What to do about my husband?

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You husband sounds mentally unbalanced. Someone who acts this provocatively and is this belligerant with authorities after being made aware of the serious potential consequences is not acting rationally. He is in need of professional intervention before he destroys you both financially and/or lands himself in jail. This is not a time to find yourself baiting the government on issues impinging on national security.
This is EXACTLY the FIRST thing that came to my mind upon reading the OP. Then, after learning that the OP’s hubby also reads/views pornography…this isn’t about terrorism, etc.; this is about a man in need of serious mental health services. I think I’d want to learn more about his “small conference get-together in Portugal.” Don’t they have looser porn laws there?
 
My husband is somewhat of a computer and math genius, and 2 months ago he went to Portugal for a small conference get-together for people of his favorite programming language. His specialty I guess is encrypting and security.

While there, he met a guy from Spain who was good in encrypting too, and he helped my husband work out kinks in some encrypting program my husband was writing. They put it together, and made it available for people on the internet.

From what I can gather, this program mixes up text or messages in such a way that it would take a thousand years for a “super” computer to “de-scramble” it. It also makes it impossible to “tap into” any internet-to-internet phone call. Only people with this program can decipher what is being sent, and only if the other person allows it.

About a month ago, my husband was contacted by the Department of Homeland Security, demanding the method to descramble. They informed him that his program violated US regulations on encryption. He sent quite a quaint little letter back stating that the program was made outside the US. He signed the letter “Sig Heil, mine Furor”. He was increasingly become more agitated the last few weeks, and has angrily stated that he wants to go back to Portugal and write even more programs to “blank” off the Government.

-We are being audited by the IRS
-He was twice questioned by the FBI, and Office of the Inspector General.
-His security clearance for the Government was revoked, and he cannot work on contracts for them with his company anymore
-He was questioned by US Postal Inspectors because the letter he sent back contained very bad language
-He has spent days and days in the basement erasing his computer and burning DVDs.

The list goes on and on. A somewhat nice FBI agent told me that the program he wrote can be used by terrorists and criminals to avoid surveillance by the Government, and that this was a very, very serious matter. He refuses to just cooperate. He says it’s time to “fight back against dictators”.

Any suggestions as to what in the Lord’s name I should do?
Semonole Girl:

I’m sorry to hear about the situation your husband has gotten you and your family into. It’s not a good situation, and it’s got to be upsetting

I’ve never heard about about the Postal Service returning a letter because of “bad language” - Usually there has to be something else, such as a threat, veiled or otherwise, against someone in government.

The government may also be suspicious of the person he met in Portugal, and that person could have connections to any number of organizations. And, there’s the issue of who might get their hands on the code and the key. Some of the people who want to get their hands on the code and key aren’t exactly nice people. In fact, they’d slit our throats if they had half a chance, or they’d do to our children and their teachers what they did at Beslan.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if your husband was under demonic influence or oppression. In which case, there is something you can do. You can go to daily Mass, pray the Rosary, Do the Spiritual 911 on Father Corapi’s Website:

fathercorapi.com/catalog1.aspx
Click Spiritual 911

This also will help if he won’t go to therapy or cooperate with the Feds. Your husband doesn’t have to give the Feds the Computer and Hard Drive - He could copy everything they need on a CD or DVD and then walk them through it.

And, you will need your own lawyer, because if you share a lawyer with him, that will be a “Conflict of Interest” for the lawyer. This is esp. true if your husband refuses to work with the Feds and show them what he did.

I hope this helps.

Your Brother in Christ, Michael
 
My husband is somewhat of a computer and math genius, and 2 months ago he went to Portugal for a small conference get-together for people of his favorite programming language. His specialty I guess is encrypting and security.

While there, he met a guy from Spain who was good in encrypting too, and he helped my husband work out kinks in some encrypting program my husband was writing. They put it together, and made it available for people on the internet.

From what I can gather, this program mixes up text or messages in such a way that it would take a thousand years for a “super” computer to “de-scramble” it. It also makes it impossible to “tap into” any internet-to-internet phone call. Only people with this program can decipher what is being sent, and only if the other person allows it.

About a month ago, my husband was contacted by the Department of Homeland Security, demanding the method to descramble. They informed him that his program violated US regulations on encryption. He sent quite a quaint little letter back stating that the program was made outside the US. He signed the letter “Sig Heil, mine Furor”. He was increasingly become more agitated the last few weeks, and has angrily stated that he wants to go back to Portugal and write even more programs to “blank” off the Government.

