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Matt.26 Verses 26 to 30

26]"Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, "Drink of it, all of you; “for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.”
  1. What sins are forgiven?
  2. How?
  3. What sins are NOT forgiven?
  4. Why?
  5. If Communion is received ONLY under the form of the Sacred Bread [no wine/Sacred Blood] are the sins still forgiven?
 
The only sin that cannot be forgiven is to deny the holy spirit.
 
Don’t worry about not receiving communion under both species. The church teaches that communion is the body, blood, soul, and divinity of the Lord. Additionally, in traditional catholicism, the people do not receive the Precious Blood…that is a Novus Ordo thing.
 
The sacrifice of the cross is for the forgiveness of all sins.

No sin is forgiven that is not repented of.

Receiving Holy Communion forgives venial sin, though theologians are divided as to exactly how. Receiving Holy Communion does -not- forgive mortal sins, that is what Baptism and Confession are for. Receiving in mortal sin is a mortal sin itself. :eek:

You are to be as lily white as you can be before receiving Communion.

It is worth mentioning even baptism does not forgive sins until they are repented of. If you do not repent certain sins and are baptized, they will be forgiven later if you repent them, a ‘delayed effect’ of baptism. 🙂
 
The only sin that cannot be forgiven is to deny the holy spirit.
***Indeed that is TRUE. And it means denial of God is choosing hell.

However that was not the OPQ:)***

Love and prayers,
Pat
 
It is worth mentioning even baptism does not forgive sins until they are repented of. If you do not repent certain sins and are baptized, they will be forgiven later if you repent them, a ‘delayed effect’ of baptism. 🙂
How can this be?

Unless the Baptism is ministered to in a very unlikely circumstance, all sins are forgiven during Baptism, a transition from new death to new life.

One way I can think of the unlikely circumstance is perhaps when Baptism if forced upon a person like in a time of war where the captured enemies are forcibly baptized, which in any case will not make it a valid Baptism. I mean, we cannot baptize a person who does not want to.

All sins are forgiven in Baptism and any sins committed after Baptism even if they are the same ones will not be forgiven until after repentance, specifically after going for the Sacrament of Confession.
 
This is because -no sins are forgiven without repentance by God- period. Ever. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

So if someone were to come to baptism for example, repenting of murder, but not repenting of adultery, the person would be forgiven the first, but not the second – until the person later, actually repented of it.

The grace of baptism would be waiting to efface it, but God does not make men righteous without men’s will to be so.
 
Matt.26 Verses 26 to 30

26]"Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, "Drink of it, all of you; “for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.”
  1. What sins are forgiven?
  2. How?
  3. What sisn are NOT forgiven?
  4. Why?
  5. If Communion is received ONLY under the form of the Sacred Bread [no wine/Sacred Blood] are the sins still forgiven?
Until some theologians specifically correct me, this is my personal understanding on the OPQs.

All sins are forgiven except of course that sin of blaspheming against the Holy Spirit which essentially is a rejection of the action of God that has been brought about in his plan of salvation. Specifically, it is an unforgivable sin to attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to that of the Evil One, because by doing that not only we reject all that God does but falsely attributes to Satan things he does not do but what God does.

The saying here “which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins” should not be taken in isolation of the Eucharist but in the understanding that Jesus gave his life for our salvation. It is through this action that we are saved and so by receiving his body and blood physically we are remembering this very act of salvation – the giving of his body to us for our sin on the cross.

Thus to receive the Eucharist has to be done in the context of the rest of the Sacraments, like we cannot receive it unless in the state of grace; which require us to go for the Sacrament of Penance.

God bless.
 
This is because -no sins are forgiven without repentance by God- period. Ever. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

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Then what is Baptism all about if not repentance? How could a person be baptized if he/she does not accept the condition to be baptized?

No, Baptism** erases** all sins and we are made new. A Baptismal candidate does not wear a white clothe for nothing. It is the sin that is committed again after Baptism that need to be repented of.
 
Is it truly that hard for you to think that someone would be baptized without repenting of some past sins for one reason or another?

