What Makes Catholicism the Only Church?

[believers]

NOOO… I questioned how you “know” that every single book in the Bible was inspired by God. It’s scary that you can’t see the difference.

Besides the fact that you completely fabricated me “doubting the word of God”…

You haven’t even cited a single verse yet!! :banghead:

Exo, you ask me this question as if I have no idea why I believe as I do. I believe God’s Word is inspired because I believe and have faith in Jesus Christ. I’ll explain… since I have faith in Jesus, I believe that He named the Canon in Luke 11:51. I also believe that God’s Word was committed to the Jews as stated in Rom 3:1-2. Then in Luke 24:44 he states the 3 sections as “the law of Moses”, "the Prophets, and the “PSALMS”.

Just look at the Jews list of Books and they are the exact same books as the protestants OT.

Luk 11:51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.

Rom 3:1-2
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit [is there] of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the Oracles of God.

Luk 24:44
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.

Note: "The traditional Jewish canon was divided into three sections (Law, Prophets, Writings), and an unusual feature of the last section was the listing of Chronicles out of historical order, placing it after Ezra-Nehemiah and making it the last book of the canon. In light of this, the words of Jesus in Luke 11:50-51 reflect the settled character of the Jewish canon (with its peculiar order) already in his day. Christ uses the expression “from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah,” which appears troublesome since Zechariah was not chronologically the last martyr mentioned in the Bible (cf. Jer. 26:20-23). However, Zechariah is the last martyr we read of in the Old Testament according to Jewish canonical order (cf. II Chron. 24:20-22), which was apparently recognized by Jesus and his hearers."1

 

[Ignatius]

As I’m trying better to understand the Catholic faith, a question popped into my head: how do Catholics know that their faith is the only one brought forth by God?

Discerning the Church which Christ founded.

There are a few things we know about this true church:

1. It was built by Jesus Christ himself (Matt 16:18) which means that the “true church” must be about 2000 years old.
2. Jesus only built ONE church (Matt 16:18).
3. This church is the God -ordained upholder, protector and defender of the truth (1 Tim 3:15).
4. This church is the fullness of Christ (Eph 1:22-23) which means that it is also the fullness of truth (John 14:6).
5. The unity of this church will be proof to the world that Jesus was sent by God (John 17:21,23). In order for this unity to be seen by the world this church must be a visible church.
6. The unity of this church must be a unity like that which exists between Jesus and the Father (John 17:21-23), therefore there can be no contradictions in doctrine. The Father and the Son do not disagree on doctrine therefore neither can the “true church”.
7. This church can never change what it proclaims to be true. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever (Heb 13:8) therefore truth is the same yesterday, today and forever (John 14:6).
8. The Church which Jesus Christ founded is the one to whom He revealed and who declared and decreed which books are to be contained in the New Testament.

Hope this helps.

Your brother in Christ

 

[believers]

Philemon 1:10
I appeal to you for my child, Ones’imus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment.

Uh oh, St Paul may be in trouble here!

Are you sure you’re quoting that right?

Phm 1:10
I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:

 

[believers]

Priest can forgive sins because the Apostles was given this ability by Jesus Christ himself, and the Apostle handed it down to their sucessors, the bishops and priest.

This verse shows that priest can forgive sins but in their name but in Jesus Name.

That’s what your religion wants you to believe.

Mar 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Luk 3:3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;

Luk 24:47 **And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. **

 

[Grace_Angel]

As some of you already know, I’m a cradle Catholic who was never really serious about the Church and its traditions. I had a personal relationship with God and did my best to lead a decent life, and that was good enough for me.

As I’m trying better to understand the Catholic faith, a question popped into my head: how do Catholics know that their faith is the only one brought forth by God? What if we have it all wrong and the Catholic faith is not righteous with God?

