What is your stand on gun ownership?

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If I thought the necessity of Gun ownership was a priority in my life I might consider going out and buying one. Its not a hang-up or priority for me, so I could careless.

But for (“some”) gun owners I sometimes question “who” really owns their gun or rifle.
Does the Owner own the Gun or does the Gun Own them? Its a matter of psychological prospective.
 
centurionguard said:
But for (“some”) gun owners I sometimes question “who” really owns their gun or rifle.
Does the Owner own the Gun or does the Gun Own them? Its a matter of psychological prospective.
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True.
But the same could be said of cars, boats, computers, or sound systems.
 
vz71 said:
True.
But the same could be said of cars, boats, computers, or sound systems.
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Also True.

But it would be interesting to get an accurate tally of the items of ownership you list in comparison to the number of all types of guns in ownership.

Of course were not even speaking here of the number of illegal guns in ownership

Perhaps then one could get an idea which materialistic item is most sought after.
 
centurionguard said:
Also True.

But it would be interesting to get an accurate tally of the items of ownership you list in comparison to the number of all types of guns in ownership.

Of course were not even speaking here of the number of illegal guns in ownership

Perhaps then one could get an idea which materialistic item is most sought after.
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Cars.
I do not have the statistics in front of me, but car ownership far outnumbers gun ownership. and the car takes ownership of the owner pretty often.
After that, I would hazard a guess, TV and stereo equipment. Every household has a TV, and you can bet that most of them have the biggest screen they can ill-afford.
Then there are cell phones (smart phones)…most cannot afford the cost, but everyone has one. And every month everyone is working for that latest bell or whistle that their phone can do.

Given the plethora of items out that consumers slave for, it would be a poor case to claim that guns are the exclusive territory of those that are materialistic.
In fact, it would be a stretch to put guns even on the top 10 list of materialist possessions.

Quite the contrary, due to expense as well as the paperwork and screening process, a case can be made that gun owners are more stable in comparison to other consumers.
 
Eddie_Mac said:
Amazing thread drift.

As I stated you have no understanding on the real meaning of the second amendment. Read the writings of our founding fathers. I used the example of interpretation of scripture as a foundation for you to use when understanding the Constitution. Works the same way. I cannot make it any clearer. The Constitution and BOR are not “living documents”. You must use context when reading and understanding.

As for the rest of your drivel, I am willing to bet that you are a Bush basher and an Obama worshipper. More glaringly you are an America hater bent on venting your anger here.

I will never convince you so I will ignore you. You do not desire a civil debate on the second amendment, you want to drag America through the mud, I doubt if you respect any military, and I find your attitude nauseating.

Eddie Mac
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Thanks for ignoring me.
 
Calgar said:
lol.

What interpretation of the Bible?
This comes as a reply to someone who compared interpretation of the Bible with interpretation of the US Constitution.
Why should automatic weapons be controlled?
They were made during WW I for war, to gun down hundreds of soldiers.
Where is the Tyranical government? They’re right around the corner, after gun control.
Pleae, be sensible! Nixon went down without guns !!! Clinton almost went down for a skirt’s problem. No guns.
Where does the 2nd amendment talk about the armed forced?
Yes. It talks. Citizens armed to DEFEND the State. who are they?
On and on you ramble. Look, you’re obviously set in your ways. Being a victim is what you like. And it makes you angry to see others who aren’t victims.
Thanks for your feedback about me!

So your response is a strong desire to make them as weak as you are.
I do not know who “them” are. Thanks again for your feedbak about me!
You’re losing your mind if you are so afraid of gun ownership that you think anyone with a weapon is a murderer.
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From the acts of policemen in the USA and I see many documntaries about that here in TV, the police confront civilians always with the pressuposition that the person may have a gun and may shoot. The policemen say that: “He may have a gun. We do not know whether he may shoot.” And to the reporter they say: “This is a dangerous job”. It was not invented by men.
As for your feeback, thanks again.
 
centurionguard said:
Also True.

But it would be interesting to get an accurate tally of the items of ownership you list in comparison to the number of all types of guns in ownership.

Of course were not even speaking here of the number of illegal guns in ownership

Perhaps then one could get an idea which materialistic item is most sought after.
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The term “illegal gun” is a misnomer.

The only reason a firearm is declared legal or illegal is becasue of regulation. I won’t get into the asects of regulation because regulation af any item or substance never prevents anyone from obtaining them.

You nearly got it right when you mentioned “ownership”. There are those who legally cannot own a firearm. I have no problem with this for the most part, but in my world, allowing an unethical and often criminal government to determine who can and cannot own firearms is asking for tyranny.

I am probably one whom you would say might be obsessed with firearms but I consider myself in the same realm as a stamp or coin collector. There are certain firearms that I am fond of so I purchase them when I find good deals. Old Browning semi-auto shotguns and 1911 style pistols to be exact.