Especially if badly catechized?
 
Is it truly that hard for you to think that someone would be baptized without repenting of some past sins for one reason or another?

Especially if badly catechized?
You have underestimated the grace of Baptism. It is not difficult for a baptismal candidate to understand that he is entering a new life and so leave behind the old. This is basic Catechism and the candidate should know this and those responsible for his Baptism help him to understand this - his Godparent, his RCIA instructor and the priest. Even in the rite of Baptism itself he is asked to reject Satan. Unless you are saying the Baptism is not valid, which it will be, I think, in the case of forced Baptism as mentioned earlier.

We must not under estimate the generosity of God in forgiving us. To accept Baptism is to repent of all our past acts and reject them. It is sins committed after that that need repented of.
 
It is worth mentioning even baptism does not forgive sins until they are repented of. If you do not repent certain sins and are baptized, they will be forgiven later if you repent them, a ‘delayed effect’ of baptism. 🙂
Just to get back on this again. I think this is a hypothetical premise and therefore entirely unrealistic. To believe this would be to belittle the process of the Sacrament of Baptism and the Church. There are roughly three types of baptisms – infant, adult and Baptism of desire. In infant, the parents are responsible for bringing up the child in Christian way, in adult, the RCIA and Godparent take care of it, in Baptism of desire it is the person’s desire to accept Christ but due to circumstance not able to receive Baptism in the conventional way.

In all of these, all past sins are erased and wiped out in Baptism. Sure, there are people as we all are, who revert to the old life – and these constitute sins that need to be repented. Those do not repent but persist will be dammed. That’s why not all the baptized will be ‘saved’.

Personally I do not think there is any basis for a ‘delayed effect’ of Baptism, if it is pertaining to forgiveness of sin. Sins are forgiven there and then in Baptism.

What is repentance, which is seemed to be the word here? It is simply to renounce sin in its simplest form. What do we expect of a baptismal candidate to do in respect of his Baptism? – That he knows he is entering into a new life of Christianity. That in itself is repentance – a turning away from the old life to a new life.

As for those who lives in sin while waiting to be baptized: it is very straight forward. You get your marriage blessed and sort it out. If a person fornicates, he/she should renounce it. But if he/she reverts to it after Baptism, then that sin needs to be confessed because it is a sin intentionally committed. He/she needs to sort out this life so that it will not recur to the best of his/her ability.

God bless.
 
This is from the Catechism. It doesn’t mention confession or repentance.

"By baptism all sins are forgiven, original sin and all personal sins, as well as all punishment for sin. In those who have been reborn nothing remains that would impede their entry into the Kingdom of God, neither Adam’s sin, nor personal sin, nor the consequences of sin, the gravest of which is separation from God. (CCC 1263)

Christ instituted the sacrament of penance…above all for those who, since baptism, have fallen into grave sin, and have thus lost their baptismal grace and wounded ecclesial communion. It is to them that the sacrament of penance offers a new possibility to convert and to recover the grace of justification. (CCC 1446,
 
Article 9. Whether insincerity hinders the effect of Baptism?

. . . I answer that, As Damascene says (De Fide Orth. ii), “God does not compel man to be righteous.” Consequently in order that a man be justified by Baptism, his will must needs embrace both Baptism and the baptismal effect. Now, a man is said to be insincere by reason of his will being in contradiction with either Baptism or its effect. For, according to Augustine (De Bapt. cont. Donat. vii), a man is said to be insincere, in four ways: first, because he does not believe, whereas Baptism is the sacrament of Faith; secondly, through scorning the sacrament itself; thirdly, through observing a rite which differs from that prescribed by the Church in conferring the sacrament; fourthly, through approaching the sacrament without devotion. Wherefore it is manifest that insincerity hinders the effect of Baptism.

