What Role Do Catholics Play in Combatting Rape Culture?

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Are you blaming women for being raped because some have abortions? You do know rape happened plenty before the 60s, right?
 
You live in Australia; did you see how Eurydice’s rape and murder was handled? The headlines talk of how she went to the wrong place and essentially throw her under the bus. My brother knew her and he had to see “political cartoons” of her as a sad clown.
 
I haven’t seen the blaming media stories that you are referring to or the cartoon etc.
Maybe you can direct me to an article somewhere?
Personally though,regarding the horrible issue, I don’t agree with the women showing their outrage on Twitter who believe that the police were victim blaming women because the police said for women to have situational awareness when walking alone in secluded places at night.
This to me is just a common sense warning because they care about us women,so just because some misinterpret this as victim blaming,it is them that is in the wrong for misinterpreting.
I’m a woman too and I didn’t feel at all victim blamed by the police for cautioning.
 
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It’s a warning they never give to the men who get coward punched to death. It’s a cautioning that only applies to women. Lets look at how the paper treats a victim who is a man compared to a victim who is a woman;

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Didn’t the fellow “stray” into his attackers orbit? When men get attacked we change the term “king hit” to “coward punch”. When women get attacked we get told what we should have done to avoid it. And apparently have memorials vandalised; Video: Eurydice's memorial vandalised
 
if you want a rape culture go to an Islamic country, we dont have one here
 
In my 12 years of Catholic education, including innumerable warnings about sex outside marriage in its many forms I was never, ever, specifically told not to rape. I imagine this was the same for literally millions of Catholic boys.
 
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Unless women see the unborn and innocent as they are (not generalizing all women. But those women who persist to defend abortion and other sexual revolution extents alike.) As long as women persist to defend them, they are setting themselves up to disaster. Or more so, an indefensible position against rape. For, rape is violence. And, abortion is violence to an unborn human being. Both women and the unborn are victims. A child born out of rape, if aborted, would then be the next victim after the woman is victimized by the rapist. And hence, that is where I think the #metoo movement generally has the wrong advocates intermingled in the group. For the very reason those who support abortion jeopardize the #metoo movement, and every defensibility against rape. Since it is violent as an abortion is.
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It’s sounds like you are suggesting that women that are not against abortion are the cause of rape. As long as women defend abortion, they set themselves up to be raped? Women on both sides of the issue are raped. It has nothing to do with their belief either way because there is no connection except the one you have made up. Rape was here before abortion was legalized. It is violence against another person, female or male, and involves power.
 
Combat rape culture by reading and rereading “Mulieris Dignitatem” and blasting its message of human dignity everywhere you can. I should also read the link you provided, going to do that now.
 
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The term “Rape Culture” as it is being applied currently is also including things like cat-calling, regretting consensual sex, or even just speaking badly about a woman. Naturally, these things aren’t rape (whether good or bad, they are not the same).

Nonetheless, the role of Catholics in combating sexual immoralities is to start by being totally moral and chaste. No sex before marriage, recognizing what sex actually is according to God, no pornography of any kind, no masturbation, no contraception, being EMOTIONALLY chaste too…

The problem is when you do all these things, it’s common for people of the World to turn on you. They’ll get angry at you because then they’ll think you’re judging them. This happens all the time.

However, in promoting purity and exercising it, that is a good start in combating the raunchiness of the world.
 
gcshapero said:
The term “Rape Culture” as it is being applied currently is also including things like cat-calling, regretting consensual sex, or even just speaking badly about a woman. Naturally, these things aren’t rape (whether good or bad, they are not the same).
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I agree with most of what you said but those later two parts, consensual sex and people speaking badly of women, are not accused of being part of rape culture. The only people who tend to say they are are rape apologists trying to deny rape culture by making it’s claims look absurd.

As to catcalling; it sexual harassment plain and simple. It’s only purpose is to intimidate and make a power play, to contribute to women feeling unsafe on the street.

And it doesn’t matter what a person wears either; they will still have this intimidating thrown at them. Last time I was catcalled I was wearing men’s shorts that went to my knee and were quite baggy, rugby socks and joggers, a trench coat and mens t shirt (I’d just finished gym and it was a bit brisk so I had my coat); I wouldn’t call this alluring. But it still happened.
 
Simply untrue. Go to any women shelter and look at the stats. Many rape crimes happen in white, western, secular relation ships. Trust me, I’ve been there. We have rape culture enough here.
 
gcshapero said:
The term “Rape Culture” as it is being applied currently is also including things like cat-calling, regretting consensual sex, or even just speaking badly about a woman. Naturally, these things aren’t rape (whether good or bad, they are not the same).
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The point on catcalling and certain forms of speaking badly is sort of a broken windows theory of preventing rape. The idea is that you don’t start with “don’t rape people.” You start with “don’t act like you’re entitled to a woman’s attention” or “don’t talk about women like they’re objects” or “don’t pressure women who are telling you no.” The idea is that catcalling and objectifying talk and the like encourages a view where women are seen as objects for male pleasure, and that view in turn makes it easier to justify rape.
 