They do not own me. I give to God what is His. I do not let my zeal detract from what is necessary.

They are a solid investment that I can hand down to my sons and grandchildren.

I also own more than a few military style semi-automatic rifles. This is the proper term for the AR-15 and M-4 type weapons that the leftist gun grabbing media calls “assault weapons”. They are not assault weapons for an assault weapon by definition is known by other features including but not limited to full automatic operation.

They are my tools along with my ammo stores that I have at my disposal for when something needs fixing.

Eddie Mac
 
Pfaffenhoffen said:
From the acts of policemen in the USA and I see many documntaries about that here in TV, the police confront civilians always with the pressuposition that the person may have a gun and may shoot. The policemen say that: “He may have a gun. We do not know whether he may shoot.” And to the reporter they say: “This is a dangerous job”. It was not invented by men.
As for your feeback, thanks again.
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As usual, Pfaffenhoffen, you may argue very well, but you don’t know what you are talking about when it come to the United States and the Bill of Rights in our Constitution.
Your anti-Americanism has no bounds, and, like your abhorrance of firearms is based on total ignorance and anti-American propaganda.
You, sir, are not worth arguing with.
 
George_Stegmeir said:
As usual, Pfaffenhoffen, you may argue very well, but you don’t know what you are talking about when it come to the United States and the Bill of Rights in our Constitution.
Your anti-Americanism has no bounds, and, like your abhorrance of firearms is based on total ignorance and anti-American propaganda.
You, sir, are not worth arguing with.
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Thanks you for your insults.
 
vz71 said:
Cars.
I do not have the statistics in front of me, but car ownership far outnumbers gun ownership. and the car takes ownership of the owner pretty often.
After that, I would hazard a guess, TV and stereo equipment. Every household has a TV, and you can bet that most of them have the biggest screen they can ill-afford.
Then there are cell phones (smart phones)…most cannot afford the cost, but everyone has one. And every month everyone is working for that latest bell or whistle that their phone can do.

Given the plethora of items out that consumers slave for, it would be a poor case to claim that guns are the exclusive territory of those that are materialistic.
In fact, it would be a stretch to put guns even on the top 10 list of materialist possessions.

Quite the contrary, due to expense as well as the paperwork and screening process, a case can be made that gun owners are more stable in comparison to other consumers.
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Interesting Web site … more guns than cars:

gunblast.com/Gun_Facts.htm

excerpt:

FACT: There are more guns in the U.S. than cars (228,000,000 guns according to the 1998 FBI statistics and 207,754,000 automobiles according to the 1998 Federal Highway Administration registrations). Yet, you are 31 times more likely to be accidentally killed by a car than a gun according to the National Safety Council…despite cars having been registered and licensed for more than 100 years.
 
Calgar said:
I don’t know about canadian police, but police in America have no responsibility to put themselves in harms way to protect you or your family.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

Also, a PD on the next street over can take well over an hour to respond. I don’t know any station that’s got a 10 minute response.

P.S. Do you think it takes 10 minutes to harm someone?
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I have seen this sentence written often. Then why does police exist? Why are they armed? Why they are killed every year? I never got answers for these questions.
 
Calgar said:
It is. They are good little serfs. Do you need to talk that way?

Speaking of germany specifically: They ban books and art. ??? Tax Christians. ??? And don’t get me started on the polizei. ???

Europe (governments) just agrivate me in general. I despise spending time there, even though I have to do it often.
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So you like the ones who killed millions in Vietnam? Nixon, the great deposed? and the Bushes? the last one having started a was that killed thousands of children and women ?

I am not comparing US governments with European Governments. You have a right to despise European Governments like Berlusconni. But your picture seems to be in black and white: the devil (europe) and the saints (USA).
 
centurionguard said:
If I thought the necessity of Gun ownership was a priority in my life I might consider going out and buying one. Its not a hang-up or priority for me, so I could careless.

But for (“some”) gun owners I sometimes question “who” really owns their gun or rifle.
Does the Owner own the Gun or does the Gun Own them? Its a matter of psychological prospective.
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I would say, from the individual point of view, it is better to be armed to the teeth. But for Society as a whole, I do not see the advantages. It makes Society less secure and thus the individual less secure.

Your question is a very troublesome one. When you have a 3000 acres ranch, the rach slowly starts owning you. the same for a yatch, for a palace, for any over-the-board human possession. A teacher on Psychology, a brilliant one, told something that I never forgot: “When a friend of mine lent a luxury car to drive, I felt rich!” Ie, material things are an extension of the human body.

That is why rich people feel so powerful though they die as a homeless man.

Guns make you feel safe. But are really safe if everybody has got guns? The other will shoot you before you have time to think on taking your gun…That is what I do not understand why people do not see this, what can be seen in the News everyday…
 
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