Reply to Objection 1. “To be baptized in Christ,” may be taken in two ways. First, “in Christ,” i.e. “in conformity with Christ.” And thus whoever is baptized in Christ so as to be conformed to Him by Faith and Charity, puts on Christ by grace. Secondly, a man is said to be baptized in Christ, in so far as he receives Christ’s sacrament. And thus all put on Christ, through being configured to Him by the character, but not through being conformed to Him by grace.

Reply to Objection 2. When God changes man’s will from evil to good, man does not approach with insincerity. But God does not always do this. Nor is this the purpose of the sacrament, that an insincere man be made sincere; but that he who comes in sincerity, be justified.

Reply to Objection 3. A man is said to be insincere who makes a show of willing what he wills not. Now whoever approaches Baptism, by that very fact makes a show of having right faith in Christ, of veneration for this sacrament, and of wishing to conform to the Church, and to renounce sin. Consequently, to whatever sin a man wishes to cleave, if he approach Baptism, he approaches insincerely, which is the same as to approach without devotion. But this must be understood of mortal sin, which is in opposition to grace: but not of venial sin. Consequently, here insincerity includes, in a way, every sin.
Article 10. Whether Baptism produces its effect when the insincerity ceases?

Objection 1. It seems that Baptism does not produce its effect, when the insincerity ceases. For a dead work, which is void of charity, can never come to life. But he who approaches Baptism insincerely, receives the sacrament without charity. Therefore it can never come to life so as to bestow grace.

Objection 2. Further, insincerity seems to be stronger than Baptism, because it hinders its effect. But the stronger is not removed by the weaker. Therefore the sin of insincerity cannot be taken away by Baptism which has been hindered by insincerity. And thus Baptism will not receive its full effect, which is the remission of all sins.

Objection 3. Further, it may happen that a man approach Baptism insincerely, and afterwards commit a number of sins. And yet these sins will not be taken away by Baptism; because Baptism washes away past, not future, sins. Such a Baptism, therefore, will never have its effect, which is the remission of all sins.

On the contrary, Augustine says (De Bapt. cont. Donat. i): “Then does Baptism begin to have its salutary effect, when truthful confession takes the place of that insincerity which hindered sins from being washed away, so long as the heart persisted in malice and sacrilege.”

I answer that, As stated above (Question 66, Article 9), Baptism is a spiritual regeneration. Now when a thing is generated, it receives together with the form, the form’s effect, unless there be an obstacle; and when this is removed, the form of the thing generated produces its effect: thus at the same time as a weighty body is generated, it has a downward movement, unless something prevent this; and when the obstacle is removed, it begins forthwith to move downwards. In like manner when a man is baptized, he receives the character, which is like a form; and he receives in consequence its proper effect, which is grace whereby all his sins are remitted. But this effect is sometimes hindered by insincerity. Wherefore, when this obstacle is removed by Penance, Baptism forthwith produces its effect.

Reply to Objection 1. The sacrament of Baptism is the work of God, not of man. Consequently, it is not dead in the man, who being insincere, is baptized without charity.

Reply to Objection 2. Insincerity is not removed by Baptism but by Penance: and when it is removed, Baptism takes away all guilt, and all debt of punishment due to sins, whether committed before Baptism, or even co-existent with Baptism. Hence Augustine says (De Bapt. cont. Donat. i): “Yesterday is blotted out, and whatever remains over and above, even the very last hour and moment preceding Baptism, the very moment of Baptism. But from that moment forward he is bound by his obligations.” And so both Baptism and Penance concur in producing the effect of Baptism, but Baptism as the direct efficient cause, Penance as the indirect cause, i.e. as removing the obstacle.

Reply to Objection 3. The effect of Baptism is to take away not future, but present and past sins. And consequently, when the insincerity passes away, subsequent sins are indeed remitted, but by Penance, not by Baptism. Wherefore they are not remitted, like the sins which preceded Baptism, as to the whole debt of punishment.
 
14 Q. When the person who is being baptised is an adult, what dispositions should he have?

A. An adult who is being baptised, besides faith, should have at least imperfect contrition for the mortal sins he may have committed.

