What makes Catholics so angry and bitter?

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Love of God and
Love of neighbor, are nearly on the same plane,right?
So why does it seem so easy for Catholics not to "live" what Catholics are taught to believe?
 
Love of God and
Love of neighbor, are nearly on the same plane,right?
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           So why does it seem so easy for Catholics not to "live" what Catholics are taught to believe?
Not even close. Love of God is much more than it sounds. God is the foremost important ever. Love of neighbor requires to love God as well. Love of God requires a lot more that just loving the neighbor. We don’t have to do our neighbors will, We do God’s will. Why do you think Catholics are angry and bitter?? As a Catholic all my life I have never been angry or bitter towards another religion.
 
do you know a lot of Catholics or are you just lumping us all in with the angry, bitter Catholics you do know?
So why does it seem so easy for Catholics not to “live” what Catholics are taught to believe?
do you have an example of this please. As far as I can tell Catholics love God and the neighbors, so do you have anything to back this up?
 
You’re painting with such a broad brush your claim loses credibility. It’s like saying all nurses are cranky, all blondes are absent-minded or that all mothers focus only on their kids and not on developing their own talents. No one group, especially one as large as the millions that comprise Catholicism, can universally share one trait as you describe.

So who have you encountered and what specifically have they done that has led you to this generalization?
 
Love of God and
Love of neighbor, are nearly on the same plane,right?

So why does it seem so easy for Catholics not to “live” what Catholics are taught to believe?
Loving God with all you heart, soul, mind and strength is a little different that the love we have for one another.

**As tobinatorstark already pointed out, the love we have for God is first and foremost - the most powerful and inmportant thing in our life. **

Question: What makes Catholics are angry and bitter?
Answer: Silly posts.
 
Love of God and
Love of neighbor, are nearly on the same plane,right?
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           So why does it seem so easy for Catholics not to "live" what Catholics are taught to believe?
OK, well, first off, I don’t know I’d be willing to say that Catholics are angry and bitter, as a group. There are a billion Catholics.To be honest, I wouldn’t use “angry” and “bitter” as the first two adjectives to describe us.

I’d go at your question this way, though: each of us knows nothing unless we know our own case. If we don’t become acquainted with that, what hope have we of diagnosing anyone else? “First tend to the beam in your own eye…” may sound cliche, but once you notice how humble good confessors are, how humble holy people are, you start to realize that the truth has to be in that direction.

OK then: when you don’t live what you know, why is that? Are you angry and bitter? If so, why? If not, it is fair to ask why have you made other people’s sins your business, instead of your own? Maybe that is part of your answer.

For me, there is a big gap between what I know to do and actually doing it.

Someone once said that God gives us needs of which we are aware so that we might be grateful when those needs are met. Maybe we are left with clay feet in order that we not forget we haven’t left the human race. Maybe that is why God allows that gap: so we’ll know we need His grace, so we’ll ask for it, so we’ll thank and praise him for every good thing in us.

As for angry and bitter, those are two emotions that follow dashed expectations. I don’t see anger itself as the problem, per se. Anger is a useful emotion. It tells me I have a sense that somebody has crossed a line that is mine to patrol. If I can put aside the physical upset and just look at that question–has a line been crossed or not, and what’s up with that?–I find anger can be very useful. It goes off at the wrong time sometimes, but then so does a smoke alarm. But like a smokealarm, one has to know how to shut the stupid thing off. It doesn’t have to be blaring in order to attend to the fire. We know Jesus was angry when he cleared the Temple. Anger has its place, then, even in a totally peaceful and compassionate heart. It is only a problem when it becomes the master, and not the messenger. Still, an angry Catholic might be, at the same time, a very good Catholic.

As for bitterness, that comes with anger that hasn’t been let go of. If I cannot give up a situation to God, if I cannot place the transgressions I feel are happening but are beyond my control into God’s hand, then anger will give way to bitterness and hostility in me. That’s how I work, anyway. I don’t think bitterness and hostility have much use. If anger is pain over the wound, then bitterness and hostility are more of an infection. It is an attempted healing process gone wrong. We are meant to be at peace and filled with compassion. Peace and compassion may be compatible with anger, but they are incompatible with bitterness and hostility. If one feels continually attacked, though, that compassion is a difficult and ongoing task. Oh, well. Jesus never told us this would be easy.

I think I get bitter and hostile when I forget the not-small print about carrying my cross, about how I could expect to be treated as a follower of Jesus, or about how and by Whose power my burden is meant to be carried. That’s pretty easy to do.