-We are being audited by the IRS
-He was twice questioned by the FBI, and Office of the Inspector General.
-His security clearance for the Government was revoked, and he cannot work on contracts for them with his company anymore
-He was questioned by US Postal Inspectors because the letter he sent back contained very bad language
-He has spent days and days in the basement erasing his computer and burning DVDs.

The list goes on and on. A somewhat nice FBI agent told me that the program he wrote can be used by terrorists and criminals to avoid surveillance by the Government, and that this was a very, very serious matter. He refuses to just cooperate. He says it’s time to “fight back against dictators”.

Any suggestions as to what in the Lord’s name I should do?
Have you tried talking to him?

Explaining what you think?
 
I’ve never heard about about the Postal Service returning a letter because of “bad language” - Usually there has to be something else, such as a threat, veiled or otherwise, against someone in government.
The government received the letter, and because of what he wrote, they referred it to the Postal Inspectors because it is illegal to send such obscene language through the mail. He told me what he wrote, and I was appalled. I don’t think I have ever heard those type of wrods before
The government may also be suspicious of the person he met in Portugal, and that person could have connections to any number of organizations.
Well, I did check the internet for references to the conference, and there was a website that they created with the details and locations, and the hotel where it would be. He had also been talking about it for weeks, and was very excited to go to Europe. He passed background checks twice for his high level of security clearance at his company.

His favorite quotation is the answer a mountain climber gave when he was asked why they climbed a mouintain. “Because it was there.” He does things “Because he can”.

His IQ is very, very high, but he absolutely hates people telling him what to do. He can’t stand someone in authority that is not as bright as him because he feels they never do things the right way. Anytime some new security/technology comes out that claims to be so secure, he takes it apart and then emails the creators detailing how he made them “look like idiots”, to quote him.

I don’t think this is about aiding and helping terrorists/drug dealers. This is more about him and his personality. The more the Government goes after him, the more fun he will have because he knows he is beating them. He does have a God complex about his intellect. If he can make the best government agents so mad and nervous, it will reenforce that he is smarter and better than the best the US has to offer. You have no idea what it is like living with a man with that type of Ego.

I have been through this before with software companies and him beating them. All we usually get is a nasty letter just threatening to sue, but they never do. Now I have had Agents at my house twice.
 
The government received the letter, and because of what he wrote, they referred it to the Postal Inspectors because it is illegal to send such obscene language through the mail. He told me what he wrote, and I was appalled. I don’t think I have ever heard those type of wrods before

Well, I did check the internet for references to the conference, and there was a website that they created with the details and locations, and the hotel where it would be. He had also been talking about it for weeks, and was very excited to go to Europe. He passed background checks twice for his high level of security clearance at his company.

His favorite quotation is the answer a mountain climber gave when he was asked why they climbed a mouintain. “Because it was there.” He does things “Because he can”.

His IQ is very, very high, but he absolutely hates people telling him what to do. He can’t stand someone in authority that is not as bright as him because he feels they never do things the right way. Anytime some new security/technology comes out that claims to be so secure, he takes it apart and then emails the creators detailing how he made them “look like idiots”, to quote him.

I don’t think this is about aiding and helping terrorists/drug dealers. This is more about him and his personality. The more the Government goes after him, the more fun he will have because he knows he is beating them. He does have a God complex about his intellect. If he can make the best government agents so mad and nervous, it will reenforce that he is smarter and better than the best the US has to offer. You have no idea what it is like living with a man with that type of Ego.

I have been through this before with software companies and him beating them. All we usually get is a nasty letter just threatening to sue, but they never do. Now I have had Agents at my house twice.
I really suggest finging an attorney to protect yourself and your kids!
 
I’d hazard a guess that the facts are even more complex than you are able to post on these boards or, perhaps, more complex than you are aware. You have serious legal issues here. You need to find an attorney who specializes in this area of the law and make an appointment quick. To be blunt, you are not going to get the answers you need on a religious discussion board.
 
I second this - talk to a lawyer NOW! Ask your husband to talk to one on his own as well.
 
I have to ask…if you are so worried about what is going on **WHY **have you not sought legal advice from an attorney?
 
It sounds like your husband has or is becoming mentally unbalanced. I would highly suggest getting counseling, even marrriage counseling, and getting a lawyer to protect yourself and your children.

If you go to marriage counseling, perhaps they will be able to refer you to someone who would be able to counsel your husband, as most counselers I know would be unprepared for him.

Also, keep praying for him.

A lone Raven
 
I remember your posts before the “great crash”, and with the background you provided then - it sounds like you should heed the posters above and get legal advice. Prayers for you, for your protection. Pray for your husband, but listen to the advice of your spiritual and legal advisors.
 
