What would Jesus have done?

[Roguish]

Jesus saw coming the ordeal of his capture, trial, torture, humiliation, and eventual execution, over the course of a few days. He chose to submit to this fate (“May it be done unto me according to Your will”), even though the human part of him wished it could be different (“Take this cup from me”).

But what would Jesus have done if, instead of the above, he had foreseen that he would would be perceived as a man with severe mental health problems (delusional, “Messiah complex”, hallucinating, etc.), that he would be submitted to forced hospitalization in a mental institution, to psychiatric evaluation, to forced lifelong treatment at the hands of “psychiatrists”, possibly including heavy medication and electroshock therapy, perhaps ending in a lobotomy and several decades spent in a vegetative state under the care of “nurses”, only to pass away in obscurity at the end of it all, unbeknownst to anyone? What, indeed, would He have done if that had been the prospect?

(EDIT: I’ve now recategorized this under “Non-Catholic Religions”, because an early reply suggested that this inquiry may be of an uncatholic nature.)

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Isn’t the question. “what would Jesus have done” a Protestant thing?

 

[Greenfields]

It is right that you refer to Jesus as He,therefore God .You have answered your own question.As God that would never have been a consideration.God bless.

 

[Roguish]

Isn’t the question. “what would Jesus have done” a Protestant thing?

Not sure. But I will recategorize this thread as “Non-Catholic”. Thanks.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Are you Catholic

 

[Sunflower98]

Jesus would have listened to His Father, regardless.

 

[Roguish]

Are you Catholic

Thanks for your question, but I’d rather not have responses (if any are forthcoming) tailored to whatever camp I claim or confirm to be in. What I can say is that I’m a religious man of firm faith who believes in the divinity and humanity of Christ. I hope that satisfies your inquiry somewhat.

 

[fhansen]

He would’ve been someone else- not the Savior of the world.

 

[Hereiam]

But what would Jesus have done

WWJD is problematic…if we know Christ, we know precisely what he would do.

The more important question, when asking WWJD in any given situation, is what SHOULD I do?

Pax et bonum!

 

[ShowersofRoses]

That would not have happened, because that was not God’s plan to save the world. He was not born in Bethlehem 2,000 years ago haphazardly. He chose to be born in that exact moment to fulfill His specific mission. I find your speculative question impossible to answer because it just would not, ever, have occurred. And the idea of Jesus being tortured in a psychiatric hospital is horrifying to me. He suffered so much…I don’t want to imagine Him in MORE suffering like that. It seems disrespectful and in very poor taste.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

It makes a huge difference in a person’s understanding, depending on your religion.

 

[Wannano]

Jesus saw coming the ordeal of his capture, trial, torture, humiliation, and eventual execution, over the course of a few days. He chose to submit to this fate (“May it be done unto me according to Your will”), even though the human part of him wished it could be different (“Take this cup from me”).

But what would Jesus have done if, instead of the above, he had foreseen that he would would be perceived as a man with severe mental health problems (delusional, “Messiah complex”, hallucinating, etc.), that he would be submitted to forced hospitalization in a mental institution, to psychiatric evaluation, to forced lifelong treatment at the hands of “psychiatrists”, possibly including heavy medication and electroshock therapy, perhaps ending in a lobotomy and several decades spent in a vegetative state under the care of “nurses”, only to pass away in obscurity at the end of it all, unbeknownst to anyone? What, indeed, would He have done if that had been the prospect?

(EDIT: I’ve now recategorized this under “Non-Catholic Religions”, because an early reply suggested that this inquiry may be of an uncatholic nature.)

It seems to me that Jesus did in fact forsee that He would be perceived as a man with severe mental health problems and delusional, and having a Messiah complex etc by some people.

 

[Edward_H]

Jesus wouldn’t have stopped short owing to the vanity of how He would be perceived.

In His own time, when he spoke the truth about the Eucharist, He witnessed people leaving him because what he said was too hard for them. He didn’t make any effort to change his tune.

Jesus knows that by doing the will of His Father - and by word and example encouraging us to do the same - He can obtain the GREATEST good, given our free will.

 

[Futaba]

That may be one of the reason why God send His Very Begotten Son at around 2000 years ago, not now.

 

[Roguish]

It seems to me that Jesus did in fact forsee that He would be perceived as a man with severe mental health problems and delusional, and having a Messiah complex etc by some people.

Certainly. But at the time there was/were no psychiatry, no “treatment”, no “mental hospitals”, no chemical drugs, etc. So my question was not so much about whether he would be concerned about being perceived as a crazy man per se – I’m confident that would not have bothered him much – but about the consequences of being perceived as such – consequences which are very different now from what they were then.

 

[Roguish]

Jesus wouldn’t have stopped short owing to the vanity of how He would be perceived.

True. But as I just wrote in response to Wannano’s post, my question was not so much about vanity; rather it was about the prospect of possibly endless psychiatric treatment and involuntary “hospitalization”.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Well he was perceived as a crazy man, people thought he was possessed, as with some watching John the Baptist wearing a camel skin or hair, and eating locusts, living in a desert, and preaching.

ESP when he confronted Herod about his upcoming wedding

 

[Roguish]

if we know Christ, we know precisely what he would do.

Thanks for your response, but you seem to be saying that we cannot quite know Christ. But as I see it, knowing Christ is the essence of Christianity. (E.g. “Remain in me, as I remain in you.”)

 

[Hereiam]

Thanks for your response, but you seem to be saying that we cannot quite know Christ. But as I see it, knowing Christ is the essence of Christianity. (E.g. “Remain in me, as I remain in you.”)

Im sorry, maybe i was unclear.

I agree by virtue of being Christians, we DO know Christ, and that with all his teachings from the Gospels, there never is the question of what he would do, so we need to be asking ourselves what should we do…and hopefully that is by following the teachings of Christ.

 

[Edward_H]

No. Jesus would have been able to save us from a crazy persons’ hospital too. He would have found or created a way to either use his life there until He died naturally or died at the hands of the handlers.

His love is always infinitely self-giving and infinitely creative, ever on the alert for a way to save us.