Hello GoodLife,
The reason we can be sure that the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church is the True Church, the Body of Christ, The Bride of Christ, The Woman of revelation, An Image of the Virgin, is the reality that its genesis lies in the Words of Jesus to Peter “You are Peter (Kephus) meaning Rock and on this rock I will build my Church and the gates of hades shall not prevail again it.” And Jesus gave Peter the “Keys” these keys mean that “Peter” (all the Popes through the Ages) hold the keys to the household of God. Jesus also said as He breathed on “those whose sins you forgive are forgiven them and whose sins you retain, they are retained”
We have a mountain of evidence that the Catholic Church is the One and only (Jesus doesnt have many brides, there is only 1 Peter, Jesus has one body) Church bec ause ultimately it is the Church that has survived against all odds for two thousand years because it has “Peter” at its head, and the teachings of Jesus hav e been protected and safeguarded by the magistirium which is protected by the Holy Spirit.
Grace Angel.

 

[dosdog]

That’s what your religion wants you to believe. .

For good reason - Its TRUE

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[JustinApologist]

That’s what your religion wants you to believe.

Mar 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Luk 3:3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;

Luk 24:47 **And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. **

John 20:23 clearly states the power to forgive sins was handed down from Jesus to his apostles. If you read Acts carefully, Apostles lay their hands on priests, and bishops.

 

[fellowChristian]

I am a cradle Catholic who was “blind”. I was just doing as my father ,and his mother before him, told me to do. I didn’t know about any other religion.

I had a co-worker who is Lutheran. One night on break I looked up Lutherans on the internet. They explained how Martin broke from the Catholic Church in 1517ad.

Then I read about the Anabaptist and when they broke off 1521ad

Then King Henry VIII and how he started the Church of England aka Anglican after breaking from the Catholic Church in 1534.

Then I read about John Calvin, how he broke from the Catholic Church in 1555ad.

Then I read about the Mennonites, Amish, Puritans, Baptist, Millerites, Seventh Day Adventist, Congregational, Salvation Army, Methodist, Presbyterians, Quakers, Pentecostal, Jehovah Witness’, and Mormons, and how each one of their founders had broke off from one of the above “original break- offs”.

You type in any one of those religions and read about their founders and see when they where founded. All were founded by a man after Martin Luther in 1517.

I remember thinking “Who did the Catholic Church break off from?”
So I began my search. I traced the Catholic Church all the way back to Jesus. Just by following the bread crumbs left by all the churches and looking at history.

Before 1517 there was no such religion as a “Protestant”. There was only The Catholic Church.

Trace your “Family Tree”. You will find the trunk. Then when you read Scripture it will make sense. Every time the word “ONE” is used.
Ephesians
3Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4There is **one body **and one Spirit—just as you were called to **one hope **when you were called— 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; **6one God **and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

 

[fellowChristian]

And one more thing. Think about it -No Protestants before 1517ad. right? No Protestants in 384-400ad. right? Look up the word Latin Vulgate, or Didache, or Council of Nicea .I found those in my dictionary,on the History website and online.

 

[Mickey]

Are you sure you’re quoting that right?

Those translations that do not use the word “father” still refer to onesimus as St Paul’s son. And we know that St Paul was ceibate.

Know you have begun reaching for straws. :tiphat:

 

[Mickey]

That is why repentance is so important. You must turn away from sin. Turn to Jesus in Faith and repent of your sins.

Yes. We must have a metanoia–a change of heart and mind–to turn from our sinful ways on a daily basis. The man cannot be separated from his heart or his confession because a sincere confession comes from the heart.

Get out of the confession to the priest and penance routine.

Never! If only you could experience the profound grace that resides with the holy sacrament of reconciliation.

You must turn away from your sins altogether.

I try. But I am a realist. I know that I will fall…and repent…and fall…and repent…and fall…and repent…

 

[Mannyfit75]

Yes. We must have a metanoia–a change of heart and mind–to turn from our sinful ways on a daily basis. The man cannot be separated from his heart or his confession because a sincere confession comes from the heart.

Never! If only you could experience the profound grace that resides with the holy sacrament of reconciliation.

I try. But I am a realist. I know that I will fall…and repent…and fall…and repent…and fall…and repent…

I feel the same way. Jesus gave the Apostles the power to forgive sins, and I doubt that gift died with them. I believe these gifts were pass on to the bishops and priest in order to grant the faithful remission of sins.