I remember your posts before the “great crash”, and with the background you provided then - it sounds like you should heed the posters above and get legal advice. Prayers for you, for your protection. Pray for your husband, but listen to the advice of your spiritual and legal advisors.
 
I haven’t read your old posts - but even what I read in your first post on this thread scared me.

Your husband sounds scary. I think maybe you should worry more about how to protect yourself and your children - I seriously doubt that your husband would let you help him, anyway.
 
Please start making a journal of all your husband’s weird behavior and keep it in a safe place he doesn’t have access to. You will almost certainly need it someday, especially if you have children.

Also, taking into consideration his high IQ, low respect for you, and computer skills, I’m sure he has read every post you’ve ever made on this forum. Keep that in mind.

Do you really want to live like this for the rest of your life?
 
From what I can gather, this program mixes up text or messages in such a way that it would take a thousand years for a “super” computer to “de-scramble” it. It also makes it impossible to “tap into” any internet-to-internet phone call. Only people with this program can decipher what is being sent, and only if the other person allows it.
Many programs do this. In fact, a new method of sending encrypted and deniable messages was recently invented.
About a month ago, my husband was contacted by the Department of Homeland Security, demanding the method to descramble.
Which they have no right to, and if it’s a quality cryptosystem, he wouldn’t be able to give them that anyway.
They informed him that his program violated US regulations on encryption. He sent quite a quaint little letter back stating that the program was made outside the US.
Which is how those unreasonable restrictions are always circumvented. Make no mistake: terrorists and bad people can get this encryption outside of the United States easily.
He signed the letter “Sig Heil, mine Furor”.
That was dumb.
He was increasingly become more agitated the last few weeks, and has angrily stated that he wants to go back to Portugal and write even more programs to “blank” off the Government.
Can’t say I blame him, given the government’s utter destruction of our privacy lately.
-We are being audited by the IRS
-He was twice questioned by the FBI, and Office of the Inspector General.
-His security clearance for the Government was revoked, and he cannot work on contracts for them with his company anymore
-He was questioned by US Postal Inspectors because the letter he sent back contained very bad language
These are the actions of an unreasonable government, and they’re not your husband’s fault.
-He has spent days and days in the basement erasing his computer and burning DVDs.
And that’s remarkably intelligent of him, actually.
The list goes on and on. A somewhat nice FBI agent told me that the program he wrote can be used by terrorists and criminals to avoid surveillance by the Government, and that this was a very, very serious matter.
And it can be used by normal, law-abiding citizens to to avoid illegal surveillance by the government as well. I don’t want the president reading my email and potentially blackmailing me with it; do you?
He refuses to just cooperate. He says it’s time to “fight back against dictators”.
The president today signed into law a bill that suspended the Writ of Habeas Corpus, a right of a person to sue the government when he or she is illegally imprisoned. This right has been the foundation of all Western liberty since the Magna Carta in 1215, and it was suspended, in violation of the Constitution.
Any suggestions as to what in the Lord’s name I should do?
From what I’ve read thus far (and I haven’t yet completed the whole thread) you should support your husband and get a lawyer.

Jeremy
 
I am sorry that your husband is being so unreasonable.
No, he’s not. Imprudent, perhaps, given that he has a wife and children to consider, but he is not being unreasonable in the least.
Of course the government people are correct. Such a program would allow terrorists to communicate without worry of interception.
And closed doors and thick walls allow terrorits to meet without worry of eavesdroppers. Perhaps you should be the first to have your doors and walls confiscated by the government in the name of “Security.”
The problem is your husband seems to distrust his own government more than he distrusts the terrorists.
The government has far more in numbers and power than terrorists will ever have.
This is very sad.
Yes, it is the sad state of American democracy today.
Certainly the government has every right to do whatever they have to do in order to obtain this information.
Do you honestly believe that? So when the government comes to your door to claim its “right” to put video cameras in your house to make sure you’re not hosting terrorist meetings, you’re just going to let it? When the government wants to open your mail and read it in order to make sure you’re not a terrorist, that’s perfectly fine with you?
It is their job to protect the citizens of this country,
Those who would sacrifice a little liberty to attain a little security deserve neither liberty nor security.
and hopefully your husband will wise up before he finds himself in a far worse situation than a few audits.
Is that a threat? Because if you’ve been paying attention to things lately, the government can do whatever it wants to people as long as it doesn’t call it “torture.”
They may not be as concerned with human rights as is the USA.
The government just suspended habeas corpus and allowed torture (as long is it’s not called torture), and you think it’s concerned with human rights? The government has done things to civilian “enemy combatants” that people have been tried and convicted in international courts for doing to US military personnel.

