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ServiteJack
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**Who we are and What we do, are and must remain separate entities, especially when it comes to subjects such as these These being when people KNOW of another’s sin and thus point their crooked little fingers at the feminine-boy, or the masculine-girl. If you think back to grammer school - or I’m sorry to say, maybe just taking a long hard look at your own children… It’s often not that difficult to see the children who will grow up with this Cross to bear.
It is no choice. Just as when you looked at your wife for the first time, or your husband to be first looked into your eyes, You Knew there was love there. The Heart chooses who it chooses. So for those who state they are gay, support them, love them, do not condemn them, they can read the bible just like you can.
What about those that are born with 2-genitals. Or none. Or they had both at birth but the parent’s not wanting a freak has an operation done to destroy one set… you know, they already had 2 girls so they make this one a boy. They have a 50-50 shot at getting it right.
But what happens when they get it wrong? My Mother was given hormones during her pregnancy with me - At 3 years old I remember clearly ripping off this frilly dress and being absolutely incensed that no one else could see the ‘obvious’ - that i wasn’t a girl, i was a boy!
I had relationships with boys, there were no childhood molestation nor were my parents animals. It just is what it is. No sin in WHO i am. Like the man attracted by say, cats. He must chose whether to follow God’s word - or that furry little cat into the alley.
silly, but you got the point.
Now people like me are called Transgendered. All babies are female until testosterone hits it’s blood stream and it starts to change into a boy. FACT. Also a fact: Sometimes for unknown reason or other hormone transfluxions, this baby reverts BACK to female. This is why so many people struggled with being gay or trans-gendered. I took testosterone, removed my breasts and have a beard and i’m losing my hair. I am also celibate.
Since in Heaven, we will as The Bible says: “We shall ALL Live as The Angels do, Being Neither female NOR male”.
And Our Religious that still do… Wear Their Order’s Habits of olde… Their Habit was always as a sign of their Great Faith in the life to come. A Public Sign of their Great Faith in The Life that comes after this short one, the one that will come to and for us all.
So then, May “I” become a Monk? May I become a member of an Order, though not LIVE IN Community, But be a vowed member of Community Order, say The Servites?
No Gender-Marker need be spoken. I could be a vowed Servite in The Black Habit and Take the Name Mary John (Jack).
I have tried to find an absolute Papal Document on this matter - and have come up empty. During confessions every Priest has a different answer to this question: May I Be a Vowed Member of an Order WHO I am?
In my 20’s when I learned who The Servites were, My heart finally smiled in absolute joy! This was THE Order I had sought! But as a female, I could not join the Sisters, for I know me. I am like a straight-male who was born with 'the short end of the stick (so to speak) and I knew then it would not be a Holy Decision to Live in Community with women. I would by My Nature fall in love with one in time, and God Help me if I placed myself in that situation.
So i let time go by, saddened by the fact that I could never BE male - Then I learned of the Surgery - upper chest surgery and was able to have it done… the hormones changed my body giving it facial hair and muscle tone, etc. My outside is the closest to WHO I am than it can be, and anyways what is in my pants is of NO Concern to you, or anyone else But Me. Though Living in Community with men, well i might for whatever reason become an unholy presence for some male friar. Who Knows.
But I live alone - own this home - and am now 40. Perhaps I am too old anyways.
But Where is OUR Place? Being gay, it isn’t about SEX. it’s who you Love.
Trans-gendered is that, along with (clearly) Gender! Look back on all the people you have loved sir? They were women? Congrats. you are not gay sir. Mine? Women. and I/WHO I AM remains male - where ever the gender-seed is, the gender-mind - the gender ism is, it is male. I can not change that - have tried for most of my life.
But now - today… What do The Papal Documents have to say about others like me?
Because there are many. Perhaps due to the hormones in our Milk… Perhaps in the 60’s and early 70’s it was like with me, the doctors of women with a history of miscarriages were given hormonal shots all the way through - though in my family case it was The RH Factor, and being o- I’d have lived regardless. But that’s neither important today.
Today I need to know: DO I have options… Or can I never be a Monk/or a Friar or even a Deacon?!
Was told it was up to the parish - or up to The Order - But Who do I ask to get to The Servite Head and ask?
Although I have met The Very Holy Servite, Father Peter Mary Rookey, 96 years old, give or take! of Chicago. But I have trouble getting him long enough to speak with him.
Any Priest here, could - would you take this up with him, and to whomever he says is above him? I want HIS Words though, since I know of His Holiness.
Now all is out here all out in the open.
