rings the bells at a new place as well as the old two…it is rung during that HS prayer with the priest’s hands over the gifts.

Hmmm. Oh yes, we are supposed to be silent a bit longer after the readings, but that seems to be observed only at times. We have never had a kneeling problem around here. In fact, no one will stop kneeling until the priest sits.

Also, if there is an extra priest floating about, he comes in to help during communion. The em’s are trained to count the priest/deacons and have the right number of them not come up. Now don’t you all gawk, but we currently have THREE priests!
 
Like every other attempt by the Holy See to correct abuses, it is a dead letter. It will remain so until the Holy Father takes juridical action, which he appears very reluctant to do. I downloaded a document from our bishop’s conference liturgy website because we were having a 24-hour Eucharistic vigil to mark the start of the Year of the Eucharist, but I couldn’t use it. It was nothing short of Marxist ‘option for the poor’ propaganda, it was an utter disgrace. Sr. Lucia of Fatima warned us not to look to our bishops for leadership, you won’t get any.
 
Hey… at your parish, does your priest say the words “the Mass is ended” before he says “go in peace to love and serve the Lord?”
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He’s not supposed to.

Acording to the rubrics, the priest says “The Mass is ended; go in peace” or “Go in peace, to love and serve the Lord.”

“The Mass is ended; go in peace, to lover and serve the Lord” is an abusive hybrid.

IMHO, we should just go back to Ite missa est.

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Crusader:
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Others (particularly visitors) kneel during the Agnus Dei. It’s so very clear who kneel because they feel they are so “traditional”, and those who kneel because quite honestly, they would feel extremely uncomfortable not kneeling during this point of the Mass.** One groups seems to try and see who is watching them**, replete with a smug look on their faces, the other seems lost in thanksgiving…
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Well, someone is watching them! You! How charitable of you to give them what they want!:rotfl:
 
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Crusader:
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Others (particularly visitors) kneel during the Agnus Dei. It’s so very clear who kneel because they feel they are so “traditional”, and those who kneel because quite honestly, they would feel extremely uncomfortable not kneeling during this point of the Mass. One groups seems to try and see who is watching them, replete with a smug look on their faces, the other seems lost in thanksgiving…
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How on earth can you be so sure about who is who, and what is in their hearts?:confused: And should you be “watching” anyone so intently??? During the Agnus?
 
thanks to all for your responses… for those interested, here is a link for a brief synopsis/ highlights of the document catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?vm_id=3&art_id=23479 or if you want to read the whole 186 paragraphs (about 50 printed pages), here it is vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html

just to fess up myself, before RS, about the only thing we were told was to emphasize the uniformity of posture for receiving Holy Communion, which was to bow your head … we also stopped the EMHC’s from pouring the Precious Blood or moving the Precious Body from the large “ciborium” to the individual “ciboria”

now, we are getting rid of our glass sacred vessels and replacing them with what is required …

our deacon yesterday actually asked for the extraordinary minister of Holy Communion (not Eucharistic minister) to the sick come and get their pyx

there might be others but i can’t think of any right now

i have been to or heard of a couple of Masses (not at my parish) where the wine was poured into all the chalices before the Consecration
 
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