Jeremy
 
Strange? Codes and code breaking technologies have always been highly important strategic weapons.
Yes. It’s strange because programs aren’t like munitions. Programs can cross international borders as easily as a CD or a floppy disk can. Bad people will get their programs no matter what restrictions the government puts on export.
For a very simple example see the movie “Code Talkers”.
You mean “Windtalkers.”
It tells the story of a particular code we prised during WWII.
A “code” like the Navajo language 🙂
The US military was willing to kill their own soldiers to prevent this code from being broken.
I’m pretty darn sure that’s a movie embellishment; I’ve read the story multiple times and in multiple sources and have never heard of this.

Jeremy
 
IWhy would people from those countries, especially, want to enable them to communicate with impunity?
They already can, VociMike. They already do. The same argument against encryption can be made against closed doors and thick walls.
There are many types of encryption. There is bit-shifting, XOR methods, text compression, RSA, SHA-1. The trick here is that these require a “key” or cipher to decrypt. Most supercomputers can weed out this pretty fast (days or weeks).
SHA-1-based stream ciphers, as far as I know, are still secure, even in the face of the recent weakness discovered in the hash function itself.

RSA is still completely secure and used every day by any computer professional who works on remote computers.
Then there is encryption that crypts the text based on a formula caluculated from the “key”, and then compresses the crypted text using another cipher routine (like WinZip does).
Winzip “security” can be easily cracked. Zipfiles have not had adequate in-file security since the floppy disk days.
Decrypting requires knowing the key, and then knowing how to find the formula inside,
Which anyone with a disassembler can do easily.
and then knowing the decompression routine.
Again, you have the program, you have the routine. The government would not have any problem with this at all.
This is the method that the Feds are deathly afraid of.
No, they’re probably more afraid of things like this.
Coming from a country that doesn’t have freedom of speech or expressions and having a government that doesn’t care much for its citiziens, I can support what the US government is doing.
Your government that doesn’t care much for its citizens and curtails your freedom of speech and expression likely started down that path exactly how the US is going down it now.
I actually feel safe that they are working for my interests and keeping this country safe.
Curtailing your privacy and liberty is not “working for your interests.” Suspending habeas corpus and legalizing torture is not “working for your interests.” The government, like any large group of people with power, is seeking to fulfill its own interests.

I’m sure the British rulers of the Colonies also felt that they were serving their citizens’ best interests as well.
I see these surveilance as not something that impedes on my privacy but as a protective measure…
Then you’ll be fine with mandatory video cameras in your home, and with the government reading all your mail?
after 9/11, it seems to me that these work are very important to protecting people here.
If we suspend liberties because of 9/11, the terrorists have already gotten exactly what they wanted. They’ve gotten terror, and they’ve gotten panic. This is what they thrive on.
Unless I have something to hide, I wouldn’t have much worries that they are looking through what I’ve sent.
What happens when you write that you aren’t happy with the job your congressman is doing, and you suddenly find yourself disenfranchised? Or you mention in a letter to your wife that you aren’t particularly fond of your boss, and the governement comes to you and threatens to reveal this letter to your boss unless you do some work for them, pro bono? Would that cause you to worry?
This is just my opinion but I have to say I feel protected and safe and have a voice here thanks to our government…
You’re more in danger from your own government now than you were five years ago. Five years ago, the government could never legally lock you up and throw away the key. Today, it can. Five years ago, the government could never legally waterboard you and torture you, and then use your coerced confession as evidence in a military tribunal; now it can.
and I would do my best to make sure everyone here has it too.
History has shown that governments with unchecked power pose far more danger to their citizens than any group of private individuals, no matter how angry they are.

