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Eden
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Morning_star, you are a courageous person. May you be blessed abundantly.
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Morning star - I had to read your post several times to understand, but I do understand now. Thank you.
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cyberjacques
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This is an excellent point that needs to be emphasized more often. You hear in the liberal media so often that Muslim violence is the result of an oppressed people trying to protect their way of life the only way they know how. As Eden has pointed out, this is a lie. It’s true that many of the field combatants that Islam fields are indeed uneducated and poor, but the ones running the show, and the ones carrying out operations abroad are most certainly educated people, usually Western educated, and often from wealthy families.
Morning_star hit the nail right on the head. The whole point is that Muslims are NOT remaining silent. They don’t say anything about the violence because they have nothing to say. But as soon as someone insults Islam, all those so-called “moderate” Muslims come out of the woodwork with stuff like this.
Those are Muslims in Europe, fluent in English. They’re not oppressed, and they’re not silent. People keep waiting for them to denounce the violence, but since they don’t hear it they say the “moderate” Muslims aren’t speaking out. Oh, they’re speaking out, alright! And it’s in support of the violence. Not to mention the fact that even the ones who say nothing about anything are giving their consent through silence. There’s a legal term for this, it’s Consent by Omission.
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morning_star777
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i want to say just 1 thing that dew muslim ppl are moderate.but maximum of them r violent.cuz their quran teach violence.sura4:5,29,38,39.mr planten 1 of my muslim fellow denied that.he tried to prove it another way.but if u will read quran u will find the truth.its a bitter truth for every muslim that their scripture taught violence.&specially violence towards jew.so which scripture can teach violence then its clear that how will be the ppl.
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morning_star777
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sorry i made mistake.i wrote sura4:5,29,38,39 bt it must be sura9:5,29,38,39.i apologize for my mistake
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cyberjacques
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There are a tiny handful of truly peaceful Muslims, like this guy, but read how the rest of his mosque reacted when he dared to actually speak out against Muslim violence.
And he’s the only one I can think of who actually tried! If someone could point out some more, that would be helpful.
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morning_star777
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it was my mistake then i have edited.this sura is 9 nt 4.but you are right.if you will tell them they will cut you
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The koran is rife with violence against the infidels.
#1. There is absolutely nothing ‘holy’ about the koran.
#2. There is nothing peaceful about it - it is a book of battle tactics against the infidel.
Since most don’t want to read it for themselves, here is a list of intolerant teachings in the Koran: faithfreedom.org/Articles/quran_teaches.htm
start with post #186 on this page for koran’s violence:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=238092&page=13
What should we do? At least in our own country we should stop all this segregation that the muslims are reintroducing into our nation. Segregation was stopped decades ago and now they are reintroducing it. And they keep saying it is due to religious differences - it is due to them thinking we are dirty.
Stop giving them separate bathrooms, footbaths, etc. They can pray at home.
Make sure they are not given tax funded schools and to integrate them instead of allowing them to segregate! If one wants to eat ham around them - so what!!? Eat it - no one is asking them to eat it.
Stop with the fairy tales about mohammed and islam in our history books. We should talk about all the genocide that islam has brought about as we talk about the genocide of the Nazis. We should also tell the truth about mohammed - he was a rapist, enslaver, torturer, thief, liar and a murderer. If it offends muslims - well, maybe they might think twice about being a muslim - but to stop telling history as it should because it offends - well, it offends me that to this very day they are enslaving many and slaughtering Christians in Africa, Europe, Southeast Asia and also the Hindus in India, etc.
Stop allowing saudi arabia to give funds to our Universities, media, etc so they in turn push wahabbism. Kick out the MSA from our Universities since they have a direct tie to terrorists - the muslim brotherhood who are tied directly to hamas, etc.
Kick out CAIR or any other organization they morph into if they want to disband and reorganize with a different name which they will do if allowed. Stop the frivolous lawsuits by them when they don’t like something, eg: they intimidate and terrorize owners of websites because they allow Fitna on them - when there is nothing misleading about Fitna. I noticed that the websites put Fitna back on their websites, such as Liveleak.
We either have to get a backbone and start standing up for our society or go the way of every other country that has allowed muslims immigrants into their country. And if a muslim mosque is under surveillance, or a school of theirs has been told to ban a book make sure to follow up and that they haven’t zeroxed the book anyway - this has happened in a school of theirs up in either Minnesota or Michigan - I can’t remember where though.
And lastly, if muslims are committing crimes then start forcing the issue that everyone knows about it - stop this politically correct nonsense that we might offend them. They think that putting forward this false facade of purity is going to hide the stink of their violence against us and the hatred their koran spouts against us. That is what should be banned - us not saying who is doing what to whom!
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morning_star777
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lets back to the title of this thread."wat should we do?"actually western country should stop the immigration of muslim.west should stop their extreme democracy if they want to be save.neither islam will devour christianity and the freedom of west using the western democracy.
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Acutally, that is not true that the muslims will will not devour us. They use democracy to their own ends. Look what they have done to lebanon. To the Gaza - and even in Iraq, pakistan, etc - they vote in their radicals.
Their plans in the West, which includes Europe and the USA, and Canada are to group into areas - as they are doing in Michigan, L.A., Dearborn, some areas of Minnesota, Florida, and the mid-West such as Oklahoma, and vote in their own. This way they can start getting their sharia law into our coffers. They also want to be able to get over 7,000 of their own into offices around the USA, to infiltrate our organizations such as the FBI/CIA/Pentagon, etc.
The best book for this info is ‘A Never Ending War’ by Michael Cappi.
They are already infiltrated into our Universites and also some school boards which enable to them to put their versions of islam and mohammed into the school books which are more like fairy tales than the truth. The MSA is in our Universities and have ties to the muslim brotherhood - there is a whole series on that in frontpagemag.com - do searches on ‘MSA Universities’.
They distort our freedoms and our way of life and the best way to see what they do is to see what they have done to other countries that were free and Lebanon is a very, good example. Brigette Gabriel’s book, ‘Because They Hate’ is a good look into what they do.
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morning_star777
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actually if they will pass us with their high birth rate then surely they will vote their ppl and then they will give priority the islamic law&then day by day they will take our countries under their horrible sharia law.slowly but surely if we wont aware soon.they already took constantinople.if they will capture rome and other western city or town then?oh jesus!they are using slow poison.we have to stop them.we have to stop muslims
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morning_star777
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1 important thing i forgot.muslims are now creating love drama&then the time of marriage they are emotionally black mailing their christian lovers then converting them.though few christians are converting in this way but its happening.actually its a nasty policy of muslims to convert other ppl to islam.and with their high birth rate surely they will pass us.and then the catastrophe will come.so we have to aware and control muslim immigration
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