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I needed to look the word CONGRUISM up … hmmmm… interesting. Thanks!
CONGRUISM
The theory of man’s co-operation with grace, first developed by Francisco Suárez (1548-1617) and St. Robert Bellarmine (1542-1621) and later adopted by the Jesuit order. According to congruism, the difference between efficacious and sufficient grace lies not only in the consent of the free will (Molinism), but also in the congruity or suitableness of a particular grace to the peculiar conditions of the one who receives the grace. When the grace suits the interior dispositions and external circumstances of a person, it becomes effective by the free consent of the will; otherwise it remains ineffective because it lacks free acceptance. As in Molinism, God foresees the congruity of the grace and its infallible success. Unlike Molinism, congruism places the emphasis not on man’s freedom but on the supremacy of the divine will in determining salvation. (Etym. Latin congruitas, congruity, fitness, suitability, becomingness.)

All items in this dictionary are from Fr. John Hardon’s Modern Catholic Dictionary, © Eternal Life. Used with permission.
 
Rudolfo said:
Who checked Jesuits? Are you crazy? No, possibly just not informed. If you ***really ***know what’s going on in that order, and you are a devout Catholic, I don’t believe you would want to join. This is not a long space to allow for complex details, but take as a caveat, and look into things VERY carefully. I am not yapping from nonsense on blogs, I know many Jesuits personally.
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My Archbishop is a Jesuit. I challenge you to find someone better Archbishop Prendergast.

For me, I chose Dominicans because I’m discerning the Lay Dominicans. The Friars of the Renewal sound super great,
 
Hard choice. I like the “can-do” practical mind set of the Jesuits, but also the intellectual/preaching of the Dominicans.
 
Jesuits all the way!
I love their intellectualism, their practical approach to faith, Ignatian spirituality, and they run some of the best universities out there! 👍
Plus, someone has to drive the guys in charge crazy 😉
 
as a Benedictine Oblate my choice is obvious but I ended up here simply because it is the secular association most readily available. As much as I love the Franciscans at the time I began considering this it was to hard to join the group here. The people I was working with at the time and admired the most (and still do) especially the Sisters of course drew me to the Oblates. I am a by the book person so I love the Holy Rule, I am and was already working toward more simplicity and the way I was introduced to the Rule applied to lay life worked then and still does.
 
I chose the Benedictines because I respect their rules on obedience.
 
My advice is to stay away from new communities. Be very careful of small unknown groups calling themselves “Carmelite” especially. The large well established orders are a better bet.
 
Catholicguy45 said:
My advice is to stay away from new communities.
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I belong to one of the ancient orders, but even so, why?
Catholicguy45 said:
Be very careful of small unknown groups calling themselves “Carmelite” especially.
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Being a Carmelite (and someone who is perhaps too inquisitive for their own good) I would again ask, why?
Catholicguy45 said:
The large well established orders are a better bet.
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And even though I belong to a large and well-established order I would once more ask, why?

In anticipation, and with best wishes. 🙂
 
I couldn’t vote because I’m both Dominican and Franciscan. 🙂 (yes it does work I promise!) I am also discerning with the Sister Servants of the Eternal Word.

JMJDTF+
~Betsy
 
Little_One0307 said:
I was disappointed to not find the Cistercian Order on here. I love their austerity and simplicity.

I withheld my vote because of that reason. But after the Cistercian spirituality, I find the Carmelite Order refreshing. I never felt drawn to active orders, and feel like I can relate more to the contemplative side of things.

God bless.
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Aren’t Cistercians a type of a Benedictine order? Or a better question would be, couldn’t that fall under the “Benedictine” choice?
 
Little_One0307 said:
I was disappointed to not find the Cistercian Order on here. I love their austerity and simplicity.

I withheld my vote because of that reason. But after the Cistercian spirituality, I find the Carmelite Order refreshing. I never felt drawn to active orders, and feel like I can relate more to the contemplative side of things.

God bless.
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There Benedictines of strict observance to the rule, while listed as a separate order they are technically still Benedictine as they follow the holy father Benedict and his rule, not any new form of the rule, just a strict observance of it.

Myself im torn between the Franciscans and the Benedictines, while I love the spirituality of the Benedictines and their contemplative life, I also love the active nature of the Franciscans, I’ll withhold my vote until I can make a firm choice (:
 
While all these orders are great in their own right, I have been discerning and in love with the Dominican Order. I am actually taking my first promises in December in the Dominican Laity.

What sets them apart from the rest for me, the Four Pillars (Study, Prayer, Community, Apostolates), love of Mary, Mother of God, and “Dominican” joy.

Much of my conversion story is centered around the Dominican Order and the more I learn about Saint Dominic and the Dominicans the more I saw myself identifying with the Order.

Please pray for me as I approach my first promises. I am ever excited to devote myself in following Christ through the Dominican Order.

God Bless,
Nikita
 
Netty1 said:
I have given this some thought already. I think I need a little bit more growth maybe, but certainly in the fullness of time, this is something I would dearly love to do. 👍
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Fantastic 🙂

I see that you are in England. If you can not find an abbey near you, the Benedictine monks at Norcia, Italia allow for “long distance” oblation. I have prayed for you 🙂
 
Netty1 said:
I have given this some thought already. I think I need a little bit more growth maybe, but certainly in the fullness of time, this is something I would dearly love to do. 👍
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I highly recommend Belmont Abbey or Ampleforth :D, I personally have a bias towards Belmont, but trust me, they shall welcome you as a Brother (albeit after a day or two) at either monastery (:. The other one I know of in the South of England is Douai Abbey, which Fr DeMallery of the FSSP hosts retreats and celebrates Mass there a couple times a year (high Mass with Priestly Brothers as Deacon and Subdeacon, and Fr as Celebrant, served by the brothers is just awe inspiring!)
 
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