What Old Testament did Jesus and the 1st century BC use?

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A friend of mine told me the Jews didn’t even use the Septuagint so why did the Catholic Church use it as inspired. He stated Luther was correct in pulling it out of the Catholic bible. I understood that when the Septuagint was written and translated to Greek 200-300 BC majority of the Jews used it and the New Testaments quote many times from it and not the Hebrew Canon. (I have read “Where we got the Bible”) and even provided him a very good mp3 on (Where we got the bible historical and geographical, from PJPIISOE) but this only confused him more) I need to be able to show my separated brother where the direct/indirect quotes from the New Testament align with the Septuagint and not the Hebrew canon…also he mentioned other non-inspired books are quoted so my platform of reference from the new to old doesn’t mean a lot to him. Any suggestions?
 
Christ and His Apostles must have used the Greek Septuagint, as over 300 of the 350 quotations from the Old Testament contained in the New are taken from it.

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If you have the chance to go to a Catholic book store, buy the book Beginning Apologetics 1, “How to explain and defend the Catholic Faith” by Father Frank Chacon and Jim Burnham. It has about a page in there on why and proof that Christ and his followers used the Septuagint. A lot of good information in the series.

The Hebrew version was written later and was written by Jewish rabbis in reaction to the Christian Church. The rabbis rejected seven books found in the Septuagint. The question to your friend would be to ask which Old Testament would you rather use, the one that Jesus used or by the ones who rejected Christ and persecuted Christiantity.
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A friend of mine told me the Jews didn’t even use the Septuagint so why did the Catholic Church use it as inspired. He stated Luther was correct in pulling it out of the Catholic bible. I understood that when the Septuagint was written and translated to Greek 200-300 BC majority of the Jews used it and the New Testaments quote many times from it and not the Hebrew Canon. (I have read “Where we got the Bible”) and even provided him a very good mp3 on (Where we got the bible historical and geographical, from PJPIISOE) but this only confused him more) I need to be able to show my separated brother where the direct/indirect quotes from the New Testament align with the Septuagint and not the Hebrew canon…also he mentioned other non-inspired books are quoted so my platform of reference from the new to old doesn’t mean a lot to him. Any suggestions?
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I have that same series Beginning Apologetics I need to pull it out and reread it…also just read the “Bible Sabotage” which was pretty good info. The problem is they just make the clame and do not give any evidence ie a comparison as the link Todd Easton provided. Thanks everybody pls pray for me as I try and share the truth.
Brad
 
I think to say that “greek-only text is not valid for scripture” (which I believe was the jewish reason for rejecting the 7 books in their 1st century canon) is like saying the Jews were never exiled for 400 yrs in greek a speaking country.
 
Hi bcullum,

The Septuagint was translated from the Hebrew in the 2nd BC. It came about because the Jews outside Palestine no longer spoke Hebrew (or Aramaic) and wanted scripture that they understood. It is wrong to say that it was not used by the Jews; it was used by the Jews outside Palestine.

The Catholic Church accepts the recension of the Septuagint because it has been handed down to her from apostolic times. Period.

Verbum
 
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