What would be the next doctrine to be proclaimed infallibly ex cathedra?

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About 20 years ago, there was a lay movement asking that the Church define the dogma that Our Lady is the Mediatrix of All Graces. I don’t know whether or not that was done.
 
Margaret_Ann said:
I think a firm proclamation may need to denounce millenialism in the future.
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They do indeed. TAN Books changed hands a few years ago and discontinued many of their titles (including those that called into question the Novus Ordo Missae and Vatican II), but they are still a valuable resource. I have this book packed away (along with all the rest of the TAN Books catalog 🙃 📚📚) somewhere in the house. We live in a very small bungalow and floor space is limited.

https://www.tanbooks.com/index.php/...nts-of-the-church-in-english-translation.html
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Male-only priesthood is already an infallible doctrine, because it has been believed by the whole church from the beginning.
 
I admit I’d really love to see your TAN library & catalog. Probably half my bookcase is the classic TAN Books.
 
I was fairly certain it wasn’t but hesitated to post it. Thanks for the confirmation.
 
Margaret_Ann said:
I admit I’d really love to see your TAN library & catalog. Probably half my bookcase is the classic TAN Books.
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I don’t have one of their old catalogs, at least if I do have one filed away somewhere, I’m not aware of it. As I said, our house is very small. When my son’s toys and other belongings began to become more abundant, something had to give. I have many of my belongings boxed up in storage here at home. I have made a tentative promise to myself to clear out some things, take them to Goodwill, etc., over Christmas homeschool break. The TAN books will not go to Goodwill.
 
HomeschoolDad said:
The TAN books will not go to Goodwill.
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I gave some of my TAN books to the Catholic community center at my alma mater some years ago. Now I wish I still had them because they covered a lot of things that people ask me re the Catholic Faith.

One fellow who used to belong to our parish (he & his family are now at another UGCC parish in the Archeparchy of Philadelphia) once worked for TAN Books. He is a great guy. (Now that I’m thinking about it, I should probably get back in touch with him and see how he’s doing.)
 
Margaret_Ann said:
About 20 years ago, there was a lay movement asking that the Church define the dogma that Our Lady is the Mediatrix of All Graces. I don’t know whether or not that was done.
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That was not done and nor is there any reason to do it.
 
Margaret_Ann said:
About 20 years ago, there was a lay movement asking that the Church define the dogma that Our Lady is the Mediatrix of All Graces. I don’t know whether or not that was done.
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This is still ongoing. Recently I picked up a card at church because it had a nice picture of Mary on the front. when i got home and read it, the title was “Worldwide Campaign of Prayer for a Fifth Marian Dogma” it was asking you to write to Pope Francis stating you “support the papal definition of Our Lady as Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate”
 
Xystus said:
About 20 years ago, there was a lay movement asking that the Church define the dogma that Our Lady is the Mediatrix of All Graces. I don’t know whether or not that was done.
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I’ve heard of this. Our Lady as MOAG may meet all of the requirements for dogmatic definition ex cathedra, but I might stop short of saying the Church should go that far. Needless to say, it would make ecumenical efforts with Christians who do not make as much use of Marian devotion as we do (and some not at all) that much more difficult. We have enough trouble as it is with the Immaculate Conception and Assumption (which is more of a historical fact than a doctrine) being proposed as mandatory dogma which must be believed by all Christians — not suggesting that these shouldn’t be ex cathedra infallible, just stating the fact.
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I never understood since two out of three Catholic Marian dogmas have been proclaimed “ex cathedra” via papal infallibility, why the third has not.
 
RaisedCatholic said:
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Defining, specifying the Canon of the New Testament, ex cathedra. It is set now by the ordinary Magisterium but is likely the next dangerous challenge in Christianity.
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Why not the OT too?
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Is there a need? Not sure.
The Church tends to define as much as necessary, and no more.

Things are only defined when a serious need, or challenge, at this time; when the good would outweigh negative consequences.

The vast majority of Christian doctrine is based on the New Testament, or that part of the Old Testament Catholics and Protestants have in common. There is no movement by heterodox persons to add books to the OT with an agenda.

So there’s less need to defend that part of the Bible. I would not be opposed to that, though. Most Protestants would join forces with us if we focus only on the NT canon (not that this is a reason for holding back on defining).
 
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he vast majority of Christian doctrine is based on the New Testament, or that part of the Old Testament Catholics and Protestants have in common. There is no movement by heterodox persons to add books to the OT with an agenda.
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Because I have heard from Catholic apologists that if there surfaced additional legitimate writings of the apostles (like say Paul), then they would on par with his other NT inspired writings. But I don’t mean apocryphal letters falsely attributed to him, but actual legitimate letters. And since the canon of the NT is a consideration for the reasons you mentioned, since the OT canon was a source of dispute, not only during the Reformation, but also in the early church (even the 4th & 5th century church councils did not agree on the exact same books), I would think “ex cathedra” would want to be extended to the OT canon as well.
 
RaisedCatholic said:
he vast majority of Christian doctrine is based on the New Testament, or that part of the Old Testament Catholics and Protestants have in common. There is no movement by heterodox persons to add books to the OT with an agenda.
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I think I recall reading once upon a time that having a canon of Scripture does not necessarily mean that other writings of the era aren’t divinely inspired, just that these are the only ones that the Church can definitely say are inspired. Has the Church ever said “these 72 books are the canon of Scripture, it is fixed for all time, and there will never be any additions to it, even if new books are discovered”?

If this were ever to happen, I have to think that some non-Catholic fundamentalists would invoke Revelation 22:18-19, “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (KJV) — even though this clearly refers only to the book of Revelation itself. They think that because these words are basically at the end of the Bible, they refer to the whole Bible.

They could also maintain that Almighty God would not allow His Word to be given to the world incomplete for 2000 years. That actually would make some sense.
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Margaret_Ann said:
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Defining, specifying the Canon of the New Testament, ex cathedra. It is set now by the ordinary Magisterium but is likely the next dangerous challenge in Christianity.
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The canon of Holy Scripture - OT & NT - was infallibly defined by the Councils of Carthage, Florence & Trent.
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Right. Especially Trent; this was the definitive definition.

Is there really any dogma that was defined ex cathedra that had already been defined by a Council on pain of anathema? I don’t think so? I think if a Council had already defined something A.S., no Pope had ever had to redefine it under his own extraordinary Magisterium.
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