What would happen if abortions suddenly became illegal?

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Lots of people would feel anger and resentment, especially against the Catholic Church, too many to just ignore. (Better let the media handle something like this.) And what if abortion worldwide would suddenly come to an end? What chaos would ensue? Social change like this takes planning. especially when the social pendulum is swinging in favor of abortions and women’s rights.
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Sadly, I don’t forsee anything like that happening any time soon so I would say not to worry about it…
 
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What would happen if abortions suddenly became illegal? Ring the Church bells! Kiss a baby! Call it VL Day for “Victory of Love!” :love::gopray2:
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Lots of people would feel anger and resentment, especially against the Catholic Church, too many to just ignore. That’s the case now anyway. And Jesus said his Church would be hated. 🤷(Better let the media handle something like this.)Yoy! They’d handle it alright. In my mind I see them fanning any spark of discontent into flame. I suppose there is “good media” too, which is probably what you meant.

And what if abortion worldwide would suddenly come to an end? What chaos would ensue?
The chaos came first and is going ON. Abortion is terrible. Not a good thing at all. On another front (while I have thoroughly enjoyed imagining that happy moment you’ve painted Robert Sock), cynical me thinks it probably won’t happen til the end of the world - and that THAT chaos will absorb many people and make them think about abortion less and less - and their eternal fate more and more.

Social change like this takes planning. especially when the social pendulum is swinging in favor of abortions and women’s rights. It’s good to plan for the most part. But when lives are in danger committee meetings become less prudent and could border on the idiotic. The babies saved would be worth the social unrest! Not to go wishing for social unrest of course.

This very sensible sounding statement could be (worst case) a justification to do nothing (or postpone the good we can do now) as a compromise with evil. It’s a little bit “Pontius Pilate” or too clever for its own good.

“Peace” is good for example - but “submitting to slavery” rather than fight in the name of peace is an error. It’s easier to rationalize compromises with evil when we ourselves are not the beneficiaries of moral stand.

You may be right about what might happen. But it should not dampen our desire for a just society and its fruits.

A society where young women take pride in being life givers - and not equal pride in being life takers – is a big step forward. A pregnant woman is a treasure chest - not a garbage can. And Doctors should heal and never destroy for a bribe.

There would be side effects as you point out - but if a society was good enough to wash the stink of abortion from itself - it would equally find ways to help women (and babies and men) in dire circumstances too. And it probably would not cop out to violence, selfishness, greed and destruction, either.

Let those Church bells ring! Babies are wonderful!

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHMKFBsvRGKlPzMyT2cbQBb7SeWCO3rhtJdeiA1yrF9lsk0q5- – not born yet in this picture … but a person as you can see. A person who might be saved if “abortions suddenly became illegal.” The suddenness would be " just sudden enough" to save some. Because many people would NOT pursue illegal abortions. 😦 Some still would of course.
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http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSvpnq5dRax5I_l8XfwzhYsZjUYbKnl3Bln4Lf4obKitrIhls7N - same person, different age. The smile on the right is due to the non-abortion of the person on the left. The law protects the life on the right (now). And it needs to. To consider the inverse hypothetical to that above - “What would happen if infanticide suddenly became legal?”

Would the “good people” defend life with the same zeal as you surmise the life-takers (who might act violently - if I have your concern right - might "defend their RIGHT" to abort someone)? Thanks for the thread, and the vision, and the warnings too I suppose, Robert Sock.
 
If abortion suddenly became illegal, I would personally ascribe it to divine intervention against decades of callous killing and would be thankful for the great miracle of it coming to an end, as I’m sure many of us here and in the universal church would. Presumably also if it happened, it would be preceded by a change in the attitudes of society that would make people more accepting of the change.

The best thing we can all do is to pray that this wonderful vision of a world without the horror of abortion will one day come true.
 
Abortions are already illegal in Islamic cultures. I suppose here in the US it’s more likely for Federal tax payer supported abortion mills to be denied financing …if we prayed hard enough.

As far as the consequences, I dunno, aside from feminist protests every action has a reaction.
 
Perhaps it would be the start of society accepting responsibility for its actions, instead of the moral ‘hit & run’ that has been promoted in recent decades!
 
What happened when alcohol became illegal?

It would certaionly create a black market.

But at least as a society we will have taken a stand.
 
Carolus_Martell said:
Abortions are already illegal in Islamic cultures.
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Generally there is an exception if the life of the mother is at stake. Some countries do allow for certain other circumstances.

It should be noted, though, that artificial birth control is permitted. That’s kind of interesting though, because it blows the whole “contraception leads to abortion” argument right out of the water. I’ve always argued it the lack of morals, not contraception, that leads to abortion. The Muslim example, given that they’ve contracepted for centuries, clearly demonstrates this is not the case.
 
