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I had disagreement with Protestants on certain issues, some of which I think I was right on (sola Scriptura) others I was misinformed in, till @JonNC, @gkmotley and their ilk set me straight.

I also had disagreement with political and religious liberals, though I don’t think it led to much exchange of ideas.

My biggest conflict was with those who promoted, explicitly or implicitly, that group of “Trad” websites, not affiliated with the Church, as if they were Catholic ministries. I think they sow a hermeneutics of suspicion, that undermines the Faith, but I don’t think I got that point across.

On the other hand, with SSPX supporters, I think there was some genuine exchange of information and ideas, I think I see and respect their POV somewhat, even if I don’t completely share it.
 
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I had disagreement with Protestants on certain issues, some of which I think I was right on (sola Scriptura) others I was misinformed in, till @JonNC, @gkmotley and their ilk set me straight.
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Ilk? Really? 😁

Seriously, I can’t remember your view on SS, but I know for a fact I learned so much about Catholicism here, from some very good Catholics, including you.
I’m so thankful for that.
 
I don’t want to go into great detail, as it’s just going to rile folks up, but here are the topics I was involved in that seemed to cause the biggest disagreements:
  1. Slavery (far and away the largest disagreements)
  2. The story of Lot
  3. Edgardo Mortara
  4. Counting as Catholics people who have explicitly left the Church
  5. The story of Jephthah
  6. The Olivet Discourse in terms of prophecy
  7. Mother Teresa
  8. The morality of non-believers (including but definitely not limited to Atheists in Foxholes)
  9. How and when to say a passage is not literal and what happens if a symbolic reading is still very problematic
  10. The possibility that the Godhead contains more than 3 persons
 
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The biggest issue of disagreement that I ever had was regarding the death penalty and desperate goal of Ender and one or two others to push a square peg into a round hole. Who knew that a common easily understood word like “inadmissible” would throw them all into a tailspin. 🤣
 
Any time someone says science and the Church are incompatible because Genesis. I’m a man of science. Can’t stand that stuff.
 
Other than disagreeing with various moderation decisions, the constant parade of people with “Mary problems” was most annoying to me.
 
Hmm… I think that I’d have to say “dialoguing with folks who think they’re the only ones in the world who are ‘rational’, and do it in a way that’s demonstrably irrational.”

I kinda always get sucked into those kinds of discussions…
 
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Tie:
(i) When may one fulfill an obligation to attend Mass for Sunday or Holy Day?
(And mostly: When is “evening”?)

(ii) What is required for a valid marriage?
(And mostly: Is it necessary to consummate the marriage?)

(iii) Do penitents have a right to anonymous confession?
(And mostly: No)
 
ooooh, and one more:

(iv) How many days long is Lent, and are Sundays part of it?
(And mostly: Forty~ish, and of course they are)
 
I probably got into arguments - intractable arguments - most frequently with people about ‘Muslims worship another god’ issues and on the morality of torture as an intelligence-gathering method, at least when I first joined the forums. This was in the 2000’s in the aftermath of 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq.
 
The loudest disagreements I’ve had in the 14 years I’ve been here have been over proselytisation - it used to get quite torrid at times 😬 especially with one poster who will be nameless because he’s no longer here to argue back (or spam the thread with post after post of copy and pastes which was the usual tactic).

Other than that the louder ones would include, Pius XII (I’m an agnostic, he was between a rock and a hard place), the Spanish Civil War, the idea that the NSDAP was a left-wing party, Edgardo Mortara (mentioned by @Mike_from_NJ above).

Not loud but perennial and entirely predictable: “Why don’t Jews believe in Jesus?” and associated proof texts.

My most monotonous response over the years: “Christianity isn’t Judaism plus Jesus and Judaism isn’t Christianity minus Jesus, they’re two entirely different religions.”
 
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This was pretty big for me:
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The Church teaches that women cannot be priests because of the example set by Jesus in selecting the apostles. So why are women allowed communion? Apologetics
Jesus selected only men as apostles. This is taken to indicate that he did not want women to be priests or bishops. He gave his body and blood only to men. Why does this not indicate that women should not receive communion?
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It’s funny really because Jewish posters, traditionally, take the (on the surface) friendlier route of going along with the Christian poster’s agenda - which always seems to end up with “Oh! Yes it Is/Oh! No it Isn’t!.” over proof texts.

I’ve not done that, I’ve gone with the “The NT is neither scripture nor reportage,” line which opens things up.
 
I’m rather minimalistic in terms of ‘belief’ but rather orthodox when it comes to ‘doing,’ I was the same as a girl and don’t expect to change now.
 
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My biggest conflict was with those who promoted, explicitly or implicitly, that group of “Trad” websites, not affiliated with the Church, as if they were Catholic ministries. I think they sow a hermeneutics of suspicion, that undermines the Faith, but I don’t think I got that point across.
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Politically, I am a paleolibertarian/paleoconservative/distributist/classical liberal (and if you don’t know what those words mean, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote, I went there), but, I think I agree.
I think there are some people that are so obsessed with the beauty of the Latin Mass (which I agree can be beautiful), that, they forget, that the Latin language has never been universal in the Church, and they adopt the position, that somehow, Latin is holy just by virtue of being the “language” of the Church.
Not bashing Latin, but Syriac (Aramaic), Greek, Latin, and even Church Slavonic ALL have a role in the Church’s liturgy and history.
 
Ongoing? The use of the term Protestant as a description of theology and practice.

A particular disagreement with a poster, Topper, who insisted on misrepresentation of Lutheran teachings.
 
Six+ years ago, I did a couple of lengthy posts on the Morata case, which were surprisingly (to me) well received. I don’t remember by whom.
 
Probably my biggest is anyone that starts out saying, “Atheists think…” and it’s not true for any atheists I know! Or atheists believe…atheists believe a whole variety of things…it’s as senseless as saying Brunettes believe…

Lower down on my list would be the accusations about people on the left…from being Marxist/Communists to wanting to destroy the country. Also, disagreeing with the President meant I hated him!

Wrong.
 
The death penalty and socialism/communism. Glad I won’t have to argue about those things anymore. 🙂
 
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