What role does the soul have in the body?

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We know that our material reality is sensed by our brains. Does the soul have any effect on our material existence? What effects?

Just curious about this. Thanks and God Bless.
 
Yes. The choices we make come from the power of our will which resides in the soul. The more we make the same choice, the more it becomes a habit, and along with that come physical changes in the brain. For example, if we choose to pursue physical pleasure as an end by the means of taking drugs and continue to do it, it will become a habit in the soul and an addiction in the body. Our brain will physically change to match the habit of the soul.
 
The brain and mind interface appears to be the point at which arbitration with the soul and matters spiritual rests. The soul is the spiritual and eternal you. The mind is known to be able to influence the nature of the brain and vice versa, so in like vein the soul in its spiritual capacity must also play out its part.
 
The soul is the life; but requires body to hold and express the life.

Animals likewise have a soul ( Latin word anima), which is the life. But the human soul goes one step further: it generates the cognitive or human mind.

ICXC NIKA
 
Since the soul is eternal and the corporeal is finite…I prefer to ask the question, “What role does the body have relative to the soul?”

Just a thought…

Peace
James
 
Since the soul is eternal and the corporeal is finite…I prefer to ask the question, “What role does the body have relative to the soul?”

Just a thought…

Peace
James
We will be given an eternal embodiment, however, so the first question is valid as well.

ICXC NIKA
 
We know that our material reality is sensed by our brains. Does the soul have any effect on our material existence? What effects?

Just curious about this. Thanks and God Bless.
The Church teaches that the soul and the body are so " bound up " with each other that the soul must be regarded as the " form " of the body. The soul and the body, together, make a person, a single unit called a human being. The unit itself is a human nature.

Thomas Aquinas teaches that since the soul has an act of existence of its own, the body receives its act of existence from the soul. Together they make one being. It is the unit, the man who functions but it is the soul alone which thinks, wills, receives grace for the whole.

Linus2nd
 
Since the soul is eternal and the corporeal is finite…I prefer to ask the question, “What role does the body have relative to the soul?”

Just a thought…

Peace
James
Beat me to it 😃

By analogy, the space suit that the astronauts wear when they are performing maintenance on the exterior of the International Space Station is a lifeless conglomeration of technology. Put a human being in it, and it can function in its environment. Without the soul, the human body is a dead collection of meat and organs. With the soul, the human body can function in its environment (depending, of course, on the condition of the body; some function better than others, and all deteriorate when they get older, as I am finding out every day). Conversely, without the body, the soul has no way of getting up to turn on the lights when it gets dark, or, indeed, of even realizing that it has gotten dark.
 
Beat me to it 😃

By analogy, the space suit that the astronauts wear when they are performing maintenance on the exterior of the International Space Station is a lifeless conglomeration of technology. Put a human being in it, and it can function in its environment. Without the soul, the human body is a dead collection of meat and organs. With the soul, the human body can function in its environment (depending, of course, on the condition of the body; some function better than others, and all deteriorate when they get older, as I am finding out every day). Conversely, without the body, the soul has no way of getting up to turn on the lights when it gets dark, or, indeed, of even realizing that it has gotten dark.
DAve - I love the analogy above…👍

Peace
James
 
We know that our material reality is sensed by our brains. Does the soul have any effect on our material existence? What effects?

Just curious about this. Thanks and God Bless.
The soul gives us life. All living beings, plant, animal, single-cell beings, etc, all have souls, but only us humans have rational souls. That means that only our soul can last after the body’s death, and that only our soul gives us reason and intellect. Non-rational souls perish with the body and do not give the possessor of the soul the ability to comprehend, learn, and think.
 
The soul gives us life. All living beings, plant, animal, single-cell beings, etc, all have souls, but only us humans have rational souls. That means that only our soul can last after the body’s death, and that only our soul gives us reason and intellect. Non-rational souls perish with the body and do not give the possessor of the soul the ability to comprehend, learn, and think.
Actually, it has been shown that animals can comprehend, learn and think; just never at the same level as human beings.