15 Q. If an adult in mortal sin was baptised without such sorrow, what would he receive?

A. If an adult was baptised in mortal sin without such sorrow he would receive the character of Baptism, but not the remission of his sins nor sanctifying grace. And these two effects would be suspended, until the obstacle is removed by perfect contrition or by the sacrament of Penance.

The Catechism of St. Pius X

The most necessary condition for the remission of any sin, and therefore also of venial sin, is contrition. So long as a man is attached to sin and does not detest it, God cannot forgive it, for He is infinitely holy and just.

. . . Since the presence of venial sin is compatible with that of sanctifying grace, and since a man can be sorry for one venial sin without being necessarily sorry for another, it follows that one venial sin may be forgiven and others left unforgiven.

If an adult. . . on account of his attachment to venial sins, was not yet freed of these, were to receive Baptism, all his venial sins for which he had at least virtual contrition would be forgiven through this Sacrament.

For, according to the teaching of the Council of Trent, Baptism effects a new birth, and in consequence the remission of sins, with the exception, of course, of those venial sins which the newly baptized person has not yet renounced.

Theory and Practice of the Confessional
 
=Reuben J;6290559]Until some theologians specifically correct me, this is my personal understanding on the OPQs.
All sins are forgiven except of course that sin of blaspheming against the Holy Spirit which essentially is a rejection of the action of God that has been brought about in his plan of salvation. Specifically, it is an unforgivable sin to attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to that of the Evil One, because by doing that not only we reject all that God does but falsely attributes to Satan things he does not do but what God does.
Thus to receive the Eucharist has to be done in the context of the rest of the Sacraments, like we cannot receive it unless in the state of grace; which require us to go for the Sacrament of Penance.
God bless.
**CCC 1393 Holy Communion separates us from sin. The body of Christ we receive in Holy Communion is “given up for us,” and the blood we drink “shed for the many for the forgiveness of sins.” For this reason the Eucharist cannot unite us to Christ without at the same time cleansing us from past sins and preserving us from future sins:

For as often as we eat this bread and drink the cup, we proclaim the death of the Lord. If we proclaim the Lord’s death, we proclaim the forgiveness of sins. If, as often as his blood is poured out, it is poured for the forgiveness of sins, I should always receive it, so that it may always forgive my sins. Because I always sin, I should always have a remedy.**

BUT…

CCC ***1395 By the same charity that it enkindles in us, the Eucharist preserves us from future mortal sins. The more we share the life of Christ and progress in his friendship, the more difficult it is to break away from him by mortal sin. The Eucharist is not ordered to the forgiveness of mortal sins - that is proper to the sacrament of Reconciliation. The Eucharist is properly the sacrament of those who are in full communion with the Church./***I]

***So friends this is the ofical position of our Church. Eucharist: “The Real Body, Blood Soul and Divinity of Jesus” remits [forgives] "veniel [lesser sins] BUT NOT Grave Mortal sin.

Why is this?/***I]

Love and prayers,
Pat
 
**CCC 1393 Holy Communion separates us from sin. The body of Christ we receive in Holy Communion is “given up for us,” and the blood we drink “shed for the many for the forgiveness of sins.” For this reason the Eucharist cannot unite us to Christ without at the same time cleansing us from past sins and preserving us from future sins:

For as often as we eat this bread and drink the cup, we proclaim the death of the Lord. If we proclaim the Lord’s death, we proclaim the forgiveness of sins. If, as often as his blood is poured out, it is poured for the forgiveness of sins, I should always receive it, so that it may always forgive my sins. Because I always sin, I should always have a remedy.**

BUT…

CCC ***1395 By the same charity that it enkindles in us, the Eucharist preserves us from future mortal sins. The more we share the life of Christ and progress in his friendship, the more difficult it is to break away from him by mortal sin. The Eucharist is not ordered to the forgiveness of mortal sins - that is proper to the sacrament of Reconciliation. The Eucharist is properly the sacrament of those who are in full communion with the Church./***I]

***So friends this is the ofical position of our Church. Eucharist: “The Real Body, Blood Soul and Divinity of Jesus” remits [forgives] "veniel [lesser sins] BUT NOT Grave Mortal sin.

