What signs of climate change do you see

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This IS NOT a post about the politics of Climate Change. There are enough of those on CAF to wade through.

This is a post about what physical manifestations are seen in our daily lives

Australia has experienced a very dry winter.
The result is early bushfires. We are in for one of the worst bushfire seasons on record. And that’s saying something , given the Black Saturday Fire Complexes.

Our largest river system is turning eutrophic, and has been for a number of years. Acid mud is causing a lot of issues.

On the upside of climate change , crops traditionally grown in warmer growing zones are now viable and very economically beneficial further south.
 
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I’ve noticed here in the middle of the United States, winters have been less severe- relatively. Where I am, we used to get much more snow during my younger years (10-15 years ago). Last year, I can count on one hand how many serious snowstorms there were. There are also many more random warm days than there has been in the past. Fall weather is lasting longer and spring is coming earlier. It seems to be similar in the state next over east where my grandma lives.

Can’t say much else about the rest of the year, this year was actually a pretty year overall following winter. The weather lasted pretty nice until June like it used to, and has been more steady. Enough rain, not too much.

I think further west there is less moisture and more dry fires such as in colorado and california. I know my apple tree in my yard hasn’t taken the weather of these past few years well. I think it’ll have to be cut down soon, there is a lot of dead on it unfortunately and it seems to be spreading.
 
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Some of the western US fires are due to poor forest management.

I don’t see any signs of climate change.

People point out things and then they turn out to be false.
 
This isn’t for arguing for or against. It’s not a political thread. It’s observational.

With the Black Saturday fires in Australia, we had drought, and a series of heat waves, heat waves that were knocking marsupials out of trees, and drying up what was left of water storage.

Then on black Saturday a fire complex took hold with behaviour never before documented. Many fires started across the state. Some deliberately lit, some due to sparks from power lines, some because people were parking cars or driving through paddocks and their exhausts or engines starting fires due to the heat on the dry grass, some due to ember attack.

Now there were more then 400 individual fires on this day. They could be seen from space when the complexes joined up. Over one million one hundred thousand acres were burnt out. 178 people died.

These wall of flame these fires generated, and its behaviour, including generating its own weather - lightening storms, was something never seen anywhere globally.

These fires , and those we are experiencing already this season are a result of the changing climate. - hotter and drier, and traditional seasons moving.

Nothing would have stopped those fires. Yes clean the understory of the bush, watch the fires move at a higher level. They were sucking all oxygen out of the air and burning everything. Radiant heat was killing at 2 km in front of the fire front, and melting plastics.

This years winter broke more than 620 heat records. It’s the driest winter on record. And across the nation it’s been 2 degrees above average. That’s changing climate.
 
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I couldn’t begin to say what is caused by climate change vs what is normal variation in climate - cyclical or not.

What I could go on and on about, and IMO is much more obvious to see, are things like poor land management, invasive plants and animals, pollution, and inhuman management of animals.
 
Floods.
A change in the intensity of storms.
The temperatures have gone up. Summers have higher temperatures ,short perhaps but very intense. It isn t as cold as it used to be in Winter.
Very concrete episodes where the elderly do not have any memory of similar things.
The hail and tornado that destroyed part of our house,nothing of the sort ever,and that house is from 1879, the whole of the ranch is even older perhaps 1830 or about.
Not the walls proper,because they are about 40 cm wide,some cement,some adobe as was the construction material of the time.
Yes,eucaliptos uprooted have happened but big old talas and other sort of trees some real huge?
Also isolated due to floods…and this wasn t the worse region with floods. Our neighbour had to use boats to get in and out…Inedit.
Near the cordillera ,where some family live,periods of draught are longer .
There has been a fire that destroyed 1 million and a half hectareas from lightning last Summer.
Yes,many changes and shifting in seasons.
And more need to get up to the changes to avoid disasters at a local level.
It is good that we can say here the changes we see.,whether we can explain them or not…
Thanks ,Rose.
 
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I have seen signs of climate change though I have not seen global climate change. Our winters have fewer days that it freezes. that is the one that stand out the most.
 
We are only going to observe changing climate at a local and regional level. Unless of course, we travel internationally year after year.
 
Most, if not all, of the phenomena mentioned are the results of variations in local weather. Climate change is real, and it has been going on throughout the whole history of the planet. As I have said repeatedly, it’s a climate, and change is something that climates do. However, the changes take place on a global scale, both geographically and chronologically. Within my adult lifetime, I have seen nothing that I could point to as a sign of climate change.

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We are only going to observe changing climate at a local and regional level.
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One thing this thread might do is bring in someone whose climate has cooled over the decades. The only problem with it is that valid observations are kind of limited to stagnate old people, in other words, curmudgeons.

I have lived in the same place 57 years, so I qualify.
 
You have to find someone who lives out there in rural God’s country.

There is a thing called an Urban Heat Island … so that the area immediately around a city generates heat.
 
Oh monte, that’s pretty easy, considering the average age of CAF chatters

Yes pnewton you old codger you!
 
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Most, if not all, of the phenomena mentioned are the results of variations in local weather. Climate change is real, and it has been going on throughout the whole history of the planet. As I have said repeatedly, it’s a climate, and change is something that climates do. However, the changes take place on a global scale, both geographically and chronologically. Within my adult lifetime, I have seen nothing that I could point to as a sign of climate change.
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Variation in local and regional weather leads to a change in the climate. This is not a political thread, in this thread, it’s quintessential to seperate ourselves from political rhetoric.

For example , change in local and regional weather patterns have lead to failing crops and farmers esp wine growers, growing varietals that were traditionally and historically unsuccessful in the local climate zone.
 
I saw something this summer. Some concrete walkways had buckled up really high this summer, which was probably due to the extreme heat and drought conditions in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas. We usually do have droughts and heat, but those walkways have never buckled up like that before (they are about 12 years old).

Several years ago a friend in Germany was telling us about not getting any fruits on her apple tree that summer, which she thought was the strangest thing. In another context she told us how mild and warm the winter had been. I remembered reading about how apple trees need cold winters to produce fruits (which is why you don’t see them in tropical and subtropical areas). I also remember reading about how GW is making winters warmer at a faster rate than summer warming.

Luckily we haven’t had any serious hurricanes here for a few years.
 
For the first time ever , in early Spring, some parts of the country are going to hit very high temperatures
, records are going to be set with some places getting over 40 Celsius, and the fire danger map is not looking good
 
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Fruit trees need a certain number of days below 4 Celsius to set fruit. Real time farming problems
 
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ah the greatest trick in the Viking world Monte .

What happened was , the myth goes, they settled 2 territories. they named the ice locked no good for farming territory Greenland. They named the good farming land Iceland.

It worked for a long time. remember they were raiders and farmers. or the other myth of Eric the Red.

but seriously Eric the Red was a clever diplomat and leader.
 
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Roseeurekacross said:
This isn’t for arguing for or against. It’s not a political thread. It’s observational.
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And yet the premise of the topic assumes a fact that may not be there at all.
Perhaps there should be some clarity added here to prevent the interpretation of a politically charged question.
 
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