To be honest though: I get most bitter and hostile when I’m attacked for doing what I shouldn’t have been doing, when someone has good reason to be angry with me. It is easier to return anger than to give up defensiveness and admit I’m in the wrong, or to endure someone endlessly shaming me for an act I can repent of but not undo, or to abandon my wrong when my attackers won’t even admit to theirs.

I think that is how it happens with me. I hope that helps.
 
That is a pretty broad statement…What do you base your research on? I’d like to see some data

PS was it you that was so uncharitable toward the Sisters of St Joseph?..I am curious
 
Love of God and
Love of neighbor, are nearly on the same plane,right?
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           So why does it seem so easy for Catholics not to "live" what Catholics are taught to believe?
Why is this question posted in the Traditional Catholicism forum?
 
PJM,
And here I was agreeing with you on one thread and now this? Hmmm.

PJM - Why are non-Catholic Christians passive aggressive?
 
PJM,
And here I was agreeing with you on one thread and now this? Hmmm.

PJM - Why are non-Catholic Christians passive aggressive?
And, by the way, have they stopped beating their wives? 😛 😃
 
Love of God and
Love of neighbor, are nearly on the same plane,right?
Code:
           So why does it seem so easy for Catholics not to "live" what Catholics are taught to believe?
So are you angry and bitter? You are a Catholic. So you must be angry and bitter as well.
 
I’m not an angry Catholic:mad: look at my name:mad: …it’s happymommy:mad: not angry, bitter mommy:mad:

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I’m not an angry Catholic look at my name …it’s happymommy not angry, bitter mommy

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but you forgot :banghead:

I don’t feel that I am angry or bitter either. However, I only swam the Tiber in '08, so perhaps this is something that I will obtain with age, like tarnish?
 
Love of God and
Love of neighbor, are nearly on the same plane,right?
Code:
           So why does it seem so easy for Catholics not to "live" what Catholics are taught to believe?
The problem is you are probably considering people like Nancy Pelosi a Catholic. That is the problem. You can’t just call yourself a Catholic (or any other kind of Christian), you have to actually live like one. Those that don’t aren’t. Pretty simple.
 
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but you forgot :banghead:

I don’t feel that I am angry or bitter either. However, I only swam the Tiber in '08, so perhaps this is something that I will obtain with age, like tarnish?
welcome home!! I swam the Tiber in 2001, not angry yet, but I guess there is time:D :mad: :whacky:
 
Your subject line is difficult to comprehend, as others have noted. But I do understand your question about love of God and love of neighbor. Jesus puts them in some type of conjunction with these words: “On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.” Also, St. John comments that if we don’t love our neighbor, whom we can see, then we cannot love God, whom we cannot see. (paraphrase). So they are related to each other.

About your last question, God did not promise that we would never sin while on this earth. It is very easy to turn our eyes from the goal and become afraid. Perhaps like St. Peter sinking on the waves, or like that seed in the parable that got choked by the worries and cares of the world. I’m sure you agree humans are easy to distract from simple everyday chores. It is even more easily accomplished if pride or something similar is involved.
 
The problem is you are probably considering people like Nancy Pelosi a Catholic. That is the problem. You can’t just call yourself a Catholic (or any other kind of Christian), you have to actually live like one. Those that don’t aren’t. Pretty simple.
Sorry, that one doesn’t fly. Baptism makes us Catholic. If being lousy at it made one not Catholic, then how could one simultaneously admit to being both a sinner and a Catholic? That one doesn’t work.

Even if we were to restrict ourselves to those Catholics who try to deny that our tenets are what they are: for each of those, how many Catholics who support Church teachings without reservation give themselves permission to be angry and bitter that so-called “in-house apostates” still call themselves Catholic?

No, no, we can’t go there. It just doesn’t work.
 
Sorry, that one doesn’t fly. Baptism makes us Catholic. If being lousy at it made one not Catholic, then how could one simultaneously admit to being both a sinner and a Catholic? That one doesn’t work.
Then I’m Catholic. But if that’s your answer, then it contradicts Jesus’ very explicit words to the contrary. There is no such thing as a “bad Christian”. There’s either Christian or non-Christian. Period. There is no sliding scale.
Even if we were to restrict ourselves to those Catholics who try to deny that our tenets are what they are: for each of those, how many Catholics who support Church teachings without reservation give themselves permission to be angry and bitter that so-called “in-house apostates” still call themselves Catholic?
No, no, we can’t go there. It just doesn’t work.
 
One reason is we let our feeling control our life. Anger and bitterness are feelings.These keep us from God and Jesus.We have no control over people ,places and things all we have control over is our reactions.When I fine myself being angry I pray 4 that person ,place or thing that makes me angery.Not working?then I am not praying long enought .The evil ones uses our feeling to turn us away from God.
 
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