The souls is what gives us life. As mentioned, without a soul, our bodies are just empty shells. The soul is the image of God in us, eternal and made for love and out of love. An animal soul is temporary and passes with the death of the body and is made for the purpose of beauty and necessity of perserving life and balance within the universe.
 
Yeah I’m not so sure about the soul giving us cognitive ability. I mainly think that’s a function of the mind. Either way i’m curious if the soul has DIRECT effects in everyday life.
 
We know that our material reality is sensed by our brains.
We also know the existence of material reality is inferred by our minds from our sense perceptions but probably we shall never understand the nature of the relationship of the mind to the body or the soul to the mind.
Does the soul have any effect on our material existence? What effects?
There is a progression from inanimate molecules to bacteria to animals to persons that requires explanation. As there is no evidence that inanimate matter or bacteria or animals have free will or rational insight these powers must belong to the soul because although the apes have minds and are highly intelligent they are not regarded as insightful as human beings or in any way morally responsible for their actions. This means that the soul has a direct role in daily life; otherwise it would not make sense to distinguish saints from devils. 🙂
 
Depends what you mean by the mind.

In terms of the conscious, rational mind, this has always understood as being a dimension of the human soul. Therefore earlier generations spoke of the “rational soul.”

While other species, especially those with a brain in the human weight class, have a level of intelligence, none have the rational mind. This comes from the human soul.

We still say psychology (study of the soul) rather than noology (study of the mind) even though the second is actually meant.

ICXC NIKA
 
Depends what you mean by the mind.

In terms of the conscious, rational mind, this has always understood as being a dimension of the human soul. Therefore earlier generations spoke of the “rational soul.”

While other species, especially those with a brain in the human weight class, have a level of intelligence, none have the rational mind. This comes from the human soul.

We still say psychology (study of the soul) rather than noology (study of the mind) even though the second is actually meant.

ICXC NIKA
To answer the OP question, we must first ask ourselves, what is the soul? The way I approach this question is to recognize that we must first start with the dual nature of reality, namely, that reality consists of both a material and a spiritual aspect that can be viewed in this parallel comparison: material - matter - body vs. spiritual - nous - soul. I prefer the Greek “nous” (as in noology) to “spirit” because of the ambiguous connotations sometimes attached to the word “spirit”.

Nous is manifested as consciousness; thus we have some idea of the degree of its presence by the apparent consciousness it exhibits. All animals are conscious even though it is only easily observed in mammals. I contend that the nous is contained throughout the body. However, the increasing consciousness, hence increasing nous, observed throughout the animal kingdom is directly dependent on increasing cephalization (the complexity of the neuronal circuits in the brain).

What differentiates humans from the rest of the animal kingdom is the “mind”.

The mind, the object of thought, certainly is centered in the brain, so the brain must be an essential part of the mind. Other animals have brains but don’t have minds so the brain, although necessary, is not sufficient. The presence of a mind depends on the uniqueness of the human brain and that uniqueness comes from the part of the brain, the specific neuronal circuitry, that provides the human language instinct. We cannot think without words, at least, I can’t. The mind, then, is an interface between language instinct and the nous.

Memory (and at the age of 80 I am acutely cognizant of this) is an essential feature of the mind. Because the mind has a dual nature, I contend there are two modes of memory, a “material” memory in the brain and a “perceptual” memory in the nous. Material memory stores symbols, words, numbers, and any other informational element and their relationships. Perceptual memory stores concepts, percepts, meanings, qualia, emotions, feelings, and other sensual patterns such as music. And to add symmetry to the direction in which the mind is focused: as the brain is the portal for the senses (tangential insight); the nous is the portal for God’s grace (radial insight). Now the soul.