Where/What does the Church have to say about all of this - and of me.
Are there options for me and others Like me? - or not a chance.
In Jesus Through Mary,
Jack Joseph
**
“Mercy is Highly under-rated”
It is no choice. Just as when you looked at your wife for the first time, or your husband to be first looked into your eyes, You Knew there was love there. The Heart chooses who it chooses. So for those who state they are gay, support them, love them, do not condemn them, they can read the bible just like you can.
What about those that are born with 2-genitals. Or none. Or they had both at birth but the parent’s not wanting a freak has an operation done to destroy one set… you know, they already had 2 girls so they make this one a boy. They have a 50-50 shot at getting it right.
But what happens when they get it wrong? My Mother was given hormones during her pregnancy with me - At 3 years old I remember clearly ripping off this frilly dress and being absolutely incensed that no one else could see the ‘obvious’ - that i wasn’t a girl, i was a boy!
I had relationships with boys, there were no childhood molestation nor were my parents animals. It just is what it is. No sin in WHO i am. Like the man attracted by say, cats. He must chose whether to follow God’s word - or that furry little cat into the alley.
silly, but you got the point.
Now people like me are called Transgendered. All babies are female until testosterone hits it’s blood stream and it starts to change into a boy. FACT. Also a fact: Sometimes for unknown reason or other hormone transfluxions, this baby reverts BACK to female. This is why so many people struggled with being gay or trans-gendered. I took testosterone, removed my breasts and have a beard and i’m losing my hair. I am also celibate.
Since in Heaven, we will as The Bible says: “We shall ALL Live as The Angels do, Being Neither female NOR male”.
And Our Religious that still do… Wear Their Order’s Habits of olde… Their Habit was always as a sign of their Great Faith in the life to come. A Public Sign of their Great Faith in The Life that comes after this short one, the one that will come to and for us all.
So then, May “I” become a Monk? May I become a member of an Order, though not LIVE IN Community, But be a vowed member of Community Order, say The Servites?
No Gender-Marker need be spoken. I could be a vowed Servite in The Black Habit and Take the Name Mary John (Jack).
I have tried to find an absolute Papal Document on this matter - and have come up empty. During confessions every Priest has a different answer to this question: May I Be a Vowed Member of an Order WHO I am?
In my 20’s when I learned who The Servites were, My heart finally smiled in absolute joy! This was THE Order I had sought! But as a female, I could not join the Sisters, for I know me. I am like a straight-male who was born with 'the short end of the stick (so to speak) and I knew then it would not be a Holy Decision to Live in Community with women. I would by My Nature fall in love with one in time, and God Help me if I placed myself in that situation.
So i let time go by, saddened by the fact that I could never BE male - Then I learned of the Surgery - upper chest surgery and was able to have it done… the hormones changed my body giving it facial hair and muscle tone, etc. My outside is the closest to WHO I am than it can be, and anyways what is in my pants is of NO Concern to you, or anyone else But Me. Though Living in Community with men, well i might for whatever reason become an unholy presence for some male friar. Who Knows.
But I live alone - own this home - and am now 40. Perhaps I am too old anyways.
But Where is OUR Place? Being gay, it isn’t about SEX. it’s who you Love.
Trans-gendered is that, along with (clearly) Gender! Look back on all the people you have loved sir? They were women? Congrats. you are not gay sir. Mine? Women. and I/WHO I AM remains male - where ever the gender-seed is, the gender-mind - the gender ism is, it is male. I can not change that - have tried for most of my life.
But now - today… What do The Papal Documents have to say about others like me?
Because there are many. Perhaps due to the hormones in our Milk… Perhaps in the 60’s and early 70’s it was like with me, the doctors of women with a history of miscarriages were given hormonal shots all the way through - though in my family case it was The RH Factor, and being o- I’d have lived regardless. But that’s neither important today.
Today I need to know: DO I have options… Or can I never be a Monk/or a Friar or even a Deacon?!
Was told it was up to the parish - or up to The Order - But Who do I ask to get to The Servite Head and ask?
Although I have met The Very Holy Servite, Father Peter Mary Rookey, 96 years old, give or take! of Chicago. But I have trouble getting him long enough to speak with him.
Any Priest here, could - would you take this up with him, and to whomever he says is above him? I want HIS Words though, since I know of His Holiness.
Now all is out here all out in the open.
Where/What does the Church have to say about all of this - and of me.
Are there options for me and others Like me? - or not a chance.
In Jesus Through Mary,
Jack Joseph
**
“Mercy is Highly under-rated”

