What to do about a difficult friendship?

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This is a bit long, so please bear with me… 🙂

A few years ago, I became friends with a much older student at university–let’s call him Joe. He did pretty much whatever he could to get me out of my shell, in a sense–we went shopping for fancy clothes, checked out clubs and house parties, got groceries together, and went out to eat. I firmly believe that his desire to do all these things with me came out of the goodness of his heart.

However, it quickly became clear that Joe and I didn’t see eye to eye on morals–he was, and (if he weren’t married now) still would be, a “let’s party, let’s get drunk, let’s sleep around” kind of guy. Joe took me out to strip clubs a few times, despite knowing my moral stances. He and his girlfriend at the time attempted to pressure me into getting a lap dance, but–thanks be to God–I was successful in resisting. On all of these occasions, on account of my blindness I had no way of getting out of the desperately immoral environment in which I was trapped. It seems unlikely that Joe was deliberately making me feel uncomfortable; instead, he probably figured that I wouldn’t stick to my principles when push came to shove, and thought that I would be better off taking up his lifestyle. Even so, it was pretty clear that Joe had a hard time taking “no” for an answer in any situation–his way was the right way, others’ moral principles be damned. Whenever we talked or hung out, Joe would very often express himself in a crass, immature manner–not very edifying for anyone. He was often pretty self-centred too, taking up a lot of time to present (to me and/or other people) what were quasi-monologues about himself or things of interest to him. These quasi-monologues could actually be interesting, but it still came out that he knew all too well how to think, speak, and act in a very superficial and self-absorbed fashion.

After a while Joe got the message and stopped bringing me to strip clubs (if he was intending to head over to such an establishment before we hung out, I can’t say–in any case, he never told me ahead of time). But the rest of his negative qualities remained strong. After graduating from my university last spring, he moved in with my family for a few months for part of the summer and the fall. We had some fun times together, but I still felt uncomfortable around him and was looking forward to going back to school. The rest of the household soon enough began to resent his presence and attitude as well.

This past school year I barely talked to or hung out with Joe, because he had gotten a job five hours away–back in my hometown. I went through some tough times, especially spiritually, but was glad not to have to put up with Joe’s antics. We’ve spoken a few times on the phone in the past couple months; just this week Joe asked if I wanted to come hang out with him, stay over at his apartment, and come back home the next day. I told Joe I’d send him an e-mail to respond.

The thing is, I don’t really want to see him–especially not alone --or even keep in touch. I don’t truly enjoy his company as I do of my other friends; the rest of my family has a similar opinion of the guy. Even so, he’s definitely shown kindness to me–and this isn’t even the “Stockholm Syndrome” striking, either. It isn’t as if he’s stolen my wallet or recently taken me to a strip club–there aren’t any serious blots on his record that I can use to explain wanting to break off the friendship. I don’t want to turn his life upside down, like mine has been in the past, when platonic relationships crumbled for no obvious reason. I don’t want to do something that might as well come out of a handbook for wannabe jerks. Plus, I’ve been doing my best to set a good example for Joe as a practicing Christian. If all the weeds in his garden could be pulled up from their roots, I could see him become a follower of Christ in some fashion one day. (In fact, a couple years back, Joe himself suggested that we and a friend of mine go to church once or twice, and although it never became habitual for him, it still amazes me that we did go to church on his initiative at all.)

Now, I still have to send him an e-mail as I told Joe I would. But even if I can give him a good reason not to visit this time around, what am I going to do in the long run? I’m really wrestling with this question.

So, I’m turning to you for your prayers (in this thread) and advice (by private message).

Thanks, :signofcross:
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First, it’s important not to comply or engage in activities you know to be wrong. You must refuse to go to strip clubs or similar places. He may want to take you there, but you have the capability of refusing.