Each soul is associated with an individual; it acquires identity; it is eternal; it has a form. It’s primary function is as a recipient of grace. As each soul responds or ignores grace’ it either grows or shrinks. We know the health of our soul by the amount of awe, peace and joy in our lives. Unlike pride, pleasure, and self-satisfaction that are temporary rewards, awe, peace and joy are cumulative. With know habitual grace from the awe experienced through the wonder of God’s creation; we know sacramental grace from the peace we experience through piety; and we know actual grace from the joy that comes with the act of giving.

Hence the role of the soul is to utilize grace in the development and growth of our intellect, values, and will in the service of God
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or as section 1705 of Catechism of the Catholic Church as it appears on the Vatican website states"

"By virtue of his soul and his spiritual powers of intellect and will, man is endowed with freedom, an 'outstanding manifestation of the divine image.’ "

Yppop
 
To answer the OP question, we must first ask ourselves, what is the soul? The way I approach this question is to recognize that we must first start with the dual nature of reality, namely, that reality consists of both a material and a spiritual aspect that can be viewed in this parallel comparison: material - matter - body vs. spiritual - nous - soul. I prefer the Greek “nous” (as in noology) to “spirit” because of the ambiguous connotations sometimes attached to the word “spirit”.

Nous is manifested as consciousness; thus we have some idea of the degree of its presence by the apparent consciousness it exhibits. All animals are conscious even though it is only easily observed in mammals. I contend that the nous is contained throughout the body. However, the increasing consciousness, hence increasing nous, observed throughout the animal kingdom is directly dependent on increasing cephalization (the complexity of the neuronal circuits in the brain).

What differentiates humans from the rest of the animal kingdom is the “mind”.

The mind, the object of thought, certainly is centered in the brain, so the brain must be an essential part of the mind. Other animals have brains but don’t have minds so the brain, although necessary, is not sufficient. The presence of a mind depends on the uniqueness of the human brain and that uniqueness comes from the part of the brain, the specific neuronal circuitry, that provides the human language instinct. We cannot think without words, at least, I can’t. The mind, then, is an interface between language instinct and the nous.

Memory (and at the age of 80 I am acutely cognizant of this) is an essential feature of the mind. Because the mind has a dual nature, I contend there are two modes of memory, a “material” memory in the brain and a “perceptual” memory in the nous. Material memory stores symbols, words, numbers, and any other informational element and their relationships. Perceptual memory stores concepts, percepts, meanings, qualia, emotions, feelings, and other sensual patterns such as music. And to add symmetry to the direction in which the mind is focused: as the brain is the portal for the senses (tangential insight); the nous is the portal for God’s grace (radial insight). Now the soul.

Each soul is associated with an individual; it acquires identity; it is eternal; it has a form. It’s primary function is as a recipient of grace. As each soul responds or ignores grace’ it either grows or shrinks. We know the health of our soul by the amount of awe, peace and joy in our lives. Unlike pride, pleasure, and self-satisfaction that are temporary rewards, awe, peace and joy are cumulative. With know habitual grace from the awe experienced through the wonder of God’s creation; we know sacramental grace from the peace we experience through piety; and we know actual grace from the joy that comes with the act of giving.

Hence the role of the soul is to utilize grace in the development and growth of our intellect, values, and will in the service of God
.
or as section 1705 of Catechism of the Catholic Church as it appears on the Vatican website states"

"By virtue of his soul and his spiritual powers of intellect and will, man is endowed with freedom, an 'outstanding manifestation of the divine image.’ "

Yppop
I like your approach to this issue. It makes a good amount of sense. One point I would like to put up though is this:

Apes and other mammals show a great deal of intelligence. One ape in particular was able to communicate with sign-language and convey emotion. (KoKo the Gorilla).

Wouldn’t this show that animals have a “mind” as well?

P.S: I’m arguing for the sake of arguing. I really want too see this topic from all different prospectives.

Thanks for the answers!
 
