Well, the snarky-ness aside, that’s generally not the language used. Depending on the communion, it is more like doctrine has its only basis in scripture. That’s what sola scriptura means.
What percentage of Protestant theology is based on the Bible?
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There was a problem grouping them together during the Reformation era.
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LostSheep7
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Most protestants read nothing but the Bible, but the more traditional ones usually study the Reformers and the Church Fathers.
I myself converted to the Catholic Faith reading the Church Fathers.
I myself converted to the Catholic Faith reading the Church Fathers.
I think you’d have a hard time proving this. While some may not be moved to read the ECF’s, they probably read lots of contemporary writers. Christian book stores sell more books than Bibles.
My point is that sometimes Catholics and others make this Bible Only / KJV Only thing a caricature of Protestants in general, and some evangelicals and Baptists in particular.
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MonteRCMS
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Tens of thousands of different Protestant “sects”.
I think there are few non-Catholic Christians who would disagree with this. I certainly don’t, but I also don’t see the Church as solely and exclusively in communion with the Bishop of Rome.
Which man? The one who declared for himself “ex cathedra” infallibility?
You see, lots of folks can be accused of that.
You don’t have to be convinced. Those who ascribe to it probably don’t care if you do.
And 240 some-odd Catholic Churches
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Maximilian75
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Who all hold essentially the same beliefs and doctrines, as opposed to Protestantism, which… does not
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FloridaAngler
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Yes, we do study the ECFs and hold them in high regard.
No, we don’t believe that.
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FloridaAngler
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Not true. We have the Bible, the ECFs, and hundreds, if not thousands of creeds, confessions, and catechisms.
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FloridaAngler
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No, more like a couple dozen.
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ErraticFaith
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Feel free to play apologist for heretics all you want. I have only an interest in Truth, not playing petty word games with you.
Luther was a historical idiot. That before we even bother entertaining the merits of his personal character. If I want to use him to personify the reformation. Be sure that I will.
Jesus Christ is the undisputed founder of the Church. Some pseudo-interpretation of a thousand years later, by ‘lunch buffet’ theologians no less, is irrelevant.
What you think about my way of expressing that statement doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Because yes, people can respond in kind.
Be sure I will listen to the Legacy of Jesus and those that followed. Long before I listen to stroppy old men, so deluded that they would strip books from cannon; just to win an argument that doesn’t stand alone.
Luther was a historical idiot. That before we even bother entertaining the merits of his personal character. If I want to use him to personify the reformation. Be sure that I will.
Jesus Christ is the undisputed founder of the Church. Some pseudo-interpretation of a thousand years later, by ‘lunch buffet’ theologians no less, is irrelevant.
What you think about my way of expressing that statement doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Because yes, people can respond in kind.
Be sure I will listen to the Legacy of Jesus and those that followed. Long before I listen to stroppy old men, so deluded that they would strip books from cannon; just to win an argument that doesn’t stand alone.
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FloridaAngler
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Of course you can know. You can know by examining the denomination’s teachings in light of scripture. You can know by examining the denomination’s teachings in light of the historic creeds, catechisms, and confessions of the Christian faith.
Due to a recent move, we’re in between churches right now, and the reason it’s taking us so long to find a new church is because we’re doing the very things you’re telling us we can’t do.
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FloridaAngler
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Actually, we are united on those doctrines defined in scripture as “essential”. While we may disagree on secondary doctrines or matters of adiaphora, we still agree on the essentials. It’s why we have the same Gospel, the same creeds, the same responsive readings, the same hymns, and preach in one another’s churches.
If you’d like to try to give an example of any two denominations that disagree over any of those doctrines defined in scripture as essential, please feel free.
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rcwitness
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I have come to believe that the more one subscribes to Sola Scriptura, the more one has to rely on Church authority to declare what writings are truly Scripture and which were not.
The Canonization of Scripture was not so simple at all. But to be able to say “This is the Word of God, nothing less, nothing more!” necessarily would mean assuming the authority to speak on behalf of God.
The Canonization of Scripture was not so simple at all. But to be able to say “This is the Word of God, nothing less, nothing more!” necessarily would mean assuming the authority to speak on behalf of God.
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FloridaAngler
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…says the guy who believes Luther founded Protestantism.
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Maximilian75
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Thank you for the clarification.
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MonteRCMS
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If English was good enough for Jesus, it is good enough for me.
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Vonsalza
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Well, “if it isn’t in the bible, it ain’t true” MOSTLY describes their views. Of course, there are loads of exceptions that they practice that are absent from scripture such as altar calls, youth groups and the formulaic “sinner’s prayer”. And obviously protestants have an issue with determining what exactly scripture says on any given issue since there is no authoritative interpreter for Protestantism.
A lot of your evangelicals will cite the Church Fathers. Augustine was cited all the time in my days hanging around the Baptist seminary. But obviously they were very selective about which parts of Augustine they quoted.
Sorry I’m late to the game.
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Theo520
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It sounds like you are suggesting the Church fathers deviate from scripture?
I thought they added context and meaning but didn’t contradict scripture.
I don’t see why a protestant can’t appreciate the writing of the Church Fathers, they also read modern religious writers to help explore their faith.
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