Salutations,
God loves us all.We should love all God’s children. Now, to say the living conditions are harsh over there is an underststement. The Quran espousing love for believers, who are PEOPLE OF THE BOOK, which includes followers of Abraham,. Therefore Ismael tribes of 12 lead to the Arab races. Ishmael is written of as being a hot head and very good with the bow and arrow.As first born, he should have gotten the birth rite inheritence. But he was the son OF DOUBT. Abraham loved both his sons. Ishmael was 11yo when Isaac was born.
There was still time, I feel for Ishmael Tobe assigned watching a toddler, Isaac for a few years where he probably was fond of the little kid. If not, Isaac would have had an accident. I suppose they played together a little. Ishmael may have tossed stones with Isaac. He could have tried to show a 4 or 5 yo how to shoot an arrow. But, Haggar, probably, had negative moments complain that Isaac Wil get Ishmael’s birthrite. Hence, as the story goes, Sarah had Abraham, give supplies to Haggar and Ishmael and send them out into the desert. They ran out of H2O and cried out to God who sent Gabriel to them and saved them. So they found a place to settle and Ishmael took wives=12 nations. Isaac grew and did the same.Abraham would visit Ishmael and (supposition here) take Isaac with him. Abraham dies and BOTH SONS and the tribes buried him together. They had built that mausoleum for him. Unbeknownst to me till I had to do some research, Sarah died first and Abraham took another wife. I forget about more children. I’m thinking and could be wrong (you think) Haggar may have moved back. After Sarah was gone I do believe Ishmael came back at Abraham’s request. Abraham and sons did care for each other at some level.
NOW, I established some good feelings here between the Arab and the Jew. Both were worshiping Abraham’s God. The 12 tribes of each divided.
NOW WHERE DOES MOHAMMED ENTER! Born 570CE in Mecca. Died June 8, 632 CE at age 61-62yo. Buried in Medina at green dome mosque. From 583-609CE he was a merchant. His religious journey started in 609 CE to 632CE. He had 13 wives.3 sons and 5 daughter’s and that was wit 13 wives??
GABRIEL’S VISIT: He was 40yo and would isolate in Cave for prayer when visited there by Gabriel. The visions occurred over 3 years. His heart was PURIFIED by an angel. SUCCESSORS: Here is the trouble between Shite and Sunni, SHIA has AL IS SUCCESSOR… Now my phone needs charging aND I was researching as I typed. I believe the Shia recognize Ali because was the grandson of Mohammed. This is a purer blood line. ABU-BAKR as 1st Rashid caliph was voted in or assigned by Mohammed. He is the leader that the Sunni follow or anyone who follows him. Sunni are more worldly. Shites, supposedly, more holy.
MY QUESTION TO GABRIEL IS: IF he spoke to Mary and states she would carry the Messiah and our SALVATION is secured through God’s son; how could he appear to Mohammed in 609CE?
The story should not have changed.
The God of Abraham and his tribes was a monotheistic God. This God continues to be Adonai, the God of the Jews. That would make Him our God who sent His son, Jesus so we could on e, again be in a close relationship with God, our Father.
The Muslims think we have 3gods. I’VE EXPLAINED THE SHAMROCK. I explained you and I are someone’s daughter, someone’s spouse, and thirdly parent. So, we are one person who have to perform different roles depending on with whom we ARE present. Another issue is Jesus is only a prophet born of a virgin. (documented by the midwife Joseph found) How many prophets were born of virgins=NONE. So why Jesus.Another issue: Are there three heaven’s or seven heavens. Our God the Father, on His crowded throne with Jesus and the Holy Spirit, (sorry God for the joke) is in a third heaven where Islam’s God, Allah sits on a throne in t he seventh heven.
NOW,OUR HOLY SAINTS, who had apparitions of Jezus, MARY, Angels and Saints. Would require them to say the name of Jesus and throw Holy Water on them to ensure they were not demonic apparitions. The evil spirits can take on forms of Holy angels, Saints, Mary and Jesus…
I’m sleepy. The area was polytheistic, except for the Jews. Ohammed had a pull on him from some supernatural source. The Torah has sharia law in it. I asked our Rabbi, “Why did the Jews still not use sharia law?” He said that the Rabbis had a conference and decided that those laws were not given by God, but we’re patriarchal tribal rules that were not to be followed. .
One marries when the husband can provide for a family. Eventually, multiple wives weren’t needed as some people went into trade and merchandizing.
Someone got smart with beastiality with lambs, camels or whatevewhatever and stopped that practice. Sex with young boys, I just don’t know. I have a friend on this site who was Muslim? He is praying to God to help the people that beat him and raped him when he was little. Thank God that Marine got off for beating that pedophile to a pulp when he caght him in the act raping a 6yo. It is a sin to engage in beastiality and pediaphilia per the Quran but they just have to perform a ritual bath to clense them of their sins. See
SISTANI.ORG. He is the high Ayatollah of the Shites in Iraq, even though he is Iranian.
I thought it might help to get some of the history. My argument with Gabriel, and I have them with no answers back is, "WHY IS THE STORY DIFFERENT? "
in Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
