What kinda Catholic do you call one that's neither liberal, nor Traditionalist?

[Filii_Dei]

So, in this context does ‘govern’ mean:

1. Conduct the policy, actions and affairs of?
   or
2. Control, influence and regulate?

Both. The Magisterium sets both direction (through the Catechism) and restriction (through Canon Law) for the faithful.

 

[TevereNauta]

What kinda Catholic do you call one that’s neither liberal, nor Traditionalist?

Me.

Seriously though my friend it is a fact, a fact, all sound theologians agree that virtus in media stat, that is, ‘good practice lies in the middle path’. I so agree with you! I am neither ‘liberal’ nor ‘traditionalist’, as others have said I find both these positions to be extreme and devisive.

Quick examples…I used to go to an extremely ‘liberal’ parish and left there when the priest started questioning the miracles of Christ and basically took a hard-left turn to liberation theology, etc. (I will say that the laity in that parish was just plain awesome though, salt of the earth). I then went to an extremely traditional parish [known for its EF Mass community] where I loved the priests, but it was literally like praying with the Pharisees. I mean, during the sign of peace, I literally had people shun me, or give me a dirty look, or just rush to kneel (against our diocesan rubrics, I might add) to avoid greeting their fellow parishoners. I mean, come on people! And yes, there were mantillas aplenty, and I think they were worn not as a sacramental…but as a way of saying ‘I am holier and more devout than you’, it was very disheartening.

I now go to an awesome Catholic parish, just plain Catholic. It is a happy balance liberalism and traditionalism and the clergy there say a reverant OF Mass. I am very content, and find it a holy and joyous parish to worship in. You know…porridge too hot, too cold, just right .

 

[JustaServant]

TevereNauta;9019391I then went to an extremely traditional parish [known for its EF Mass community:

where I loved the priests, but it was literally like praying with the Pharisees. I mean, during the sign of peace, I literally had people shun me, or give me a dirty look, or just rush to kneel (against our diocesan rubrics, I might add) to avoid greeting their fellow parishoners. I mean, come on people! And yes, there were mantillas aplenty, and I think they were worn not as a sacramental…but as a way of saying ‘I am holier and more devout than you’, it was very disheartening.

There is no ‘sign of peace’ in a TLM. What you probably attended was a Novus Ordo in Latin.
I would be careful in making private judgments. It sounds no different than an evangelical poster on here who attended Mass and said people were simply “going through the motions”. Since the Mass is a Sacrifice, and I am to be in prayer during that time, my focus is to be on the altar, not the people around me.

 

[TevereNauta]

There is no ‘sign of peace’ in a TLM. What you probably attended was a Novus Ordo in Latin.
I would be careful in making private judgments. It sounds no different than an evangelical poster on here who attended Mass and said people were simply “going through the motions”. Since the Mass is a Sacrifice, and I am to be in prayer during that time, my focus is to be on the altar, not the people around me.

Indeed I know that sir. Not to push this forward, but to clarify: I received numerous cold shoulders at an OF Mass while attending a parish known for its EF service. IOW, the Church has five Masses on Sundays (2 English OF, 1 Spanish OF, 1 Vietnamese OF, 1 Latin EF). I would certainly not expect the Sign of Peace at the EF, which I have attended. Also, the coldness of this particular congregation, which I called Pharisiac based on the general behavior, was not a one time occurance. I am not trying to be uncharitable, I am simply trying to relate my experience.