Jeremy
 
Even if what he did is legal, does that make it right?
That’s an entirely different question, and I’m making no judgment about the prudence of his actions. But I simply can’t abide the people here who simply aren’t paying attention and who live as if the government is an idyllic “freedom protector” when it’s doing exactly the opposite. Or the people here who say they’d happily trade freedom for security. Consider this: God Himself gave us freedom (e.g., to sin), despite its risks to our security (e.g., eternal salvation).
Are you sure he is telling you ALL of the details? If he (and the people here that support his right to do whatever) are so sure that he can do this, then why is he destroying information and doing other things like that?
Because I can still be blackmailed even if I’m not doing anything illegal or immoral.
Also, I feel bad for you, but as an American, if somebody goes out of their way to assist somebody in harming this country, even if it is to prove a point, I have no problem holding that person accountable for any action that results from it.
Releasing software that does encryption is not “going out of their way to assist somebody in harming this country.” Such software can and is used by law-abiding citizens all the time. I personally use encrypted connections every day to work with computers in California while I’m here in Ohio. I would not be able to do my work, and I would not have my job, if such encryption did not exist or could not be used by law-abiding citizens.
If the people overseas are bad guys, anybody helping them should be held responsible. I have grandkids to enjoy in the future, and helping those that want to harm them is wrong.
Then you should stand up for their privacy and their liberty now so they still have some by the time they grow up.
I would not ever consider granting it back to somebody that had that much animosity against the gov’t. It is for those the gov’t trusts to act in their interests, not the individual’s.
I’ll agree with you on that one 🙂
Only a court can then free them at that point, if law enforcement chooses not to.
And even that’s impossible now, for anyone labelled and held by the military as an “enemy combatant.”
think about it. 2048 bits or higher encryption (thats the higherst i can find as of now). virtually uncrackable. credit card companies now use AT MOST, 256 bit.
You’re confusing two different types of encryption here; the high bit count (2048) is asymmetric encryption, which uses higher-bit keys because it’s weaker than quality symmetric encryption. To quote Bruce Schneier from his book Applied Cryptography, it’s a provable fact of information that 256-bit symmetric ciphers are safe until computers are made from something other than matter and occupy something other than space.
which is why we now have millions of identity thefts a year. the reason?
The reason is because (a) too much information is public, (b) the current security systems (not the encryption components of the systems, but the systems themselves) are too weak, and (c) people are generally dumb.

Any system based only on my mother’s maiden name is bound to fail.
Im not saying that he should hand this to the Mujahadeen, but the potential for greater personal security far outweights some extremist deciding to use whatever this is.
Absolutely.

Jeremy
 
I finally got the WHOLE story from him tonight.

It turns out that the Government is not as concerned with the actual encyption itself, they are highly interested in how my husband came to make this program.

He told me that whatever he wrote is very similar, if not idential to some company’s product/code that is currently under review for a patent. This company apparently contacted the FBI when they found his code on the internet, and assumed he had hacked their company, stolen the code, and posted it on the internet. The company is a government contractor, so a potential illegal hacking is what caused a great deal of alarm. That is why the Inspector General got involved, and why they are going to audit us: to see if he obtained large sums of money as a “payoff” or something to steal the code.

He tells me that whatever this code is, is based off some solution to a mathematical formula?/problem? that was solved by a Russian citizen some time ago. This company had the same idea as him (I guess), and filed a US Patent.

Because this code is now public knowledge, the patent is virtually useless, which the company assumed was because of illegal activity.

He made his code much stronger that this company, which is making the Government very nervous, and they are also looking at whether he made the posting while in the US because it definitely would violate export laws if he had done it here.

He had contacted a lawyer about 2 weeks ago, who instructed him to detail his travel in Europe, contact Internet Providers, even copy his notes/workings on the formula so he can prove he came up this idea on his own too. He was also told the Government probably would seize his computer, so this prompted him to freak out, encrypt all his data and burn it to DVDs, then erase all his computers. It makes sense now why I found like 3 new boxes from CompUSA for hard drives in our garbage.

He made things really bad for himself when they (the Inspector General) came the second time, by saying “How does it feel when some US Prison guard completely owns you? Didn’t they teach you how to shoot back?” and “Allah Ackbar blank blank”.

He told me that his lawyer said that they have very little, if anything on him if he truly wrote this code himself, and posted in while in Portugal. This of course makes him even more big-headed, during which he can do and say some REALLY stupid things. The lawyer said the Government is trying to intimidate at first, and then will resort to harsher tactics. He is so arrogant I can’t stand it. I finished talking with him not 40 minutes ago, and I still am botherd by it. He thinks he is untouchable, and unbeatable. I am sick of it.

I am getting tired of the letters from software companies, the every-so-often letter from the MPAA, his general attitude ect. He does not hardly share anything with me; all I do is open the mail and say “You got another letter again”. All he had to do was prove to them he wrote this code himself. It would have taken 10 minutes to print and copy. But no, he goes with the “in your face” attitude that usually ends up badly for both of us. Sorry, I’m just venting a year and a half of complete frustration
 
I hope you start thinking about yourself and your kid’s rather then what you are going to do with a husband like that. Sure he needs help but aside from telling him that, what else can you do, I think I’d give him an ultimatum, he really needs to stop acting like a jerk and start acting like an adult I don’t care what his IQ is…I hope you have a plan for yourself and kid’s; I don’t know how you can live like that.
 
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