What would Mohammad say of the 21st century Muslim World?

[whiteknite]

whiteknite, if you are so worried about killing, abuse, rape, hatred, ecc, take the example of Jesus and put your feet in cold water

Stupid answer if i ever heard 1. Is that all you can say??
If thats the case then maybe saying nothing would be more fitting…

 

[inJESUS]

Stupid answer if i ever heard 1.

why are you angry?

Is that all you can say??

 

[morning_star777]

dear mr.inJESUS i think christians of western country should be aware&protest muslims.cuz muslims dream is capture the west&take west under sharia law using western democracy!(muslims birth rate is very high.so after 100 years they will passed christians&will be the largest religious group).wat do you think about it brothe injesus?

 

[whiteknite]

why are you angry?

 

[inJESUS]

good

My life is cool, Wife, 2 Kids, cat.

many blessings that some do not have…

Do you think that i like it when:

while am writing to you there are sunni and Shias being killed on the street and many children becoming orphans right now?

What you hate i hate but we cannot accuse God for all the misery going on yet not thank the same God for the blessing we have including our ability to discuss with each others right now knowing that on the street people are being killed or that many do not have the money to have internet or that some are actually blind and cannot use it.

this is why am telling you things are not as they are supposed to be because if all people follow what Jesus say, paradise will be here on earth.

 

[inJESUS]

dear mr.inJESUS i think christians of western country should be aware&protest muslims.cuz muslims dream is capture the west&take west under sharia law using western democracy!(muslims birth rate is very high.so after 100 years they will passed christians&will be the largest religious group).wat do you think about it brothe injesus?

Islam is not simply a religion but a political ideology . Yes Muslims wish/want to make this planet an Islamic place and they do it whenever they can. People living in the Middle East know this very well. But we know as well that our fathers were being fed to lions as well as being fiercly persecuted and the gates of hell could not, cannot and will not prevail .

 

[Reuben_J]

the caliphate is a form of dictatorship. anyway what you said is a curious thing, do you have a source for it?

My take is that the Muslims will never revert back to the so-called four caliphates. They are so fragmented that they are practically tearing at each other flesh. The ideology that Mohammad brought, other that the uninamous desire to subjugate the world through the propagation of Islam, is causing too much disunity. There are no two Islamic nations today that can actually agree in about everything, the reason why, IMHO, that they could not overcome tiny Israel, American support notwithstanding. Come to think of it, it’s really amazing because in reality Mohammad brought much more confusion than unity to his followers.

I have never been impressed by the golden age of the four caliphates. Many Muslims would speak of them as an Islamic utopia but I don’t see much perfection there. There were palace intrigues, treachery and just old politic. If they were all that Islam could show for, I think there were certainly other impressive historical figures in history that brought goodness to their nations. My one example would be the emperor Kublai Khan.

I think today we can count the Ayotollahs in Iran and perhaps Osama BenLaden as the modern caliphs. Sure they will not agree with you much so among themselves. The Ayatollah is Shiite and BenLaden being Sunni.

In the nutshell, at most the four caliphates were just mediocre and certainly there were just as many impressive historical governments which were not Islamic. Islam and Mohammad just don’t prove anything to me.

 

[whiteknite]

Wasnt Bin Laden Assassinated a while back??

 

[Reuben_J]

Wasnt Bin Laden Assassinated a while back??

Hi there.

There is no proof that he is still alive except for some videotape statements and old pictures purported to be of him. Even if he’s alive he very much in the hiding. Well, so much for the caliph! I’m only kidding. The Islamic caliph thing strikes me and despite Muslims speaking longingly of that era, there is nothing much to shout about actually.

 

[planten]

Islam is not simply a religion but a political ideology . Yes Muslims wish/want to make this planet an Islamic place and they do it whenever they can. People living in the Middle East know this very well. But we know as well that our fathers were being fed to lions as well as being fiercly persecuted and the gates of hell could not, cannot and will not prevail .

**Dear in JESUS, it is not like that. The present day Muslims are like people of other religions. They are not peaceful. So they are not Muslims if they believe in violence and killing.

But you support the militant Muslims by saying that Islam teaches it. Far from it. Islam teaches the same peaceful life as was taught by Jesus. Islam is not political. It is spiritual only in the first place and no politics. That is if every one lets every one live peacefully and no oppression and no compulsion, then islam will never stop you from ruling any place. You can be the ruler and your children can be the rulers.

But are you ready to let every one live peacefully? Are you ready to let every one believe and worship their God the way they like without oppression and compulsion. If you do then that is what is required by islam.

Islam has no enmity with christianity. In the very early time when the Muslims were being persecuted by pagans of Makkah, the prophet told his friends to go to Ethiopia (a christian kingdom) for refuge. The christian king there was very helpful. He provided security to the early Muslims in a very good way.**