Second, as a human being I cannot trust myself to live a faithful life. I will fall, and I need to repent. Through confession, we can gain this. Plus, the priest is only an instrument, it is Jesus who forgives in the sacrament of reconciliation. The priest forgives us in the Name of the Father, And of the Son, and Of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Randy_Carson]

That’s not what Jesus said. The Word says believe on Him and repent. Jesus NEVER says have your infants water baptized.

Water baptism is unnecessary. The thief on the cross was not water baptized yet he was saved. Please don’t tell me about “baptism of desire” because it doesn’t exist.

And no, the RCC is not the true church. It is unfortunate that so many people are deceived into believing such a lie. Millions of people are being lead astray because the message of confession and penance has replaced true Gospel of Jesus which is of a true heartfelt repentance toward sin.

You must be born-again of the spirit. Believe and repent. Completely turn away from your sins. If you are doing something you know you shouldn’t be doing… Jesus said… “sin no more”

Mat 7:14
Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

If the RCC was the one true church… this verse would be false. With over 1billion members… that’s 1 out of every 6 people in the World are Catholic… that’s hardly considered “few”. That seems to disqualify the RCC as the one true church based on size alone.

The Word says “find” the narrow way. RCC membership guarantees you nothing.

This post is as false as the misunderstanding contained in your signature.

The following scriptures will show you five major points related to baptism. I put this together myself for just such an occasion.

The Sacrament of Baptism

Many people believe that baptism is merely a symbolic act that one performs before the community of believers as an outward sign of an inward decision to accept Christ as one’s “personal Lord and Savior”. Is this view biblical or does God view baptism differently? Let’s see what the Bible has to say.

Baptism is Related to Impartation of the Holy Spirit

Ezekiel 36:25-27
25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

In this Old Testament passage, the prophet clearly speaks of the sacrament of baptism that was to come. Notice the elements: water is sprinkled, the person is actually made clean (not merely imputed to be or called clean), and they receive a new spirit along with the gift of the Holy Spirit. Ezekiel makes a connection between washing in Water and the receipt of the Spirit of God.

However, sometimes when the Old Testament is referenced, people will say, “Well, we follow the New Testament.” in an attempt to dismiss an Old Testament passage. They need to remember the following words from the New Testament:

2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Consequently, we can see that all of the Bible must be taken into account when we seek to understand doctrine.

Baptism Washes Away Sin

Acts 2:38-39
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

At Pentecost, Peter told the crowd to “be baptized…for the forgiveness of…sins.” After that, “you will receive…the Holy Spirit”. Once again, we see the elements of Water and Spirit…just as Ezekiel prophesied. Note too, that this promise is for “you and your children” – a clear endorsement of infant baptism.

Acts 22:16
16 And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name. (Acts 22:16)

(cont.)

 

[Randy_Carson]

Baptism Makes Us Part of the Body of Christ

1 Corinthians 12:13
13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

Galatians 3:26-27
26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

Colossians 2:11-12
11 In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.

Baptism Saves

Mark 16:16
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Romans 6:3-4
Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

1 Peter 3:18-22
18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19 through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison 20 who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.

Baptism Commanded by Jesus

John 3:5
5 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.”

Some argue that in this verse, “born of water” refers to the placenta fluid of physical birth. However, there is no scriptural basis for this interpretation. Instead, as the references from Ezekiel and the New Testament passages make clear, the “water” connected with the Holy Spirit is the water of the sacrament of baptism – not that of physical birth. Jesus’ words, understood properly, tell us that unless one is “born of baptism and the Spirit” he cannot enter the kingdom of God. This point is underscored by the fact that Jesus and the disciples went out to baptize

Matthew 28:19
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

In this passage containing the very last instructions Jesus gave His disciples, we see how important baptism was to Him. He did not say, “Go and make disciples of all nations, teaching them to accept me as their personal Lord and Savior and baptizing them as an outward symbol of this inward acceptance…”

From these passages, we can see that water baptism is connected very closely with the receipt of the Holy Spirit, that baptism washes away sin, that baptism saves us, and that baptism is commanded by Jesus. Therefore, baptism can hardly be viewed as a merely symbolic.