Why is this?/***I]

Love and prayers,
Pat

That’s a tough question and as far as Catholic teaching is concerned I can only think of what I said earlier on as the explanation for the Eucharist. That it is a re-enactment of the sacrifice at Calvary and so becomes for us a forgiveness of sin. And yet, as in Calvary, it is purely a grace, given without us deserving it except for the fact that we believe in it. Thus the repentant thief was recipient of this grace.

It (the Eucharist) must derive from Calvary, so powerful is this grace that simply by receiving it venial sins are wiped off but not mortal sin. I think it is not so much of the inefficacy of the Eucharist but that what is needed is repentance on our part as was the good thief.

What happened at Calvary formed the basis of our faith which gives us the Sacraments which are intertwined and become the sum total of the signs of grace that originated from there. The Eucharist does not forgive major sin simply because another Sacrament is meant to specifically do this. It separates us from sin in so much sin separates us from God that when we are in full communion with God, no sin or evil can be with what is holy. By being constantly in communion with God we would be continually be separated from sin. This by no means a guarantee that we will not commit sin because free will belongs to us. But the strong deterrence of sins by Holy Communion is certainly there to strengthen and to help us against sin. Thus CCC 1393 rightly speaks on this.

God bless.
 
Article 9. Whether insincerity hinders the effect of Baptism?

. . . I answer that, As Damascene says (De Fide Orth. ii), “God does not compel man to be righteous.” Consequently in order that a man be justified by Baptism, his will must needs embrace both Baptism and the baptismal effect. Now, a man is said to be insincere by reason of his will being in contradiction with either Baptism or its effect. For, according to Augustine (De Bapt. cont. Donat. vii), a man is said to be insincere, in four ways: first, because he does not believe, whereas Baptism is the sacrament of Faith; secondly, through scorning the sacrament itself; thirdly, through observing a rite which differs from that prescribed by the Church in conferring the sacrament; fourthly, through approaching the sacrament without devotion. Wherefore it is manifest that insincerity hinders the effect of Baptism.

Reply to Objection 1. “To be baptized in Christ,” may be taken in two ways. First, “in Christ,” i.e. “in conformity with Christ.” And thus whoever is baptized in Christ so as to be conformed to Him by Faith and Charity, puts on Christ by grace. Secondly, a man is said to be baptized in Christ, in so far as he receives Christ’s sacrament. And thus all put on Christ, through being configured to Him by the character, but not through being conformed to Him by grace.

Reply to Objection 2. When God changes man’s will from evil to good, man does not approach with insincerity. But God does not always do this. Nor is this the purpose of the sacrament, that an insincere man be made sincere; but that he who comes in sincerity, be justified.

Reply to Objection 3. A man is said to be insincere who makes a show of willing what he wills not. Now whoever approaches Baptism, by that very fact makes a show of having right faith in Christ, of veneration for this sacrament, and of wishing to conform to the Church, and to renounce sin. Consequently, to whatever sin a man wishes to cleave, if he approach Baptism, he approaches insincerely, which is the same as to approach without devotion. But this must be understood of mortal sin, which is in opposition to grace: but not of venial sin. Consequently, here insincerity includes, in a way, every sin.
Article 10. Whether Baptism produces its effect when the insincerity ceases?

Objection 1. It seems that Baptism does not produce its effect, when the insincerity ceases. For a dead work, which is void of charity, can never come to life. But he who approaches Baptism insincerely, receives the sacrament without charity. Therefore it can never come to life so as to bestow grace.

Objection 2. Further, insincerity seems to be stronger than Baptism, because it hinders its effect. But the stronger is not removed by the weaker. Therefore the sin of insincerity cannot be taken away by Baptism which has been hindered by insincerity. And thus Baptism will not receive its full effect, which is the remission of all sins.

Objection 3. Further, it may happen that a man approach Baptism insincerely, and afterwards commit a number of sins. And yet these sins will not be taken away by Baptism; because Baptism washes away past, not future, sins. Such a Baptism, therefore, will never have its effect, which is the remission of all sins.

