Then why don’t we hear of Christian suicide bombers attacking other Christians? You can substitute Buddhist, Hindu or almost anyother religion except Islam into the above phrase. It looks like and Islamist thing. Islam is as Islam does.In my opinion, a lot of things that get labelled acts of Islamic terrorism are really acts of political terrorism committed by people who happen to be Islamic. I think that is the case with the majority of the suicide bombings in Iraq as they are Muslim on Muslim crimes, not intended to defend Islam or advance the Islamic cause in the world, but purely for a groups own political goals.
Now bin Laden is definitely an Islamic terrorist, as was the Intifada and its succeeding manifestations. And admittedly sometimes when dealing with Islam one cannot really distinguish between a poltical and a religious motivation for they are so mixed together as one. But I do think that Beslan was an act of political terrorism committed by people who saw themselves primarily as fighting for a Chechen, not Muslim, cause.
Two words: Tamil Tigers.Then why don’t we hear of Christian suicide bombers attacking other Christians? You can substitute Buddhist, Hindu or almost anyother religion except Islam into the above phrase. It looks like and Islamist thing. Islam is as Islam does.
Because you don’t read news from other parts of the world. That’s really about the only way you can fail to hear of terrorism, including suicide attacks, by non-Muslims.Then why don’t we hear of Christian suicide bombers attacking other Christians? You can substitute Buddhist, Hindu or almost anyother religion except Islam into the above phrase. It looks like and Islamist thing. Islam is as Islam does.
This is a classic mistake: Your list includes terror campaigns undertaken by Muslims, but that have absolutely nothing to do with religious disputes.It seems that Africa and Indian sub-Continent are not free from Islamic terrism either.
8/27/07 Thailand Pattani A female teacher is murdered by Muslim radicals in front of her school.
8/26/07 Pakistan Swat A suicide bomber kills four Pakistanis at a checkpoint.
8/26/07 Pakistan Bajaur A 40-year-old civilian is shot to death by Taliban extremists.
8/26/07 Iraq Mahmudiyah Sunni terrorists kill a child in a mortar attack.
8/26/07 Iraq Baghdad A female pilgrim and several children are among Shias targeted by radical Sunnis, as a dozen people are killed.
8/26/07 Somalia Mogadishu Two young boys and an adult are killed by a bomb planted in a school yard.
8/26/07 Thailand Yala Two rubber tappers are murdered by Islamic radicals while on their way to work.
8/26/07 Somalia Mogadishu Two people are killed in separate grenade attacks by Islamic extremists.
I exhausted myself on a mission to convince people that Muslims are human beings on this forum in the past.Well, I am obviously in the minority on this thread and am convincing no one as we are all each already convinced of our own truth. But who here has actually sat in a mosque and listened to the teaching there? When you start sharing with me those experiences, maybe I’ll believe the rabid views of Islam that are being expressed here. I have, and what I have heard is not what you are claiming is being preached.
The Tamil Tigers do the same thingThen why don’t we hear of Christian suicide bombers attacking other Christians? You can substitute Buddhist, Hindu or almost anyother religion except Islam into the above phrase. It looks like and Islamist thing. Islam is as Islam does.
They don’t do the same thing. They aren’t doing for their God(s). Furthermore it’s a tu quoque.The Tamil Tigers do the same thing
Read the Quran - the rabid views of Islam are expressed there. Read the hadiths - the rabid views of Islam are expressed there too.who here has actually sat in a mosque and listened to the teaching there? When you start sharing with me those experiences, maybe I’ll believe the rabid views of Islam that are being expressed here.
Do you know if the Tamil Tigers actually use religious justifications for their violence?Two words: Tamil Tigers.
They invented the suicide vest, and used terror against Muslims in Sri Lanka.
Thats history. Christianity had changed a lot for the better since then.Most notably, from the time of the Crusades
They mostly do not.Do you know if the Tamil Tigers actually use religious justifications for their violence?
The fact that something is history doesn’t make it irrelevant. And in modern times, there are plenty of Christian locales of strife: Look at what Russia did to Chechnya, what the Serbs did in Bosnia, and what the various factions did in Central America over the past 20 years.Thats history. Christianity had changed a lot for the better since then.
But they are targeting 1000 innocent Christian school children? Those are the targets of these brave Muslim fighters?But I do think that Beslan was an act of political terrorism committed by people who saw themselves primarily as fighting for a Chechen, not Muslim, cause.
Where are your words of condemnation for the (Mostly Christian) Russian army that killed tens of thousands of Chechen children?But they are targeting 1000 innocent Christian school children? Those are the targets of these brave Muslim fighters?
Can you give a reference for that please. Were the Russian soldiers taking over schools and targeting unarmed school children while they are attending school, like these brave Muslim fighters were doing?Where are your words of condemnation for the (Mostly Christian) Russian army that killed tens of thousands of Chechen children?
Do you find it hard to predict that Chechens would do such things considering that their cities have been emptied and that they’ve literally hundreds of thousands of lives to a Russian invasion?
They did worse-they just bombed entire cities into oblivion, shot caravans of fleeing civilians, and tortured and/or killed every prisoner they got their hands on…Can you give a reference for that please. Were the Russian soldiers taking over schools and targeting unarmed school children while they are attending school, like these brave Muslim fighters were doing?
The bombing campaign has turned many parts of Chechnya to a wasteland: even the most experienced war reporters I have spoken to told me they have never seen anything in their careers like the destruction of the capital Grozny.
Even though you were quick to hop on the Chechen war crimes…you didn’t notice about what the (Mostly Christian) Russian forces did.Human Rights Watch has now documented three large-scale massacres by Russian forces in Chechnya. In December, Russian troops killed seventeen civilians in the village of Alkhan-Yurt while going on a looting spree, burning many of the remaining homes and raping several women. We have documented at least fifty murders, mostly of older men and women, by Russian soldiers in the Staropromyslovski district of Grozny since Russian forces took control of that district: innocent civilians shot to death in their homes and their yards. In one case, three generations of the Zubayev family were shot to death in the yard of their home.
This is bad, but not as horrific and not the same as going into a grammar school and targeting 1200 Christian schoolchildren, the way that these brave Islamic fighters did at Beslan.In December, Russian troops killed seventeen civilians in the village of Alkhan-Yurt while going on a looting spree…
It is, unfortunately, not that simple. Violence is indeed a human trait, but religions promote or restrain violence in various ways. All religions are not the same, and Muhammad’s own use of violence (and the reflection of this in the Qur’an) has clearly had a significant effect on the Islamic tradition.Violence Is A Human, Not An Islamic Trait
I know many decent and good Muslims. I am sure that there are many millions of decent Muslim men and women. And I certainly admire the Muslim women as they dress modestly and appear to cherish family life and many children.I exhausted myself on a mission to convince people that Muslims are human beings on this forum in the past.
Considering how you just dismissed reports of whole towns being burned, raped, and murdered, including old women and young children…I know many decent and good Muslims. I am sure that there are many millions of decent Muslim men and women. And I certainly admire the Muslim women as they dress modestly and appear to cherish family life and many children.
What bothers me terribly is why we see Muslim fighters targeting 1200 innocent school children as they did in Beslan. Where is the outrage?
What is your view of the distinction between Islamic traditions concerning violence, and Christian ones?It is, unfortunately, not that simple. Violence is indeed a human trait, but religions promote or restrain violence in various ways. All religions are not the same, and Muhammad’s own use of violence (and the reflection of this in the Qur’an) has clearly had a significant effect on the Islamic tradition.
Edwin