Hope this helps. :tiphat:

 

[dosdog]

(1) The Baptism of Desire
The baptism of desire (baptismus flaminis) is a perfect contrition of heart, and every act of perfect charity or pure love of God which contains, at least implicitly, a desire (votum) of baptism. The Latin word flamen is used because Flamen is a name for the Holy Ghost, Whose special office it is to move the heart to love God and to conceive penitence for sin. The “baptism of the Holy Ghost” is a term employed in the third century by the anonymous author of the book “De Rebaptismate”. The efficacy of this baptism of desire to supply the place of the baptism of water, as to its principal effect, is proved from the words of Christ. After He had declared the necessity of baptism (John 3), He promised justifying grace for acts of charity or perfect contrition (John 14): “He that loveth Me, shall be loved of my Father: and I will love him and will manifest myself to him.” And again: “If any one love me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him, and will make our abode with him.” Since these texts declare that justifying grace is bestowed on account of acts of perfect charity or contrition, it is evident that these acts supply the place of baptism as to its principal effect, the remission of sins. This doctrine is set forth clearly by the Council of Trent. In the fourteenth session (cap. iv) the council teaches that contrition is sometimes perfected by charity, and reconciles man to God, before the Sacrament of Penance is received. In the fourth chapter of the sixth session, in speaking of the necessity of baptism, it says that men can not obtain original justice “except by the washing of regeneration or its desire” (voto). The same doctrine is taught by Pope Innocent III (cap. Debitum, iv, De Bapt.), and the contrary propositions are condemned by Popes Pius V and Gregory XII, in proscribing the 31st and 33rd propositions of Baius.

We have already alluded to the funeral oration pronounced by St. Ambrose over the Emperor Valentinian II, a catechumen. The doctrine of the baptism of desire is here clearly set forth. St. Ambrose asks: “Did he not obtain the grace which he desired? Did he not obtain what he asked for? Certainly he obtained it because he asked for it.” St. Augustine (IV, De Bapt., xxii) and St. Bernard (Ep. lxxvii, ad H. de S. Victore) likewise discourse in the same sense concerning the baptism of desire. If it be said that this doctrine contradicts the universal law of baptism made by Christ (John 3), the answer is that the lawgiver has made an exception (John 14) in favor of those who have the baptism of desire. Neither would it be a consequence of this doctrine that a person justified by the baptism of desire would thereby be dispensed from seeking after the baptism of water when the latter became a possibility. For, as has already been explained the baptismus flaminis contains the votum of receiving the baptismus aquæ. It is true that some of the Fathers of the Church arraign severely those who content themselves with the desire of receiving the sacrament of regeneration, but they are speaking of catechumens who of their own accord delay the reception of baptism from unpraiseworthy motives. Finally, it is to be noted that only adults are capable of receiving the baptism of desire.

(2) The Baptism of Blood
The baptism of blood (baptismus sanquinis) is the obtaining of the grace of justification by suffering martyrdom for the faith of Christ. The term “washing of blood” (lavacrum sanguinis) is used by Tertullian (De Bapt., xvi) to distinguish this species of regeneration from the “washing of water” (lavacrum aquæ). “We have a second washing”, he says “which is one and the same [with the first], namely the washing of blood.” St. Cyprian (Ep. lxxiii) speaks of “the most glorious and greatest baptism of blood” (sanguinis baptismus). St. Augustine (De Civ. Dei, XIII, vii) says: “When any die for the confession of Christ without having received the washing of regeneration, it avails as much for the remission of their sins as if they had been washed in the sacred font of baptism.”

The Church grounds her belief in the efficacy of the baptism of blood on the fact that Christ makes a general statement of the saving power of martyrdom in the tenth chapter of St. Matthew: “Every one therefore that shall confess me before men, I will also confess him before my Father who is in heaven” (verse 32); and: “He that shall lose his life for me shall find it” (verse 39). It is pointed out that these texts are so broadly worded as to include even infants, especially the latter text. That the former text also applies to them, has been constantly maintained by the Fathers, who declare that if infants can not confess Christ with the mouth, they can by act. Tertullian (Adv. Valent., ii) speaks of the infants slaughtered by Herod as martyrs, and this has been the constant teaching of the Church.

newadvent.org/cathen/02258b.htm

 

[Randy_Carson]

The RCC claims to be the pillar and those who don’t rightly divide the Word of God will believe that to be true.