And what about the biggest question of all—if it were illegal, what would be the PENALTY for it? And would it be uniform all over?
 
The penalty should be the same penalty as for murder, since that is what it is.
 
An answer to the question posed in the thread title might be found in Poland today.

Thirty years ago, abortion was available without restriction and it was very common. For example, in 1981 230,000 abortions took place. However, in 1993, abortion was effectively banned, largely due to pressure from the Catholic Church. Officially, only 300 abortions per year now occur in the country.

But the number of illegal abortions is high. And there seems to be growing resentment against the Catholic Church and its political influence.

Perhaps the experience of Poland offers lessons which can be learned from? The situation there might be worth studying.
 
Some people will always choose to break the law. Their punishment will encourage others to comply. But frankly, if an abortion ban saved even one life, it would be worthwhile. So even if only a reduction was achieved and not a complete end to this barbarism, that would still be a positive development.

As far as the church having political influence is concerned, if governments listened to the church more, there would be far less unjust laws made (e.g. the American HHS mandate, restrictions on religious freedom, abortion and a host of other issues). The separation of church and state was really where everything started to go wrong. As the Proverbs put it “Fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, but fools despise instruction and teaching”.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Lots of people would feel anger and resentment, especially against the Catholic Church, too many to just ignore. (Better let the media handle something like this.) And what if abortion worldwide would suddenly come to an end? What chaos would ensue? Social change like this takes planning. especially when the social pendulum is swinging in favor of abortions and women’s rights.
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How more chaos than there is now? Are we talking money? It could well be spent on helping people understand the real basics of how to handle their sexuality, and on helping those in the truly hard situations. The incidence of risk taking behavior would likely go down considerably, I think, since the thought “I/she can always have an abortion” would not figure so prominently.
 
colmywaykurtz said:
I’m not sure about that. Islamic attitudes toward abortion vary.
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This is true - I recall news reports at the time of the invasion of Iraq that women were having abortions on demand as they didn’t want to be pregnant / nursing when the invaders arrived! Also, since Islam denigates women, a woman who has girls already may be tempted, or forced, to abort a female in the hope of the next one being male! (not just Islam. Many Hindus do this too).
 
peter26 said:
The penalty should be the same penalty as for murder, since that is what it is.
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In most states, that would include the possibility of life imprisonment, for the woman and the doctor. In many states, it would include the possibility of the death penalty, for the woman and the doctor, also. Are you sure that’s what you’re meaning to say?
 
And with a repeal of ACA and the individual mandate to be insured who would pay? Ryan’s budget?

Three-fourths of women who have abortions say they cannot afford a child.

guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

If you don’t have health insurance, you should know that the average cost of prenatal care is about $2,000, if you’re paying out of pocket.
The charge for an uncomplicated cesarean section was about $15,800 in 2008, while an uncomplicated vaginal birth cost about $9,600

webmd.com/baby/features/cost-of-having-a-baby?page=3

A middle-income family may spend $234,900 to raise a child born in 2011 to the age of 18

investmentnews.com/article/20120614/FREE/120619948
 
The Affordable Care Act includes $250 million of support for vulnerable pregnant women and alternatives to abortion. This support will make abortions much less likely, since most abortions are economic.

Romney has endorsed Wisconsin Republican Paul Ryan’s budget, which will cut hundreds of millions of dollars out of the federal plans that support poor women. Reducing Medicaid would also reduce vital prenatal care to low-income pregnant women and make it hard to provide basic checkups and immunizations for all babies and children in low-income families. Already, many eligible poor mothers and children are excluded from Medicaid coverage in states with tight finances or ungenerous governments – and the Ryan plan would exclude more. The undoubted effect: The number of abortions in the United States will increase.
 
The point I am trying to make is that the issue of abortion is far more than the simplistic “Pro-life” “Pro-choice” frame. No one is actually pro-abortion. But some believe that criminalizing abortion is an ineffective way to solve the problem. If abortion suddenly became illegal, there would still be abortions. Young unwed women will still get pregnant because of young unwed men. Even if abortions were reduced, what about the costs? In this dream world of illegal abortions, is there a plan for prenatal, natal, and child healthcare?
 
Robert_Sock said:
Lots of people would feel anger and resentment, especially against the Catholic Church, too many to just ignore. (Better let the media handle something like this.) And what if abortion worldwide would suddenly come to an end? What chaos would ensue? Social change like this takes planning. especially when the social pendulum is swinging in favor of abortions and women’s rights.
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Hypothetically it could mean we advanced as a society to a point that abortion wasn’t practiced at all, so that the law was in place to deal with those that might actually kill an unborn child. In other words, the law didn’t end abortion. Abortion ended and a law was passed giving the unborn child the same rights as a born child. What a victory for civilized humanity!
 
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