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as well as the prospect of one day sending my daughter off into a world that doesn’t always revere women or respect their bodies.
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The world doesn’t respect the bodies of everybody that is why everyone is encouraged to display them so we can look at naked bodies like doctors do - carelessly - so we can free-er. But not all of us can be doctors and rapes have increased instead of decreasing. Rape existed from the beginning. But the reason why everyone is still nit-picking at the 60;s is because some of its premises were, following Freud’s theory, that sexual violence was caused by sexual frustration.
Now sex is pretty much all-open-minded (in the European-culture based countries) and still rape exists so the entire mambo-jumbo about free sex diminishing violence of the sixties has been proven crap.
So tell your daughter to ignore fashion as much as she can (good luck with convincing her to do that, I have problems convincing my own self) and maybe take some self-defense classes. Rape is rape, is not just sexual assault. Is pure violence and a man who seriously wants to do it (whether for sex or just to assert power over you) will most likely paralyze your weaker body in the end unless you have something physical to defend yourself with.
About college parties - the social pressure is huge. The more you say no the more others (mainly girls) will insist and pressure you to join in. At this point idk… would it be a bad idea if you satisfied certain curiosities such as alcohol at home first? Because if she sees for herself that 2 glasses of wine simply take a lot of attention away from you and you simply aren’t all that aware anymore she will take it seriously and not just label it “mom said so but who knows…”
 
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I agree with most of what you said but those later two parts, consensual sex and people speaking badly of women, are not accused of being part of rape culture. The only people who tend to say they are are rape apologists trying to deny rape culture by making it’s claims look absurd.
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The CDC’s rape stats from 2014 includes regretting consensual sex as a form of rape. Prevalence and Characteristics of Sexual Violence, Stalking, and Intimate Partner Violence Victimization — National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, United States, 2011
Have you not seen this? This was all over the news years ago about how misleading the numbers got. That’s how they were able to conclude that 1 in 5 women on college campuses get raped. It’s a fabricated number. If it was true, I’d never in a million years send my kids to college – why would anyone believe that and then send their kids off to the lions?

Also search “Emma Sulkowicz, Columbia University, Mattress Girl” case.

There was a popular video (it appears to have been removed) which spoke about rape including speaking badly of someone. “When you insulted my mom, you raped me.” etc etc. I’ll get more information for you on that when I get a chance.

This isn’t rape apology – it’s knowing to divide up different subjects so that they can be addressed appropriately. I wouldn’t want to treat someone who has been insulted as a rape victim, nor do I want to treat a rape victim as someone who was merely insulted.
 
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I’m on my phone and about to head to bed but a quick skim didn’t show that section: could you point it out more specifically?
 
I won’t quote it since I don’t want to get flagged, but if you search for the methods, and also the use of alcohol, it shows up everyone saying how women who had drunk sex are counted as being raped. It doesn’t clarify specifically what this means, just that if they had sex while inebriated.

I’m not condoning drunkenness or casual sex in the slightest, but I think it’s pretty terrible to count this as rape, especially when this also included the guy being inebriated, but he’s counted criminal when they were equal in responsibility. (See Occidental College rape case from 2013).
 
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The article headline seems awful on the surface.
I haven’t read the full story though,but if it is how it sounds then it’s pretty disgusting how the media does things like this/use sensationalising headline without any concern to the victim/s,just to sell newspapers.

Regarding police warnings,the situation is different to one punch attacks and that is why they don’t give men in these situations warnings.
A rapist will usually attack in a a secluded area,in very dark lighting,where there is no one else around.
It makes particular sense for anyone walking in this sort of area to have situational awareness.

Unlike one punch attacks,which usually happen in the presence of others,drinking venues etc,they happen so suddenly and randomly that situational awareness would make no difference.
When people go to pubs they can have situational awareness,but usually this makes no difference,because there might be no signs or clues prior to the attack.Ie:the attacker may look and act just like everyone else,is in a public venue,and not seeming “shady” etc.

Perhaps a better analogy might be if there was a serial killer on the loose,I’m pretty sure that the police would caution both men and women to have situational awareness.
Or if a gay rapist was around in parks,I’m pretty sure they would tell men to be cautious.
 
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I’ll be honest; a person being drunk doesn’t sound like “regretted giving consent”.
 
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I’ll be honest; a person being drunk doesn’t sound like “regretted giving consent”.
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This was included in their survey and testimonies. I’d recommend searching for these stats. I don’t have them in front of me right now.

Nor does drunk sex sound like rape, correct?
 
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Shouldn’t men in places full of drunk people, that have shown to have a history of cowardly attacks, show more situational awareness then? Maybe they just shouldn’t go to such dangerous places (this also being advice often given to women).

And I hate to say it but victims of date rape also get told that they are the ones who should have more situational awareness. Because it’s not just dark parks where women get raped. I still remember being warned when I got to college to always go to the bathroom with a friend at the clubs just to avoid that kind of thing.
 
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