What Really Caused the Reformation?

[Contarini]

Okay, that’s great—start a thread on it.

This thread is on causes of the Reformation.

Proposition:

The cause of the Reformation was the unChristian intolerance of Luther, Zwingli, and Calvin.

Nothing you have responded to has even begun to refute this proposition.

Red herrings, sleight of hand, non sequiturs aside—how about either addressing this proposed cause of the Reformation or, if you concede it, propose an alternate cause for discussion?

If you want to get people to stop digressing from the thread topic, why have you participated in the discussion of Luther and Nazism, which clearly belongs in a thread on the effects, not the causes, of the Reformation!

I can’t see that you have even made an argument about the causes of the Reformation. How did Protestant “intolerance” cause the Reformation? If you mean simply in the sense that Protestants thought they were right and others were wrong and were unwilling to tolerate things such as the celebration of the Mass which they believed to be blasphemous idolatry, then sure, that was a cause of the Reformation. It was only “unchristian” in the sense that the Mass is not in fact idolatrous or blasphemous, so attacking it is unchristian. If you want to argue that invoking the power of the state to suppress public blasphemy and idolatry is un-Christian, you condemn most post-Constantinian Christianity. Do you really want to do that?

Edwin

 

[bobzills]

Have you read the book the “Hobbit” Remember the creatures that turned into Stone when the sun came up?

This is off topic

 

[bobzills]

A priest who refused to do his duty, refused to accept the correction of bishop and Pope, and was excommunicated for it.

The Catholic Church does get to decide which priests have valid sacraments.

And why are you calling a man father?

Because I thought that Catholic priests are to be addressed as “Father”?

 

[Michael_Francis]

Having drifted from topic. This thread is now closed.