Bobby Ray - Not just the great apes appear to have cognition and emotion, it appears that Orcas and perhaps other dolphins do as well. This does not mean of course that they make great philosophers, or that their cognition is that well developed. I have yet to be convinced that any other species than human ever asks - ‘why?’ -And even ‘how’, when other than humans are faced with a new situation is very much a hit or miss scenario, if anything at all.
 
Bobby Ray wrote:
I like your approach to this issue. It makes a good amount of sense. One point I would like to put up though is this: Apes and other mammals show a great deal of intelligence. One ape in particular was able to communicate with sign-language and convey emotion. (KoKo the Gorilla).
Wouldn’t this show that animals have a “mind” as well?
P.S: I’m arguing for the sake of arguing. I really want too see this topic from all different prospectives.
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Not just the great apes appear to have cognition and emotion, it appears that Orcas and perhaps other dolphins do as well. This does not mean of course that they make great philosophers, or that their cognition is that well developed. I have yet to be convinced that any other species than human ever asks - ‘why?’ -And even ‘how’, when other than humans are faced with a new situation is very much a hit or miss scenario, if anything at all.
In regard to the intelligence/mind/soul of an animal, especially, those that exhibit amazing skill at interpreting commands, it would appear that some intelligence is present. However, I would argue that animals do not have a mind, at least not in the way I define mind. They may have what might be called an incipient soul in contrast to a human’s rational soul.

Intelligence is manifested primarily by two properties: memory and reason (or as I prefer centripetal insight). The intelligence manifested by animals such as apes, dolphins, and border collies is primarily an exercise of the memory; they cannot reason, a catch-all term for a variety of mental exercises such as analysis, judgment, creativity, imagination, and other examples of thought. Animals rely solely on their perceptual memory to react to sensual (name removed by moderator)uts. In other words, animals react to “signs”, whereas humans react to both “signs” and “symbols”.

Although words are usually used as symbols, they are at times used as signs, for example when someone yells “fire” in a theater.When an animal reacts to a spoken word, the animal senses the word as a sign. Hence, when animals exhibit “intelligent behavior” they most likely are interpreting signs not symbols. They are utilizing learned responses stored in memory; they are not utilizing the “reason” part of intelligence.

When animals exhibit what appears to be emotion, it is not the response to grace of which only humans are capable. Emotion is a property of nous, which in domestic animals can be induced by something other than grace, for example, by loyalty to the person that feeds them…

Yppop
 
Bobby Ray wrote:

Mount Carmel wrote:
In regard to the intelligence/mind/soul of an animal, especially, those that exhibit amazing skill at interpreting commands, it would appear that some intelligence is present. However, I would argue that animals do not have a mind, at least not in the way I define mind. They may have what might be called an incipient soul in contrast to a human’s rational soul.

Intelligence is manifested primarily by two properties: memory and reason (or as I prefer centripetal insight). The intelligence manifested by animals such as apes, dolphins, and border collies is primarily an exercise of the memory; they cannot reason, a catch-all term for a variety of mental exercises such as analysis, judgment, creativity, imagination, and other examples of thought. Animals rely solely on their perceptual memory to react to sensual (name removed by moderator)uts. In other words, animals react to “signs”, whereas humans react to both “signs” and “symbols”.

Although words are usually used as symbols, they are at times used as signs, for example when someone yells “fire” in a theater.When an animal reacts to a spoken word, the animal senses the word as a sign. Hence, when animals exhibit “intelligent behavior” they most likely are interpreting signs not symbols. They are utilizing learned responses stored in memory; they are not utilizing the “reason” part of intelligence.

When animals exhibit what appears to be emotion, it is not the response to grace of which only humans are capable. Emotion is a property of nous, which in domestic animals can be induced by something other than grace, for example, by loyalty to the person that feeds them…

Yppop
Animals can also feel the loss of a buddy and get depressed. They have some emotion but not all. They can not truely love as humans do but they can love in simple aspects.
 
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