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ajpirc
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What should Catholic politicians do?
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karebear92
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I think it should be left up to the Church. I don’t support gay-marriage, but I believe we must follow the Constitution. There needs to be a separation of Church and State. Many came to our country seeking religious freedom. If we force our religious beliefs on others, we would be doing the same thing people came to our country trying to escape.
I can’t vote, but I would also would vote with other. I don’t think separating Church and State is the same thing as ignoring it.
I can’t vote, but I would also would vote with other. I don’t think separating Church and State is the same thing as ignoring it.
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followingtheway
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I would post “other” because it’s a tough decision.
On one hand, the Bible condemns it (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Timothy 1:10, Deuteronomy 23:17, and Jude 7) and the Church condemns it (CCC 2357-2359).
But then again how are we going to explain to all the Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Shintoists, Taoists, Confucianists, Scientologists, Atheists, Agnostics, Pagans and Wiccans in America
And then again some Scientists and people say they’re born that way and can’t change
I’m pretty much neutral on the whole subject.
On one hand, the Bible condemns it (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Timothy 1:10, Deuteronomy 23:17, and Jude 7) and the Church condemns it (CCC 2357-2359).
But then again how are we going to explain to all the Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Shintoists, Taoists, Confucianists, Scientologists, Atheists, Agnostics, Pagans and Wiccans in America
And then again some Scientists and people say they’re born that way and can’t change
I’m pretty much neutral on the whole subject.
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roseofshannon
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vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html
This is what the Papa has to say.
This is what the Papa has to say.
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Corki
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Other -** Keep **it illegal as it has been since before our nation was founded, not just because God is against it, but because it is alien to the moral fiber of our society and to the stability of the family.
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Joe_5859
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I picked other. The phrase “make it illegal” is a bit misleading as that implies that it is already legal. That is not the case for most states.
Catholic politicians should not force their beliefs upon their constituents, but they do need to uphold the natural moral law. Part of fulfilling this responsibility is to defend marriage as it is in reality (between one man and one woman).
It’s not a matter of “Because God said so” but a matter of respecting human nature. The case can be made against same sex marriage based on reason alone using the natural moral law.
Thank you RoseofShannon for posting the link to the excellent document from the Holy See. That document articulates things very nicely.
Catholic politicians should not force their beliefs upon their constituents, but they do need to uphold the natural moral law. Part of fulfilling this responsibility is to defend marriage as it is in reality (between one man and one woman).
It’s not a matter of “Because God said so” but a matter of respecting human nature. The case can be made against same sex marriage based on reason alone using the natural moral law.
Thank you RoseofShannon for posting the link to the excellent document from the Holy See. That document articulates things very nicely.
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LPS
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I posted “other” based on this passage.
1 Cor 5
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. 12 **What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? **Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
Politicians are “leaders” in the world, not in the Church. As members of the Church they should always vote their conscience when a vote is placed before them, but I don’t believe they should try to force “the world” to “be Christian.”
1 Cor 5
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. 12 **What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? **Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
Politicians are “leaders” in the world, not in the Church. As members of the Church they should always vote their conscience when a vote is placed before them, but I don’t believe they should try to force “the world” to “be Christian.”
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smichhertz
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No society has the authority to legalize gay marriage. Any law the encourages homosexual behavior is contrary to God’s law. God’s law trumps any human law. Therefore, any country that recognizes gay “marriage” or civil unions ultimately goes against its own authority. As Jesus said Himself, “You have no authority over Me, except what was given to you from above”. Whether they recognize it or not, all authority comes from God, and one day all authority will be returned to God and on that day each will be accountable for what was done with the authority that was granted to them.
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karebear92
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Sorry, I didn’t really answer for all politicians; more just my belief on how our government should approach the issue (and the 2012 election). If a Catholic politician must vote on the issue of the legalization of gay-marriage, they should vote against it, as they believe it is morally wrong. But the current way of handling it will only lead to more attention being put onto the homosexuality issue. If, however, the government were to step out of the debate and allow all religions and churches to make their own decisions, the debate would essentially end. On the other hand, I also realize that this could end up causing a lot of issues, such as polygamy, underage marriage, and the creation of more “churches” to support the gay community, so it could end up being counterproductive. I don’t know what to think anymore.
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thistle
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Excellent. I just finished reading it. No Catholic politician can claim they don’t know what they should and shouldn’t do.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html
This is what the Papa has to say.
The Pope makes it clear they must vote against gay marriages if legislation is being proposed and if it is already in law they must make their opposition to such legislation clear.
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mdgspencer
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They should not vote to make it legal.
It would be like making burglary legal. Both are intrinsically wrong. In neither case should Catholic politicians think they are imposing their convictions on others.
It would be like making burglary legal. Both are intrinsically wrong. In neither case should Catholic politicians think they are imposing their convictions on others.
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valentino
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If your christian you should be against it also because we feel its bad for society.
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ajpirc
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That’s like saying all Christians are against abortion or artificial contraception. Not all denominations agree with the Catholic Church on morals.
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Newbie2
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But alas, many of them don’t…
True, but most of them are on board with “homosexual marriage”.
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Swiss_Guy
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That begs the question of how far off the mark can you be and still be a Christian?
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