I never understood this as Jesus told the rich man to sell all that he has and come follow him … or when Jesus told his disciples to go and preach and bring bring only 1 tunic and don’t even bother to bring a spare.I have watched Osteen more then a handful of times and have never heard him proclaim to have special insight never known before. I only hear, 'God wants you healthy, and wealthy. So claim what’s already yours in Jesus name. Now go and have a great day because you’re loved."
Now on to the gnosticism. Gnosticism is all about offering some sort of hidden or secret knowledge that was unknown before or that was supposedly concealed. Such as the gnostic gospels (Phillip, Thomas, Peter). There are several pastors who claim to have special insight from God (Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, well about half of the preachers on TBN ) and tell it to their television audiences and congregations about new revelations “from the throne room of God.”
I partially agree with this but note tht “gnosis” means “knowledge.” The gnostics claim that scriptures are not what they seem literally but are only metaphors or keys to hidden knowledge granted to an elect. In my observation Osteen and others tend more toward the view that scriptures are literally true, something Gnostics deny.
The warm, fuzzy Jesus Christology.Joel Osteen preaches the Prosperity Gospel. What kind of Christology does he adhere too?
As a Catholic, I certainly believe his ideas are heretical-- as in not Catholic.Is he a heretic?
No, not at all.I don’t really know too much about Gnosticism but do you think you could compare the Prosperity Gospel to Gnosticism?
I suspect that he follows Supply Side Jesus.Joel Osteen preaches the Prosperity Gospel. What kind of Christology does he adhere too?
Is he a heretic?
I don’t really know too much about Gnosticism but do you think you could compare the Prosperity Gospel to Gnosticism?
No because the gnostics taught all earthly matter was evil. Some abstained from earthly things as much as humanly possible. While others took the attitude that if it’s evil, abuse it and show no respect to it. So some gnostics became gluttons.Joel Osteen preaches the Prosperity Gospel. What kind of Christology does he adhere too?
Is he a heretic?
I don’t really know too much about Gnosticism but do you think you could compare the Prosperity Gospel to Gnosticism?
NC Jesus doesn’t care if we’re wealthy but it can’t come before HIM. He didn’t tell the Rich man to sell all his possessions because Jesus wanted him to be poor. The rich man wanted to inherit eternal life and asked Christ what it took. After confirming the rich man obeyed the important commands Jesus rattled off Jesus then said go sell everything and follow me. It was then that the rich man walked away in despair. So the lesson is that the rich man was not willing to give up his possessions to follow Christ. Not that he had to be poor to follow Christ. Nothing we do or have can ever get in the way of us following Christ. That’s why Christ says hate your mother. Not to literally hate your mother but that Christ comes first.I never understood this as Jesus told the rich man to sell all that he has and come follow him … or when Jesus told his disciples to go and preach and bring bring only 1 tunic and don’t even bother to bring a spare.
I thougt Jesus wants us wealthy but not in the things of this earth.
Agreed … but I get the sense when I read about Osteen’s ministry that spiritual growth is tied to a subsequent growth in income or wealth.NC Jesus doesn’t care if we’re wealthy but it can’t come before HIM. PEACE
He was raised Southern Baptist. His wife was raised Church of Christ. From the content of their messages, I’d suggest that neither adhere to the traditional theology of either group.What kind of Christology does he adhere too?
Heretics are defined by those with whom affiliation is claimed. Furthermore, it applies only when there are disagreements on “the essentials”.Is he a heretic?
Gnostics come from a position of “I Know”, not “I Believe”.I don’t really know too much about Gnosticism