What to expect at Maronite Mass

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Thank you. Isn’t the sign of peace different than in Roman Mass?
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Yes, the peace is passed differently. Always was, even admidst the old latinizations. Traditionally, the priest (or bishop) touched the altar, then the Chalice and paten, then placed his right hand on the altar, saying “peace to you, oh holy altar of God, peace to the holy mysteries placed upon you, peace to you, oh servant of the Holy Spirit”. The deacon (or server) would then touch the celebrants hand and pass the Peace to the congregation.

Unfortunately, the only part that survives is the physical way the peace is passed to the congregation: the deacon (or subdeacon or server) holds his hands together (in the “praying hands” position) while the recipient cups his or her hands over them. It goes the same way down the line. FYI, the peace is passed this same way in all the Syriac Churches. I suppose I should add that, regrettably, it’s not uncommon in some Maronite parishes to see a Novus ordo-style handshake in lieu of the proper posture.
 
malphono said:
Yes, the peace is passed differently. Always was, even admidst the old latinizations. Traditionally, the priest (or bishop) touched the altar, then the Chalice and paten, then placed his right hand on the altar, saying “peace to you, oh holy altar of God, peace to the holy mysteries placed upon you, peace to you, oh servant of the Holy Spirit”. The deacon (or server) would then touch the celebrants hand and pass the Peace to the congregation.

Unfortunately, the only part that survives is the physical way the peace is passed to the congregation: the deacon (or subdeacon or server) holds his hands together (in the “praying hands” position) while the recipient cups his or her hands over them. It goes the same way down the line. FYI, the peace is passed this same way in all the Syriac Churches. I suppose I should add that, regrettably, it’s not uncommon in some Maronite parishes to see a Novus ordo-style handshake in lieu of the proper posture.
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Err… Is there any way(YouTube and such) to see the passing of the peace?
 
Upgrade25 said:
Do you genuflect? Is there Holy Water located just inside the church? What does the incense smell like?
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I do and I see many others do it at the Maronite mass I attend.

Yes there is Holy water.

The incense used at the Maronite Mass is actually my favorite, I sometimes use it when I say the Rosary at home.
 
malphono said:
Yes, the peace is passed differently. Always was, even admidst the old latinizations. Traditionally, the priest (or bishop) touched the altar, then the Chalice and paten, then placed his right hand on the altar, saying “peace to you, oh holy altar of God, peace to the holy mysteries placed upon you, peace to you, oh servant of the Holy Spirit”. The deacon (or server) would then touch the celebrants hand and pass the Peace to the congregation.

Unfortunately, the only part that survives is the physical way the peace is passed to the congregation: the deacon (or subdeacon or server) holds his hands together (in the “praying hands” position) while the recipient cups his or her hands over them. It goes the same way down the line. FYI, the peace is passed this same way in all the Syriac Churches. I suppose I should add that, regrettably, it’s not uncommon in some Maronite parishes to see a Novus ordo-style handshake in lieu of the proper posture.
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I have never seen that at any Maronite Parish I’ve gone to, Although I don’t you have.

If indeed this does happen, I too find it sad. It’s such a beautiful act.
 
Is the Body dipped in the Blood for Communion, or is it Latin Style?
 
Communion is received standing and on the tongue. The Maronite priest or deacon dips the host into a chalice of wine and water, so by intinction, both are received.
 
malphono said:
Yes, the peace is passed differently. Always was, even admidst the old latinizations. Traditionally, the priest (or bishop) touched the altar, then the Chalice and paten, then placed his right hand on the altar, saying “peace to you, oh holy altar of God, peace to the holy mysteries placed upon you, peace to you, oh servant of the Holy Spirit”. The deacon (or server) would then touch the celebrants hand and pass the Peace to the congregation.
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This is the way it’s done in my parish, and I believe this is how it’s written in the official Qurbono book. :confused:
 
malphono said:
There are plenty of vids of neo-Maronite Masses posted on YouTube.
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You seem to use the term ‘neo-Maronite’ in a derogatory way as are your comments to the Maronite Liturgy as it is today.

Do you view it as I view the ‘neo’ novus ordo of the Roman Catholic church? It is something foreign to me, I was raised with the Mass in Latin. We have both lost much then.
 
Phillip_Rolfes said:
This is the way it’s done in my parish, and I believe this is how it’s written in the official Qurbono book. :confused:
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Whereas they prayer may still be there, (I don’t have the books handy), the accompanying rubrics are gone. Traditionally, the Oblation was veiled, and the priest would first touch his lips then touch the altar, saying “peace to you oh holy Altar of God,” touch his lips again then lift the veil (and the pall) slightly to touch the paten and the base of the chalice, saying “peace to the Holy Mysteries placed upon you,” before touching his lips a third time and placing his hand on the altar for the deacon (or server), saying “peace to you, oh servant of the Holy spirit.”
 
malphono said:
Whereas they prayer may still be there, (I don’t have the books handy), the accompanying rubrics are gone. Traditionally, the Oblation was veiled, and the priest would first touch his lips then touch the altar, saying “peace to you oh holy Altar of God,” touch his lips again then lift the veil (and the pall) slightly to touch the paten and the base of the chalice, saying “peace to the Holy Mysteries placed upon you,” before touching his lips a third time and placing his hand on the altar for the deacon (or server), saying “peace to you, oh servant of the Holy spirit.”
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Ah! I’m going to have to be more attentive to this part on Sunday. Usually I’m juggling two of my three kids at that point, and I haven’t been able to closely observe the way in which Abouna initiates the “Kiss of Peace.” Thanks for the clarification. 👍
 
Casilda said:
You seem to use the term ‘neo-Maronite’ in a derogatory way as are your comments to the Maronite Liturgy as it is today.
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The novus ordo is based on the usus antiquior in large part. The new Maronite missal, by admission of the liturgy commission itself, is based on the Roman novus ordo and their own ideas as to what should’ve existed. The structure has been significantly adapted to imitate the novus ordo and any semblance of the traditional liturgy is from prayer recycling.

Edit: Also, I’d like to just second what malphono said on the absolute insistence against the use of the word ‘mass’ in English is a revisionist tendency. It really shouldn’t even be a concern - the fact that we’ve completely scrapped the sacrificial element of our preparation rite should be a concern, not what novelty we can call the liturgy so we can feign exoticism.
 
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