On the contrary, Augustine says (De Bapt. cont. Donat. i): “Then does Baptism begin to have its salutary effect, when truthful confession takes the place of that insincerity which hindered sins from being washed away, so long as the heart persisted in malice and sacrilege.”

I answer that, As stated above (Question 66, Article 9), Baptism is a spiritual regeneration. Now when a thing is generated, it receives together with the form, the form’s effect, unless there be an obstacle; and when this is removed, the form of the thing generated produces its effect: thus at the same time as a weighty body is generated, it has a downward movement, unless something prevent this; and when the obstacle is removed, it begins forthwith to move downwards. In like manner when a man is baptized, he receives the character, which is like a form; and he receives in consequence its proper effect, which is grace whereby all his sins are remitted. But this effect is sometimes hindered by insincerity. Wherefore, when this obstacle is removed by Penance, Baptism forthwith produces its effect.

Reply to Objection 1. The sacrament of Baptism is the work of God, not of man. Consequently, it is not dead in the man, who being insincere, is baptized without charity.

Reply to Objection 2. Insincerity is not removed by Baptism but by Penance: and when it is removed, Baptism takes away all guilt, and all debt of punishment due to sins, whether committed before Baptism, or even co-existent with Baptism. Hence Augustine says (De Bapt. cont. Donat. i): “Yesterday is blotted out, and whatever remains over and above, even the very last hour and moment preceding Baptism, the very moment of Baptism. But from that moment forward he is bound by his obligations.” And so both Baptism and Penance concur in producing the effect of Baptism, but Baptism as the direct efficient cause, Penance as the indirect cause, i.e. as removing the obstacle.

Reply to Objection 3. The effect of Baptism is to take away not future, but present and past sins. And consequently, when the insincerity passes away, subsequent sins are indeed remitted, but by Penance, not by Baptism. Wherefore they are not remitted, like the sins which preceded Baptism, as to the whole debt of punishment.
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  1. What sins are forgiven?
All sins CAN be forgiven – Baptism and Penance/Reconciliation (all sins), Eucharist (venial sins).
Only sins that are repented (hence, either had Baptism once or after had Sacramental Confession) ARE forgiven. Retain one mortal sin and still having the shackles of the sin – sin of any one of the laws and you effectively still have sinned.
The point of origin of forgiveness is one’s Faith in the Name of God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). If one has the Faith, then it follows that the same person believes and will willfully have the Baptism, Confession and ultimately wants to receive the Daily Bread or Christ Himself (THE Eucharist).
  1. What sins are NOT forgiven?
The only sin unforgivable is unbelief or willful denial of the Holy Spirit at work in a person. God cannot force himself to beings with Free Will because of He is infinite Love and Justice – even to His creations.
How can God even forgive someone who never even wants to realize that he/she has sinned?

While sins CAN be forgiven by true contrition of one’s heart/will, man is just a man and is subject to personal self-bias. Hence, we can never be personally be sure whether we are forgiven already. God in his wisdom has devised sacramental ways of ensuring us that we have received the graces proper to each sacrament.

Sacraments are fashioned in the way we are. Sacraments has BOTH body (physical attributes: form and matter) and spirit (the Holy Spirit working). This is necessary to maximize the effect on our whole being fulfilling Christ’s promise that He will show us how to live life to the FULLEST.

Just as Sabbath is made for Man, Sacraments are made for Man. We need Sacraments, God does not need them.
  1. If Communion is received ONLY under the form of the Sacred Bread [no wine/Sacred Blood] are the sins still forgiven?
Yes.
God is spirit and is one and whole in any species received (either Body or Blood). We are only required to receive Jesus BOTH in spirit (manifested in our will) and in body/physically (manifested by receiving his Body and/or Blood). Receiving either Body or Blood is explicitly receiving Christ physically and spiritually.

Of course, the argument above requires the belief in the Real Presence to the fullest sense of it.
 
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