…If what the catholic believes and teaches agrees with the Bible great. But I am afraid that much of what you believe do not agree with the Bible. Especially concerning salvation. We are saved by grace through faith and not of works, Eph 2:8-9. We are saved by faith alone in Chirst alone. Water baptism, good works, holy communion, church membership, marriage are not part of the gospel message Christ gave to us. Read the gospel mssage in 1 Cor. 15:1-4 to find out what the message of salvation is and believing it you will be saved.
1st Corinthians 14:26 - What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church.
What ever we do must be done with the intention of building up or strengthening the church.
2 Timothy 2:23
Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
I am not an unopinionated person. Sometimes I speak as an authority on matters I have not authority over and instead of drawing people closer to God, I convince them through my arrogance that where ever God is, He isn’t with me. I struggle with the desire to prove myself right and others wrong, so I have to ask myself, what are my words going to produce in others? Am I doing this so God might be glorified, or for some other reason?
I have met all kinds of Christians over the years. We all have verses we use to support our various perspectives. I can share a verse with you and you might hear it, or you might just bring up another verse that you think is superior to it. I think you might just be heading into this kind of dialogue. Will it lead to anything fruitful? Maybe we should just focus on the things that will be profitable and useful for strengthening and building each other up, especially if we tend to get into these kind of arguments.
I read 1st Cor. 15:1-11
Its a great passage. I am often struck by how much simpler the church was back then. It was not structured with much ceremony or tradition. In that setting Paul tells us what the most important things are for us to understand. Thanks for bringing it up.
Catholics believe in Papal succession, so this means that there is a lot more to consider if you are a Catholic. For Catholics, the various Catholic documents are just as important as the Bible as they come from Popes.
The things Catholics believe are required are based on scripture, but are not phrased in the same way in scripture. So, here is where we enter into the logic war that might likely end up being unfruitful.
Rob Bell, in speaking tour titled, Everything is Spiritual, said something like this:
In a 2 dimensional world a circle and a rectangle cannot be the same thing (He drew a circle next to a rectangle on a white board). All the circle people argue with the rectangle people about the benefits of trusting the circle instead of trusting the rectangle and vice-versa. In 2 dimensions it appears that a circle and a rectangle are incompatible, but in 3 dimensions, a circle and a rectangle might just be part of the same thing (at this point Bell held up the marker and showed everyone). On one end, this marker is a circle, but if we turn it just a little, we see a rectangle. Who is right, the circles or the rectangles? God might just be sitting there holding the marker outside of our dimension saying, “yep.” We might want clarification: “Is it the circle or the rectangle?” To which He might respond, “YEP.”
In 2 dimensions, it seems that the circle and the rectangle do not function together, so be a Catholic, or be a Protestant (or be both), but turn your focus toward building others up - be sure that is the heart of your activity.