Set aside your animosity toward the Roman Catholic Church for just a moment, if you would.

Does the Bible state that the Church is the pillar and bullwark of the truth - Yes or No?

Was Paul speaking of a single Church founded by Jesus Christ - Yes or No?

Did Jesus establish Peter as the head of the early Church by giving him the keys to the kingdom and commanding him to “feed my sheep” - Yes or No?

At the time that Paul wrote, was there any Christian Church on Earth other than that led by Peter - Yes or No?

Did Paul envision the need for any other church other than that founded by Jesus Christ and led by Peter - Yes or No?

Was the Church founded by Jesus Christ initially known as “The Way” and later called “Christian” and subsequently called Catholic by St. Irenaeus, a disciple of St. John the Apostle, in 107 AD - Yes or No?

Has the Church founded by Jesus Christ and led initially by Peter known as the “Catholic Church” existed continuously from the first century until today - Yes or No?

Did Jesus promise the Apostles that He would remain with them until the end of the Age - Yes or No?

Did Jesus know that these Apostles would all be dead long before the end of the Age - Yes or No?

Did Jesus therefore intend to remain with the Church by means of the successors of the Apostles until the end of the Age - Yes or No?

Did Jesus command the Apostles to make disciples of all nations - Yes or No?

Would it have been possible for 12 men to travel to every nation in their own limited lifetimes - Yes or No?

Did Jesus therefore intend that the Church would fulfill the Great Commission through the Apostles and their successors - Yes or No?

 

[Randy_Carson]

What you’re not understanding is that the “church” does not refer to the RCC but the body of believers. You keep going on and on about how you think every time “church” is mentioned it refers to the RCC. “church” refers to the body of believers. Believers means those who have faith in Jesus only.

Does the “church” - AS YOU DEFINE IT - include all true believers in Christ throughout the world - regardless of the particular local congregation or denomination they belong to?

 

[Randy_Carson]

… a church without a pope.

Silliness.

The Bishop of Rome is called “pope”, but he remains a Bishop.

As you know, Bishops ARE mentioned in the NT.

Hope this helps. :tiphat:

 

[Randy_Carson]

They are not dishonest just because you’ve been deceived into believing that lie. The church was NEVER built on Peter but Peter’s confession that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Petros and Petra are differences which you refuse to believe.

Jesus did not say “Petros” or “Petra”.

He said, “Kepha” or “Cephas” - because Jesus spoke Aramaic not Greek - a difference which you refuse to believe.

You are Kepha and on this Kepha I will build my church…

Hope this helps. :tiphat:

 

[Randy_Carson]

That’s not what the Holy Spirit used. He used “petros” not kepha. If you have a problem with it… take it up with God.

Petros is the transliteration of the word, Kepha, from Aramaic to Greek.

However, there is no doubt that Jesus named Simon “Kepha” or “Cephas” as it is written in English translations;

Here you go:

1. 
   *]John 1:42
   And he brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, “You are Simon son of John. You will be called Cephas” (which, when translated, is Peter ).
   John 1:41-43 (in Context) John 1 (Whole Chapter)
   *]1 Corinthians 1:12
   What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, "I follow Cephas "; still another, “I follow Christ.”
   1 Corinthians 1:11-13 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter)
   *]1 Corinthians 3:22
   whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future—all are yours,
   1 Corinthians 3:21-23 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 3 (Whole Chapter)
   *]1 Corinthians 9:5
   Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas ?
   Now, if Jesus actually said, “Your are Petros and on this petra I will build my church…”, then why does the Book of John say, “You will be called Cephas (which, when translated, is Peter.)”
   
   If you have a problem with this…take it up with the Holy Spirit.
   
   Hope this helps. :tiphat: