What makes God different from a deadbeat dad?

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What is your take on miracles. I probably would not believe, except that I have seen, heard of and read about too many miracles not to believe. And I truly do not wish to believe that existance is without purpose. I wrote a short skit that may interest you at

scribd.com/doc/11558079/The-First-Creation-Debate

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I read a gazillion stories of miracles. Yep, even read about all the apparition sites (Fatima, Lourdes, etc), Eucharistic miracles, stories of miracles by saints (e.g. St. Padre Pio). I even received roses on 2 different occasions from St. Therese. But with the situation I am in, all I can ask myself is…what’s the point of all of these “feel-good” miracles if they don’t improve someone’s lot in life? It’s even worse than a deadbeat dad; it’s a deadbeat dad who has now become some sort of tantalizer.

I will happily read the link you’ve posted.

Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
 
But with the situation I am in, all I can ask myself is…what’s the point of all of these “feel-good” miracles if they don’t improve someone’s lot in life? It’s even worse than a deadbeat dad; it’s a deadbeat dad who has now become some sort of tantalizer.

I will happily read the link you’ve posted.

Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
Hmmm, you are correct that those miracles have not improved my lot in life, but they inspire me to improve the lots of others. Sometimes I have done that. They instill in me hope that service to others is not an exercise in futility and that my own sufferings have a purpose. I want more than that but I do not need it.

I respect your honesty and if you don’t mind I will send you a friend request.
 
Why blame God? Why blame anyone?
Since God apparently “chastises” those He loves:

"And you have forgotten that word of encouragement that addresses you as sons: “My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline, and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those he loves, and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son.” (Hebrews 12:6)

Actually, this is a good question you raised. I was an Agnostic/Atheist for most of my teenage years (I was a Marxist during this period…). Anyways, to cut a long story short, a series of very strange “coincidences” began to happen, and I experienced what you might call “partially infused knowledge”, in which I knew I had to return back to my Catholic faith. This happened over the course of 3 years, and I would have never even known I would be a religious person again. What makes this situation unbearable is that I can not leave the Catholic faith because I know that God will easily use something else to make sure I “stay in line”. I really wish I could become an Atheist…life would be so much easier…

Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
 
Since God apparently “chastises” those He loves:
"And you have forgotten that word of encouragement that addresses you as sons: “My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline, and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those he loves, and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son.” (Hebrews 12:6)
So a parent who disciplines their child doesn’t love them? That’s ridiculous. Part of parental love is discipline, teaching your children right from wrong.
Actually, this is a good question you raised. I was an Agnostic/Atheist for most of my teenage years (I was a Marxist during this period…). Anyways, to cut a long story short, a series of very strange “coincidences” began to happen, and I experienced what you might call “partially infused knowledge”, in which I knew I had to return back to my Catholic faith. This happened over the course of 3 years, and I would have never even known I would be a religious person again. What makes this situation unbearable is that I can not leave the Catholic faith because I know that God will easily use something else to make sure I “stay in line”. I really wish I could become an Atheist…life would be so much easier…
Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
But why does that mean you blame God for your problems?
 
But why does that mean you blame God for your problems?
I think at that time, it was more to do with discipline. It’s important to note that at that time, I had been an Agnostic/Atheist for about 3 years. God didn’t even cross my mind in the slightest. Then in the afternoon, it occurred to me in my mind that “maybe I should attend church again”. It came very spontaneously, and it’s hard to describe it fully in words. Since then, I have always thought that maybe God had other things planned for me. Evidently not. It would appear that I came back to Catholicism on false premises lol…maybe I should go back to being an Atheist after my false deductions?

Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
 
Since then, I have always thought that maybe God had other things planned for me. Evidently not. It would appear that I came back to Catholicism on false premises lol…maybe I should go back to being an Atheist after my false deductions?
I don’t quite understand what you mean. Did you mean you thought God had other things planned for you when you were an atheist or when you came back to Catholicism? And what makes you doubt that?
 
I don’t quite understand what you mean. Did you mean you thought God had other things planned for you when you were an atheist or when you came back to Catholicism? And what makes you doubt that?
I thought God had other things planned for me when I will come back to Catholicism. I doubt it now because maybe all those strange coincidences I experienced were maybe just that…strange coincidences. I think I looked too much into things.

Thank you,
**Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
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I thought God had other things planned for me when I will come back to Catholicism. I doubt it now because maybe all those strange coincidences I experienced were maybe just that…strange coincidences. I think I looked too much into things.

Thank you,
**Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
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Things are what you make of them. Maybe they were signs, maybe they were not. What is important is your interpretation of those things that happened. If they bought you to God, then nothing else matters.
 
Things are what you make of them. Maybe they were signs, maybe they were not. What is important is your interpretation of those things that happened. If they bought you to God, then nothing else matters.
Yes, I’ve made my conclusion now anyway, and I’m very happy that I’ve finally made a decision on which path I’m taking 🙂

That said…I looked at your profile, and I wish you all the best in overcoming the propensity to self-harm 😦

Thank you,
**Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
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How?

He is keeping you in existence by thinking of you and loving you every second. He withdraws His thought of you for 1 second, and you cease to exist. He goes on vacation for 1 second, and the universe ceases to exist.

Doesn’t sound too deadbeat to me 🙂
 
How?

He is keeping you in existence by thinking of you and loving you every second. He withdraws His thought of you for 1 second, and you cease to exist. He goes on vacation for 1 second, and the universe ceases to exist.

Doesn’t sound too deadbeat to me 🙂
😉 👍

Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
 
Yes, I’ve made my conclusion now anyway, and I’m very happy that I’ve finally made a decision on which path I’m taking 🙂

That said…I looked at your profile, and I wish you all the best in overcoming the propensity to self-harm 😦

Thank you,
**Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
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Well I hope the path you take brings you happiness.

Thank you very much.
 
Herr von B-B, 🙂

Simply because I cannot imagine how God is guiding me does not lead me to assume that it is inconceivable God is guiding me. You cannot imagine why anyone would give you an extra dose of salt in your food, but for some reason it tastes better. God may be compared to a chef, crudely, in that He is never seen from the restaurant but always tempers the servings of food for our benefit. If you need to experience death, however traumatic, He will deliver death to you. If you need suffering to become a better person, He will send you suffering.

God is the “Father of lights”. Why should He be bound by visible and tangible utility? His aid is in giving us existence. Think: God is a spirit, and not physical. If God did not wish to create space and time out of nothing, He would not have. In sustaining the very existence of we nothings, He is doing more than the best father on Earth could ever do. Our Lord is literally holding extant reality up every millisecond it is in being.

Deadbead dad indeed!
 
Do you remember how Jesus said it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than it is for the rich man to enter the kingdom of God? I think this is because the rich man, the man to whom everything is provided here on Earth, must work MUCH harder to get into Heaven. Just look at Charlie Sheen. Every sin is at his beck and call. Like hookers? Like porno? Like drugs and alcohol? It’s a phone call away. The temptation is enormous and the means are right there. Add to that his tremendous ego that results from being told “yes” all day every day for years on end and he has become his own God.

The Church teaches that the more free will is present in any given situation, the more culpable we are for our sins. The rich man has a LOT of free will, so when he makes choices like those above, there is really no excuse for it. He may SEEM to have it all, but he has his own crosses to bear.

Now look at people who suffer immensely. Take a girl who has been beaten and raped her whole life, who comes from poverty. Her free will is in a sense, more limited because the choices she makes in her life will undoubtedly be derivative of the horrible experiences she has had. Although she is still responsible for herself, god will grant her more mercy should she turn to drugs or prostitution or pornography because of what she has been through. She may SEEM to have nothing, but (as the beatitudes specify) she and those like her will be shown greater mercy by God. Of course, they will probably spend a LONG time in Purgatory…

Now look at someone like Joan of Arc. Most people would say she had a horrible life and death. At the end of her short life she was imprisoned and mistreated and finally burned alive. Where the heck was God then? Where was this dead-beat dad? What was he doing that was SOOOOOO important that he couldn’t have just snapped His fingers and set her free and given her a mansion in the French countryside? He was there all right. He was giving Joan the greatest gift He could give anyone - the opportunity for holiness. Almost NO-ONE gets an opportunity like that. Sure, Joan could have very easily taken the easy way out. Like the girl above, she could have simply done what circumstances dictated (for Joan, that would have meant recanting her testimony) and God almost certainly would have shown her mercy. After all, how could anyone be expected to willingly burn alive at the stake? But she didn’t. She seized the opportunity that God gave her and was sanctified. She no doubt holds one of the most honored places in all of Heaven, and will do so for ETERNITY. Instead of being unfortunate and abandoned by God, Joan was given an ENORMOUS grace - the chance to give up everything for Him, and she was rewarded beyond imagination.

How many people who have been given everything - money, the perfect wife, the perfect kids, the perfect house, etc. will EVER hold such an esteemed place among God’s chosen? Those people will have to struggle against sin and temptation every day for their entire lives in order to get into Heaven and even THEN they will need vast amounts of God’s grace to make it in. God allows us to struggle because He is giving us the opportunity to be holy, to choose His way and His will, despite our misfortunes.

When people suffer, God gives them the chance to earn their place with Him in Heaven. Those who never suffer have a much harder time of it. I know it’s hard when you are in the midst of suffering, but try to keep your eye on the prize instead of down here on Earthly matters, and use your suffering to become as holy as possible. Jesus promised us that it will pay off in His Sermon on the Mount. Allow yourself to be sanctified by surrendering your will to God and staying faithful.
 
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