Also, see St. Francis de Sales’ “Remedies Against Evil Friendships”

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First, it’s important not to comply or engage in activities you know to be wrong. You must refuse to go to strip clubs or similar places. He may want to take you there, but you have the capability of refusing.
The times he brought me to strip clubs, I had no real say in the matter; He had invited me to do other things beforehand. (And back then I didn’t have a cell phone, so calling a taxi wasn’t an option.) The one time I figured out that Joe was actually intending to take me to a strip club, I was able to give him some reason for which I was busy that evening, and managed to evade the bullet. I never got together with him with full knowledge that he wanted to go to such an environment: I never had any interest, even subconsciously.
Also, see St. Francis de Sales’ “Remedies Against Evil Friendships”
Thanks for the link, I’ll definitely check it out 🙂
 
Lord, may Trebor not keep bad company or do anything that could compromise his purity and faith. Please give him the courage to speak openly with his friend so his friend can understand that he has a problem with immoral activities. May Trebor keep gentle and charitable with his friend in explaining himself while speaking the truth with firmness and simplicity. Thank you, Lord, for hearing my prayer.
 
The times he brought me to strip clubs, I had no real say in the matter; He had invited me to do other things beforehand. (And back then I didn’t have a cell phone, so calling a taxi wasn’t an option.) The one time I figured out that Joe was actually intending to take me to a strip club, I was able to give him some reason for which I was busy that evening, and managed to evade the bullet. I never got together with him with full knowledge that he wanted to go to such an environment: I never had any interest, even subconsciously.

Thanks for the link, I’ll definitely check it out 🙂
Trebor, it is very important that you be able to tell your friend the true reason you do not want to go to a strip club. Do not be ashamed to let him know that you do not approve of such entertainment.
 
Trebor, it is very important that you be able to tell your friend the true reason you do not want to go to a strip club. Do not be ashamed to let him know that you do not approve of such entertainment.
Thank you for the moral support. I’m sure Joe is quite aware of why I’m not interested in going to a strip club. I can’t recall the content of our conversations on the matter of going to such establishments because they occurred so long ago. But Joe heard me express my opposition to accompanying him, and the Christian element was at least implicit.

It’s been about a year and a half now since Joe has tried–and in that case failed–to take me to such an establishment. If somehow he manages to drag me along again, our friendship is over.

I started this thread to ask for prayers and advice about how to proceed the way things are now, rather than to bring up bad memories from the past. I mean, should I end the friendship? And if so, how should I do it? There isn’t an immediate trigger to justify my breaking ties with Joe, and I’d like to avoid causing him a lot of hurt and damaging his view, perhaps irreparably, of practicing Christians.
 
Trebor135, it sounds like you’re really struggling with this. Unfortunately, I don’t think anyone here can tell you whether or not to break things off, especially since we have only limited information; you will need to arrive at that decision yourself. (I’ve heard that Blessed Pope John Paul II used to say at the end of confession to his penitents something like, “Now you must decide.”)

I recommend praying to him particularly, maybe even dedicating a novena to him for this intention, going before the Blessed Sacrament whenever possible over the 9 days, as well as going to weekday Mass whenever possible over the 9 days.

Is there a trusted priest, youth minister, or male parishioner who is respected among the congregation? Maybe even a Catholic counselor–many parishes have Catholic counselors on staff or who work part-time. Select someone to talk to whom you feel will give you solid advice, even if it may be difficult to hear. (We can sometimes sense that someone will likely tell us what we want to hear, and others will tell us what we need to hear–go to the latter. 😉 )

I’m also reminded of a homily my pastor gave one time about Mark 9:42-48 (If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off…if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out…etc.). He was making the point that if there is anything in our lives that is a great source of temptation, and we are too weak to resist it, we must make every effort to avoid it (from the Act of Contrition–avoid the near occasion of sin). Only you know the degree of your weakness and whether you think you can successfully resist any temptation to sin this person may present to you.

I’m also reminded of some comments Sr. Rosalind Moss made at a talk one time. She said that a friend will never do anything to jeopardize his friend’s soul. So if this person does not respect your desire for salvation or the way of life (the “narrow path”, right 🙂 ?) you want to lead in order to get there, well…

Blessings! You’ll be in my prayers tonight.
 
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